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[NSwanberg]

"We are not running Turboflex's anymore but is the racing any better or is there more people to race with?"

 

Will there be more people to race with is the question we should consider with every slot car racing program, policy and rule.

 

My kids are going to throw away a lot of stuff.

[Half Fast]

 

Will there be more people to race with is the question we should consider with every slot car racing program, policy and rule.

 

 

Abso-freaking-lutely

 

Cheers
 

[MSwiss]

It's not about me being competitive, I have very limited talent. 

It's about the body that is wider than the rules and is a tick faster so either get it or get out.

It's about the guide that weighs more and might be a tick faster so either get it or get out.

It's about the pan that is a gram lighter so either get it or get out. 

All these things add up to make it harder to get anyone started. 

All these things add up to make the car a little more fragile. 

All these things add up literally to make it cost more for the beginner. 

All these things add up to make it easier for someone to say NO instead of YES.

I see more people getting out than getting in.

But please send as much money as you like. 

 

 

Rob,

1-No one is stopping a raceway from requiring a spec car to be raced.

 

2-Were racers allowed to use .005" bodies when GL ISRA was running in area?
 

Rob,

Still waiting for an answer on my .005" body question.

 

Did you leave it off your laundry list of complaints, because it would make you look like a hypocrite, because you allowed them when you were in charge of GL ISRA?

 

PS- and how does a weighted car make a car a little more fragile?

 

It helps keep it in the slot, and off of the wall, so it's helping the car's durability.

[Ecurie Martini]

 

 

 

 

 

PS- and how does a weighted car make a car a little more fragile?

 

It helps keep it in the slot, and off of the wall, so it's helping the car's durability.

 

This is one of those "it depends" questions.  When a car hits the wall, its kinetic energy, mass X velocity squared, must be absorbed - mostly by the car, not the wall.If a heavier car "sticks" better, it will be going faster thus, in case of a de-slot, both factors being greater, more energy is involved.

 

EM

[MSwiss]

I won't disagree with the above statement.

 

My point was to lump in a weighted guide, with an aluminum pan, for diminished durability, is flat-out, incorrect.

[Pappy]

Swiss,

 

I'm a little confused here. In your post #45 you say "Rob,

I, and the other 4 members of the IRRA BOD agree about the importance of stability.

 

That's why we have weight minimums."

 

But then in your post #53 you say "PS- and how does a weighted car make a car a little more fragile?

 

It helps keep it in the slot, and off of the wall, so it's helping the car's durability."

 

So why would the board make a minimum weight rule when a weighted car helps keep it in the slot and off the wall? Why not let the racers make their car as light as they want to if it's only hurting them. 

[MSwiss]

Because it's not only hurting them, it's hurting others in the race.

[Rob Voska]

Rob,

1-No one is stopping a raceway from requiring a spec car to be raced.

 

2-Were racers allowed to use .005" bodies when GL ISRA was running in this area?
 

 

1. "Wouldn't it be nice if (Beach Boys)" ALL the tracks ran the same spec beginning car so it would be easier to get new people involved? 

2. Um yes??????????????  Don't really understand the question.  .005 body's are not bad if you don't crash much but if you do you pay the price.  I was getting quite a few races out of a .005 - .007 body.

 

"More fragile" was meant by the aluminum pans allowed in beginner classes where they need a strong car that takes a hit and is more dependable.  I spend more time helping people having trouble establish a baseline with what they have and getting it flat and assembled properly than anything else.

[MSwiss]

Rob, you're talking about gearing the rules towards a beginner, but yet you allowed .005" bodies, and then you are justifying them by adding "if you don't crash much", and use yourself, a non-beginner as an example. LOL

 

You're complaining about a guide, for $2.50 more, you get better handling, and for an additional $2.00 you get more post protection, in the case of a wreck.

 

For $4.50 you get better handling, and a better chance of surviving a major wreck, but in your mind, somehow, you think this is a negative for the beginner , and you try to lump it in with aluminum pans.

[Rob Voska]

Great lakes ISRA was NOT a beginners series. 

[MSwiss]

Rob,

And like I said, a raceway owner can designate how simple a beginners class can be.

 

Just like I only allow JK all steel  C7 and C21 chassis in my Wednesday night.

 

I don't see the benefit of an aluminum panned, $41 chassis, for that group of racers, so I don't allow it.

 

Very simple.

 

Go back and read your post #36.

 

You implied that I shouldn't of come up with, and/or marketed weighted guides.

 

Yeah, Dominykas Budrys running my $8 guide in his $700 1/32 F1 car, with his $1,000 controller is bringing around the downfall of slot racing.

 

When you go to Europe, to race ISRA, do you make comments like you did, in post 36, to the European hi-end controller makers?