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[Bill from NH]

Tony, it's only a matter of time before he comes back. He's said once before that he was quitting slots to devote more time to his other hobbies.

[swodem]

Tony, it's only a matter of time before he comes back. He's said once before that he was quitting slots to devote more time to his other hobbies.

Seems a common reaction to a small problems that don’t go people’s ways.

Should just shrug it off and go ‘bugger!’

https://youtu.be/cbBx4Ql6Umo



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[havlicek]

Some more "venting". Lol

http://slotblog.net/...ck/#entry728615

"The hobby is done......Mark Conner".

Like I said...I'm an optimist, maybe a wild-eyed optimist...maybe even an optimist who needs an optometrist. 

[Racer36]

I think one of his other hobbies may be ripping the wings off of houseflies. Seems like an angry fella.

[gc4895]

When looking for reliability and durability, I recommend BOWL.com

[Bazzie]

I am not belittling the feeling one gets when this sort of thing happens, I’ve had a few such moments with this hobby. I agree that good customer service is super-important, but at the same time, there are different ways of handling these grey areas. From both track owner and customer side, and this is why I like that ad Steve (brilliant, had a good ). And that’s all about attitude. Whenever doubt can be raised and defect can’t be proven outright, you’re at the mercy of the supplier. Then best you don’t antagonise him with an arrogant attitude. Every time this sort of thing happened to me with fk motors, both I and our local supplier went ‘bugger’ or something to that effect. I still buy from him

I was on the extreme short end of a case like this years ago when I bought a used Jeep, 96k km on, diesel and a badly designed motor, which I only discovered later. It wasn’t the Merc diesel. 13k km later my independent mechanic told me after a service that it had a diesel knock, and that it would leave me car-less at some point. I had the dealer do a compression test before I bought the car (mistake #1, never trust a 2nd hand car dealer, not saying there aren’t honest ones...), results of course looked great.

So the mechanic sent the car for another compression test and one piston didn’t register (<10bar), 1 ok-ish, one very bad and with one they could not get the injector out at all. So this put a large ? over the dealer’s test. Obviously fake... I of course challenged the dealer on this and they just took a stance of - we don’t have control over the diesel quality you buy, one tank with a little water in could have ruined the motor. They had some lame explanation for the rusty injector.

So I decided it prudent to replace the motor. In SA you can’t afford to get stranded roadside, good chance of getting killed. I had a mechanical breakdown insurance policy which pretty much proved worthless. So short story, it cost me $7k, of which insurance paid $200. The dealership had to make a special tool and it took them all up 3days to remove that 4th injector...

It turns out that all those motors come off the line with a built-in diesel knock, they ping around 1700-1900 rpm, where most people drive diesels as they produce most torque there. The brand new motor also had the knock. At higher speeds it gets out of the rpm range.

So lesson #2, buy German or Japanese cars and stick with petrol.

So today, in the interest of not shortening my life, I sometimes just say ‘bugger’



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[raisin27]

My suggestion would be for the track owner to explain that if there is any warranty it is from the manufacturer not the dealer. Then give the customer all the information he needs to contact said manufacturer and offer to back him up if need be with that manufacturer.

This would make the customer feel the track supports him and if the manufacturer chooses to help said racer or chooses not too the customer will at least feel the track owner had his back.

[Greg Erskine]

Hi guys,

 

I know we are mainly older gentlemen here, probably with traditional views, but I think we need to take the modern approach and ask whether Mark is OK. Are there any of Mark's mates here that can drop by for a face to face chat?

 

regards

Greg

[gatormark]

Mark is not pissed at the track owner,its obvious the the guy at JK does not back his product,period. I don't blame the track owner for that right? And yes I wanted to get back in to slots a bit during the hot summer months so I thought I would go to my local track buy a few motors,freshen up a few cars and enjoy the experience. So tell me? how are these Pheonix motors Im hearing about?

[gatormark]

Like I said...I'm an optimist, maybe a wild-eyed optimist...maybe even an optimist who needs an optometrist. 
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Except for a few, its is done hoss. You ask 20 people on the street what a slotcar is and the answer would be.....................................silence.

[swodem]

Like I said...I'm an optimist, maybe a wild-eyed optimist...maybe even an optimist who needs an optometrist. 
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Except for a few, its is done hoss. You ask 20 people on the street what a slotcar is and the answer would be.....................................silence.

Does that mean anything?

You could say the same about many niche hobbies or sports

Hell you guys in the US are just discovering Rugby!!




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[Phil Beukema]

     

[MattD]

What's a rugby?   What scale are they?

[Fast Freddie]

Rugby, I think he's talking about "metric football" or was that soccer?

[Phil Beukema]

 

 

[swodem]

Rugby, I think he's talking about "metric football" or was that soccer?

Rugby
It’s like NFL, without the armour, time-outs or throwing
Just 80minutes of running, tackling and repeat...on real grass.

Check it out





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[Zippity]

Rugby - noun - a game for real men

 

 

[gatormark]

I played rugby in the late 70,s with some of the UM players in S Fla, great game.

[John Streisguth]

When a thread lasts longer than the motor being discussed...

[swodem]

When a thread lasts longer than the motor being discussed...

You should be in Stand-up!!


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[gatormark]

Lets scrum

[A. J. Hoyt]

I had not seen this thread before. I think I understand the issue. A guy buys a motor not knowing how long it will last. It goes up in smoke very early. That's one end of the "Bell Curve" - the unlucky end. He feels humiliated - on a certain level.

 

I remember having a Hawk 7 motor still in the package in my box and the track owner did not have any on the pegboard. One of the top racers needed a new motor (did not have any and expected the track owner to have them when he got there, I guess).

 

I offered him my motor in the package thinking it may or may not be a "good one" and just asked that he replace it with a new one in the package when the track owner gets more in. It's always a roll of the dice with cheap motors ...

 

He puts it in his car with no break-in at all and joins the race. He fell about 5 laps back during the first heat while it was breaking in, about 3 more during the next heat, kept pace during the third and started putting two laps on the field each heat thereafter.

 

He beat me by a lap at the end with the fastest car (by far) on the track. That is a different kind of humiliation at the other end of the "Bell Curve". That's part of the fun of cheap motors.

 

Still, I would do it again for another racer - just never again for THAT racer!     Yeah, I would probably do it for that guy, too. It's all about the fun. Nice guys don't finish last - they just finish a gratingly humiliated second.

[Half Fast]

It takes leather balls to play Rugby  

 

Cheers

[JR10]

I had the same situation last week, I didnt even do one hard lap and the motor blew. The first thing that came to my mind is ok grab a new motor. I put a new one in and went racing!

[Bazzie]

That’s the spirit!