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#1 Wannabe80

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Posted 27 July 2026 - 01:18 AM

Hi,

 

I was gifted this car a few months back as my first car after getting back into slot cars, and I cleaned it up as best I could and got it running.

 

It runs quite well for the age of it. Thinking if it is worth it I might rebuild it and keep it as a spare as i use my brushless cars mainly now.

 

However I tried to do a search and couldn't find exactly the same.

 

Thinking maybe it is a hybrid possibly, it has Mura 20 on the sticker inside the motor on the windings.

 

Also the chassis I think is a Flexi Kar Mk 1 chassis possibly.

 

Thank you for your help in advance.

 

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I'm a mid 40 year old renewed slot car newbie.

 

Damian Jackson is my name and I'm from Australia





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Posted 27 July 2026 - 05:30 AM

Well, that sure looks like an original Parma Flexi-Kar chassis to me.  :)

 

Not 100% sure of the actual year era of the motor can... but pretty sure it's a Mura (the endbell most definitely is)
Armature 'tag' is odd though... I have Never seen one marked as "Mura 20."

It could probably use a commutator true and very possibly a light stack grind and re-balance, along with new brushes, springs, and maybe some shunts, etc.  :)


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Posted 27 July 2026 - 05:51 AM

Parma Flexi-Kar


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Posted 27 July 2026 - 06:23 AM

This Mura C-can replaced the Mura two-round hole "Green" can.


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Posted 27 July 2026 - 07:10 AM

Back in the early '90's we raced GP20 every week at Fishkill Raceway. The arms always said MURA 20 on them. It was an outlaw class and was similar to GP12 but with the different arm. :) Guess who won every race? LOL 


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Posted 27 July 2026 - 07:12 AM

It certainly was not me!


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Posted 27 July 2026 - 07:28 AM

The arms always said MURA 20 on them.

 

I'm pretty sure every Group 20 arm I have says NCC 20 or similar.  :)


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Posted 27 July 2026 - 08:49 AM

 

I'm pretty sure every Group 20 arm I have says NCC 20 or similar.  :)

 

 It was probably not made by Mura.


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Posted 27 July 2026 - 02:07 PM

Paul Ciccarello & Mike Muir both raced at Fishkill before they worked for Parma.


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Posted 27 July 2026 - 03:26 PM

This Mura can design arrived very late 80's or early 90's. I remember them from the early 90's and later. There was another Mura can between this one and the 2-hole can that had smaller rectangular holes at each end with 2 slots in the middle. This is an earlier endbell before double-overhead brush springs and is also about 1/8" longer than the double-overhead endbell. If memory serves me, not all Mura arm tags had their brand identified, but later 15 and 20 arms did. I've never seen a Mura C-can arm identified as "NCC". Motors at the time of NCC were 16D, though 16D and C-can arms are similar dimensions and sometimes interchangeable especially with the pre-double-overhead springs longer endbell which is the same length as a 16D endbell.

 

I still have a Mura G27 arm from 1980 as well as several other Mura arms from the 80's. These have survived quite well with only general cleaning and service and still run well without ever having been reconditioned (trued and balanced). From observation, Mura didn't keep up with the USRA minimum stack lengths as did ProSlot, Camen, and Koford, and I haven't found a single one of my Mura C-can arms that was built to the minimum stack length. My shortest G20 arm has a .460 stack while others range in length up to .495 and would never be competitive with a .440 stack arm. G15 arms are similar. The USRA minimum length for a G12 arm is .350, and my Mura 12 arms run .375 to .390 and again aren't competitive to another brand arm.

 

The chassis is most certainly the original Parma Flexi as already identified. Parma delivered the Flexi with 16D motors, so a C-can is not an production issue, though many local and regional racing classes used other motors in combo with the Flexi chassis.


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Posted 27 July 2026 - 07:21 PM

Mura's Gp. 20 arms were tagged for 1969-70. I have a couple of the originals. My GP.20 kit came from REHCO.

 

I forgot about the C-can with two square holes & two slots in the middle. I always heard that referred to as the Trinity can & thought their use was limited. There was also a Champion C-can stamped by Mura, very similar to the Trinity design. I'd have to look, but I think those had different shaped two holes with one slot in the middle. I got mine off eBay, so have no idea how old they are. In the 70s & 80s all my wing car setups used the Champion magnets & formed C-cans. I still have one unbuilt.


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Posted 28 July 2026 - 12:42 AM

I've never seen a Mura C-can arm identified as "NCC"

Well,.. perhaps YOU Haven't, ... but I Have,... as I said, I have a bunch of them !!  :)  :D 

 

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I even have some Older 'Hand Wound' Grp20 arms', marked as NCC22, in fact I think perhaps the early Steube Group 20's were marked that way ??


 


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Posted 28 July 2026 - 06:54 AM

Yes, those "22" were illegal here as only machine wounds were allowed.


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Posted 28 July 2026 - 08:31 PM

Thank you all for your help on this one.

 

Thought i was correct with the chassis.

 

The motor was what threw me as there was no markings or stickers on the can, and was hard to find on with the same cutouts on it.

 

If i were to rebuild the motor, what would i need to search/buy in terms of brushes, springs etc etc for this motor.


I'm a mid 40 year old renewed slot car newbie.

 

Damian Jackson is my name and I'm from Australia


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Posted 29 July 2026 - 03:27 PM

My good friend Gordy Root(RIP) gave me a couple of complete NCC 20'S. Until I started participating on Slot Blog,I went by what Gordy had told me NCC meant. 🙄





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