Slightly less amateur Cox Chap resto attempt
#26
Posted 23 July 2024 - 05:20 PM
this shaping and sanding is one of those things you can go crazy on and be pulling your hair out making it perfect. At some point you have to just tell yourself its good enough and stop!
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#29
Posted 23 July 2024 - 08:26 PM
Instead of flames,why not show off your work with a "I need sunglasses" black paint job? Another white Chaperell? That's what the world needs. Just like I need another red Ferrari.
PS: the Tamiya putty is fickle. I'd rather be more specific than that but I don't want to be reprimanded. The white seems harder but it has less grip and,is harder to feather. The grey is hit or miss. One extra pass and"poof" it's gone. There was a green putty that worked very well. Can't for the life of me remember who made it.
Anyone know?
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#30
Posted 23 July 2024 - 11:04 PM
My starter for 10. Squadron?
But my search revealed the green is not sold anymore.
Did find some chat on model forums. e.g.
" I've used up the last of my Squadron Green putty and it looks like it's no longer available....I love that stuff. One thing I really like is that it "melts" and bonds so well with styrene....and it's green so I can see it. Does Tamiya white putty work the same way? I've had good luck in the past with tubes of Bondo glazing and spot putty.
I always liked Squadron, bonded well, sanded well...hated testors, it always seemed to dry too fast as I was working with it.
Looking for some input over the loss of an old friend."
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#31
Posted 24 July 2024 - 08:27 AM
Incredable work so far. I have seen pictures of the car with all the headlights blanked out for a day race. Probably in one of my Chaparral books or one of the Can-Am books by Pete Lyons.
Tamya putty suffers from a high shrink rate. You have to build it up in thin layers like the Bondo automotive spotting putty. DuPont makes a green spotting putty that I have always sworn is the same stuff as the Squadron green. You should still be able to get it at auto parts stores.
The Testors putty is nothing more than talc mixed with styrene glue. Too much shrinkage, too hard to sand.
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#32
Posted 24 July 2024 - 10:05 AM
Thank you sir. yeah thinking maybe just a black outline of two front lights would be easiest and look cool. and you seem to be correct with the tamiya putty it’s way better put on very thin.Incredable work so far. I have seen pictures of the car with all the headlights blanked out for a day race. Probably in one of my Chaparral books or one of the Can-Am books by Pete Lyons.
Tamya putty suffers from a high shrink rate. You have to build it up in thin layers like the Bondo automotive spotting putty. DuPont makes a green spotting putty that I have always sworn is the same stuff as the Squadron green. You should still be able to get it at auto parts stores.
The Testors putty is nothing more than talc mixed with styrene glue. Too much shrinkage, too hard to sand.
pretty much done with body work besides sanding whole body and cleaning up some glue where bottom rear edge of windshield attaches. Still not sure of a livery yet. I’d like somewhat of a rough interpretation of a chaparral of the period. might not do the brown/burgundy on the sides and either have it white or substitute at different color. almost want to do scallops on nose that was popular back then it seems.
#33
Posted 24 July 2024 - 10:12 AM
#34
Posted 24 July 2024 - 10:37 AM
I now only use Tamiya putty.
Mixed with lacquer thinner, can be applied in thin coats like thick paint. Keeps the sanding step to a minimum.
The lacque will remelt the putty, which can be used to your advantage.
Love watching this come together Mark. Maybe consider a fantasy Chaparral customer car.
#35
Posted 24 July 2024 - 11:35 AM
Yeah I’ve been thinning it with lacquer thinner the stuff is almost dry by the time you put it on the body straight out of the tube. that’s exactly what I was thinking was a privateer type car. i have tons of number waterslides and gumballs but none with black outline. I’m too cheap to want to buy more repop decals so might do just straight black numbers. Unless USRRC rules state you need the white gumball.I now only use Tamiya putty.
Mixed with lacquer thinner, can be applied in thin coats like thick paint. Keeps the sanding step to a minimum.
The lacque will remelt the putty, which can be used to your advantage.
Love watching this come together Mark. Maybe consider a fantasy Chaparral customer car.
#36
Posted 24 July 2024 - 12:58 PM
If you have one of these, you can stick an ultra fine line Sharpie in it, and with some practice, make the outline around the roundel.
Although flame jobs were more attractive to the hot rod set, some roundy-round boys got into scallps. No reason your privateer Chaparral can't have scallops.
Agajanian used them;
Others, too;
But the hot rodders had the most;
#37
Posted 24 July 2024 - 03:19 PM
#38
Posted 24 July 2024 - 03:42 PM
(profusely drooling)
#39
Posted 24 July 2024 - 03:53 PM
Maybe wrapped in bacon
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#40
Posted 24 July 2024 - 07:11 PM
Mark, have you thought of trying a liquid masking on the chrome parts that won't come unglued? There was a light yellow Chappy on Facebook a few days ago that looked real nice in the photos. It wasn't numbered but solid black would have looked great.
I intend to live forever! So far, so good.
#41
Posted 24 July 2024 - 09:50 PM
Mark, have you thought of trying a liquid masking on the chrome parts that won't come unglued? There was a light yellow Chappy on Facebook a few days ago that looked real nice in the photos. It wasn't numbered but solid black would have looked great.
i haven’t thought of liquid mask I’ve never used it before. I’m sure I can find a way to mask them the bigger problem is it’s going to mess up my paint spraying them being in the way.
#42
Posted 25 July 2024 - 08:59 AM
The round price stickers you can get at stationary stores make good masks for the roundels themselves. I've even used the small Slick 7 lane stickers. 1/2 inch dia. is probably the normal size you will need, although 5/8ths is better if you can find them. 3/4ths is probably the largest you will use.
The color doesn't matter since you will be painting over them.
#43
Posted 25 July 2024 - 09:02 AM
This may be a case of too many cooks here, but I would consider cutting the chrome parts out from the bottom, base and all.
Then they can be made to look like they are separate from the body( like the real car) glued to a new bigger base and glued from the underside once the new base is painted flat black, and ofcourse after the body is painted.
This way they are not in the way anymore and can be set lower for a more realistic look.
#44
Posted 25 July 2024 - 09:21 AM
I’ve considered doing this but I still can’t figure out exactly what i want to do yet.The round price stickers you can get at stationary stores make good masks for the roundels themselves. I've even used the small Slick 7 lane stickers. 1/2 inch dia. is probably the normal size you will need, although 5/8ths is better if you can find them. 3/4ths is probably the largest you will use.
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The color doesn't matter since you will be painting over them.
#45
Posted 25 July 2024 - 09:27 AM
i almost want to do this seems the only way to not destroy the parts. I’m kinda sick of doing body work at this point though and I’m looking to wrap this up soon. i also considered cutting the exhaust and injectors out and molding in the exhaust openings and making a scoop for the injector stack area since this is sorta a fantasy car. hmmm I’ll have to think about this the bent stacks really bug me and I know what gonna happen if I try to straighten them haha.This may be a case of too many cooks here, but I would consider cutting the chrome parts out from the bottom, base and all.
Then they can be made to look like they are separate from the body( like the real car) glued to a new bigger base and glued from the underside once the new base is painted flat black, and ofcourse after the body is painted.
#46
Posted 25 July 2024 - 09:52 AM
#47
Posted 25 July 2024 - 09:54 AM
#49
Posted 25 July 2024 - 11:29 PM
Look at it like this:
If you knew what you were doing, you might not do anything.
#50
Posted 26 July 2024 - 07:33 AM
i used to buy flared aluminum eyelets that made good intake stacks and used the long cone-shaped aluminum bristle holders off cheap little paintbrushes for exhausts.
when using colored dots to mask off front wheels on clear bodies, i found that they tended to bleed paint in around the edges so i had to be really careful and lightly fog on the fist couple shots almost dry. maybe the ones i used were just cheap and weren't sticky enough.
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