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#26 Joe Mig

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Posted 27 December 2021 - 03:11 AM

That's a pretty interesting nose piece. I'd imagine that's why you could pin it for the back, it looks like the pin tube is solid to the pan. Nice design.

I have pinned mine behind the hinge but I made a front plate that goes further down on the sides allowing for it & they run fine my little Opel GT has been the most consistent at our races lately.

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Posted 27 December 2021 - 12:09 PM

The year-and-a-half since I've had my dragstrip running has been very interesting.

No bars, are obviously a challenge.

The perception that the car always need some sort of hinge is obviously incorrect because of the success of the Mossetti non-hinged chassis.

I think the body mount location is more important .

I had a local racer who bought a Mossetti for a friend, as a retirement gift.

Dominic, the recipient, is an exceptional builder ,but not really experienced running cars on the track.

When he brought in the car, with a Duster hardbody on it, and one of my Stage 5 motors, it ran awful, struggling to beat a 1.2 second time.

After trying to help him a little bit, the light bulb went on, and I realized that he had the thing pinned like a bar car.

The reason was because the Duster body had very little material in front of the front wheel well.

I insisted that it wasn't going to work how he had it, and on the spot he fabricated a front mount to get into the small area behind the front bumper and wheel well.

It immediately went from a 12-second car to a 1050 car.

That was enough to convince me.
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#28 Cap Henry

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Posted 27 December 2021 - 01:37 PM

I agree with the body mounting being very important and the hinge not being necessary Mike. Ive seen a lot of cars just built as hard tails with just a single wire per side and they run just fine.
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Posted 27 December 2021 - 08:56 PM

Hi Mike, some great info. Okay so I can definitely understand as far up. But you still really need two mounting points. So I would think the second one if a call with a hinge would probably still be right over the hinge. Thanks for the info.
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Posted 27 December 2021 - 09:03 PM

I will test the body mounts out I have a no bar pinned behind the front wheels & in front of rears I have made a mount in front of the front wheels & will test all positions to see how much difference it makes & let you know.


I ran no hinge cars first up at my local track & even though I would Top et most of the time I was getting beaten by hinge cars.
I built my design hinge cars & have been more consistent besides dominating the field the last couple of times we ran them.

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Posted 27 December 2021 - 09:26 PM

Hi Mike, some great info. Okay so I can definitely understand as far up. But you still really need two mounting points. So I would think the second one if a call with a hinge would probably still be right over the hinge. Thanks for the info.

I bought a fox body mustang cheap.

 

It has a hardtail chassis, with just a front body mount.

 

It used foam to keep the body off of the rear tires.

 

The body flipped over in the shutdown until I fashioned a loop with strapping tape, to sort of keep it in place.

 

It ran 1.030 with a Stage 2, my slowest motor.


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Posted 28 December 2021 - 12:08 AM

It looks like the mossetti chassis works the same way as a hinge chassis anyway.

If you pinned it off the chassis running to the rear end you would have issues but if the front pan kept running down the sills like my chassis I don't think it would make a difference if it was pinned between the wheels like some bar cars or pinned in front & behind the front wheels.

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Posted 28 December 2021 - 04:14 PM

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Posted 30 December 2021 - 12:44 AM

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Posted 10 January 2022 - 05:53 AM

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Posted 10 January 2022 - 01:43 PM

Nice builds Cap--- hanging the body off the front of the chassis really helps?    And what does the "slip joint" style of chassis do for you?

I see your flat tops on the front tires!  I did that too --lowers the body on the chassis.  But the racers out here demand the tires turn--even if they don't have to touch the track!!


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Posted 10 January 2022 - 01:52 PM

Body Mounting) with the slip joint cars the back body mount is in the middle, so logistically the next easiest spot is in front of the front wheels. That car theyre slightly off the chassis to make sure I ended up in the good meaty part of the body

Slip Joint) just help the cars make traction, I believe. I by no means thought of it, just saw others do it, so I followed suit. My hard tail cars seem run equally well.

Flat Tires) out here it isnt a rule the tires have to turn, and they dont touch. I like the bigger tires whenever possible because I think they look better, but its hard to get the stance I like without flattening them.
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Posted 22 January 2022 - 11:57 AM

nice builds... but you need to work on pinless body mounting. Nice looking builds...



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Posted 22 January 2022 - 12:29 PM

Thank you Dave. I honestly dont think Ill mess with pinless mounting. If someone has to have it I will, but Im not really a huge fan. With the way I do it now the body kinda floats and has some give, with every no pin car Ive seen the body is pretty solid.
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Posted 24 January 2022 - 11:21 PM

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Posted 25 January 2022 - 11:27 AM

Very nice cap--- you can see from my avatar--i'm partial to 55 chevies!!  


She's real fine, my 409!!!

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Posted 26 January 2022 - 07:47 AM

Thank you Tim, I built that car to sell and it has a new home already, but I have another one Im slowly working on for me.
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Posted 26 January 2022 - 07:50 AM

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New Camaro, Sweitzer body, Mid America Chassis Kit, Mid-America Win-Lite Wheels, Chicagoland Front Pin Tube Mounts. Windows got glued in after the photos. This car has a new home


Congrats to Dan Laycock on winning the True Stock heads up class at Innovative Slots in Indiana using this car. Dan had to change the motor and rear tires to meet the rules.
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Posted 26 January 2022 - 07:56 AM

Love the rust bucket paint job. How long did it take. 


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Posted 26 January 2022 - 07:59 AM

I cant take credit for that, a gentleman named Chad Sweitzer did it

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Posted 26 January 2022 - 09:30 AM

Love the rust bucket paint job. How long did it take.

Eddie,
Whenever I see a drag racer with a cool barnfind car in their box, it's usually the work of Dennis Sentman.

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Posted 26 January 2022 - 10:49 PM

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Posted 27 January 2022 - 11:22 PM

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