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[Jaeger Team]

...now I understand:
"The car sported a stunning shade of metallic purple called Passino Purple in honor of Jacques Passino, director of Ford Racing."

[dc-65x]

Here's the repop Lancer Ferrari Can Am interior and my current favorite driver's head, vintage Russkit:

 

 

It fits this body amazingly well:

 

 

Even though the Honker is a very low Can Am car, the scale version is tall enough to fit a full depth interior. 

With the shortened buss bars I can solder the lead wires on their sides and angled downward to fit under the interior without putting a sharp bend in them:

 

 

I'm hopeful this car is really going to come together:

 

 

 

 

 

[Dave Crevie]

I like that body. Much nicer than the one I am going to use. You can add a separate roll bar. And the driver/interior does look more to scale.

 

[dc-65x]

I'm not a fan of the molded in roll bars in the body or interior either Dave.  

 

Now seemed as good a time as any to make my roll bar from 1/16" aluminum rod. 

 

The body has deep molded in recesses where the roll bar has to fit so it had to be bent precisely. The third time bending one was a charm:

 

 

 

 

[Mark Onofri]

Billnh, you must know that I'm lmfao over the pronunciation(spelling) of "friend "
The way they say(spell) it hurts my ears (eyes)
Not sure if it's still practiced but auto manufacturers had region specific colours. For example, panther pink was penta magenta in Canada. Luxury models colours were almost always regional, especially Lincoln.

[Martin]

Love the 1.5" roll bar.  I was wondering if polished aluminum velocity stacks are in the budget? 

[Dave Crevie]

Rick; Perfect!

[dc-65x]

Thanks Dave  

 

Polished aluminum velocity stacks added to the bodies engine detail is my plan B for this project Martin. I'll see how things go with my current plan A.

[dc-65x]

I believe the Honker initially had an opening just large enough to clear the carburetors. Later that opening was enlarged greatly as shown below:

 

 

I struggle at the art of plastic model making but I wanted to do a bit more than just velocity stacks or even Weber carbs with stacks. I found some nice model engines on eBay.

 

I used the manifold and Weber's circled in red from this big block Chevy engine..............

 

 

.................and the block and heads from this small block Chevy engine:

 

 

Yes, I know, the Honker used a Ford Windsor engine but only the valve cover will be seen and I have a fix for them.

 

With the heads glued on the bottom of the block was sawed off:

 

 

Now I have an intake, heads with valve covers (with the Chevy emblem sanded off...   ) and a little tray made of Evergreen styrene bits to mount them under the body:

 

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This is "the look" (as my friend Rodney calls it) I'm going for:

 

 

It almost seems like the body was an afterthought that just got in the way of that glorious engine.......I love it.  

 

 

This is about as far as I'll be going but for you modelers out there, you can really get into detailing all the goodies the Honker's body work exposes.

 

[Dave Crevie]

That's taking it to the next level. Now, I would add the fuel lines and spark plug wires, but then, I'm a lunatic. 

[Eddie Fleming]

"I struggle at the art of plastic model making"

 

I only wish I struggled so much!   

[Larry Horner]

Seeing how much engine is sticking out got me thinking about an earlier comment that the car was underpowered. So I looked it up and found that the 377ci variant was producing over 550hp which seems more than adequate for a 1270lb car. But then I read that the 917/30 cars were making over 1500hp. CanAm cars were just insane...

 

Gorgeous work as always Rick! 

[Martin]

Now thats what I'm talking about        Nicely done Rick.

[dc-65x]

Thanks guys.  

 

Dave, I ordered some additional goodies for the engine. I don't want to say or show anything unless I can get these things installed correctly....which is indeed questionable.           

[Mark Onofri]

Dave, your not a lunatic, you just have to turn up the volume a lot higher when you play Vincebus Eruptum.
Sorry Dc65x,I couldn't resist.
You might want to proof read the last post. As if it's not going to be...what comes after perfect?

[SpeedyNH]

really? a 351 Windsor, 90° long-stroke Y-block?  i dearly loved the one i had in my '69 mustang.  

[John Luongo]

351 windsor was plenty for a street car. that 69 mustang would be a great fit. nice lines, good handling and brakes.

[Mark Onofri]

The ports on those heads (351c)are like nothing I've ever seen before on a production motor.

[Dave Crevie]

The aluminum block 427 was slated to go into the Honker, but never did. Years ago I asked Holman about why they didn't at least test it, and his response was that they knew the chassis couldn't handle it  The car was originally designed for a 3 litre Cosworth DFV motor, and to run in Europe. This is the car as it originally appeared;

 

 

They made it into an open cockpit car, and made a long list of modifications trying to make it a competitor for the American Can-Am series. Here it is, still with the Cosworth motor, and wings like everyone else was trying in Can-Am;

 

 

The big block eventually went into this car that Holman-Moody had previously designed and built from the ground up;

 

 

 

And Rick; I wouldn't loose any sleep over it. At this point, you have gone well beyond the limit expected in a slot car. 

[Martin]

I have been looking at that #34 for ever as I had a big poster in my family garage. 

 

Never knew it had anything to do with the Can Am Honker. Great Info Dave, thanks

[Dave Crevie]

Whether or not if the Honker and that car are the same chassis number is still being debated. There were a few cars built, under Ford project numbers P68 and P69. Ford gave one to Holman-Moody, and said make a Can-Am car out of it. They did their best, but the car was just built too light. It debuted at Bridgehampton in 1967, finished mid field. But it was a struggle after  that.

[gluebomb]

Really enjoy watching the scale stuff come together, all the little detail bits - this one is already stunning, will be beautiful in paint.
Could you maybe do a road test when it's done, give us a comparison to a straight up pro car from the era if possible ? Wondering how much is actually given up if you keep things on the scale side...
S.

[dc-65x]

Thanks Simon.

 

You said, "........give us a comparison to a straight up pro car from the era if possible?" An interesting idea and I started thinking about it.

 

I built a period "korrect" Pro car version of the Lancer Super Comp low and wide Honker. That "era" was early 1968 and here is my Steube inspired roller:

 

 

I might be wrong but I don't think comparing my scale anglewinder to the inline is what you had in mind. But it might be interesting "apples and oranges" comparison.

 

(Anyone wondering why I'm using an anglewinder in my scale 1968 inline era Honker body, please refer to post #1 in this thread)

 

When I read your idea I immediately thought of the early 70's "era".  The problem I'm having with that idea is finding a scale Can Am body to compare with the zillions of low and wide Pro car versions that were made.

 

 

[dc-65x]

To spruce up the engine a bit I found this really nicely made pre-wired distributor:

 

 

It's available with a variety of spark plug wire colors:

 

 

I drilled 8 holes under where the valve covers will be for the wires to fit into:

 

 

YIKES!

 

 

Once the intake is installed I can pull the wires the rest of the way down:

 

[Don Weaver]

Much more realistic than this and this car won't need any power from the track - it'll be able to run under its own power!! 

Don