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Posted 05 January 2009 - 03:30 PM

I can confirm that the Hussein exists, I had one in my hand at the weekend.

I was wondering who made them. The one I saw has just the front end of the underside remianing, but it is obvious that it was blow-molded.

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Posted 05 January 2009 - 04:11 PM

Cool! Thanks Dennis!
Now we need to find a good example for the museum's collection and find out if the Chaparral also existed... :)

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Posted 05 January 2009 - 04:16 PM

I have to confess father PDL. I actually had one of those Tarantula bodies on my Cox car for awhile. I am so ashamed!

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Posted 20 January 2009 - 03:06 AM

Cool! Thanks Dennis!
Now we need to find a good example for the museum's collection and find out if the Chaparral also existed... :)


I went digging and have all four 1/32 so I can confirm they exist Hussain, iso griffith, chaparral, and lola. Posted Image

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Posted 28 April 2009 - 05:27 AM

Hi all,

Just wondering am i right to assume this is a Du-bro Hussein?
supposedly 1:32? i find it to big to be 1:32 but that could be me :unsure:

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Posted 28 April 2009 - 08:56 AM

Could be a Select... detail is too crisp for a Du-Bro. :)

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Posted 28 April 2009 - 09:57 AM

Could be a Select... detail is too crisp for a Du-Bro. :)


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Gentlemen,
I did a bit of research in the LASCM vault and was able to put together the following list (I will post pictures later):

Select bodies were all sold with a Revell injected 3-piece driver, white plastic card for "cockpit" and mounting/painting instructions.

Select Innovations PO box 5, La Crescenta CA 91014
Same mailing address as VECO and Auto-Hobbies, PROVING the connection between Bill Sippel and Select

1/24 Scale
# 154 Chaparral 2D Nurburgring copy of Cox
# 155 Chaparral 2E w/ wing and tips
# 157 Lola T70 MKIIIB coupe
# 158 Chaparral 2Fcoupe

1/32 Scale
# 101 Ferrari 330P3
# 104 McLaren MK2
# 106 Chaparral 2D Daytona
# 107 Chaparral 2D Le Mans 1966
# 108 Lola T70 MK2 sports
# 109 Lotus 40 sports
# 110 Porsche 906 "Carrera 6" coupe
# 111 Shelby Cobra 427P roadster
# 113 Ford "J" coupe
# 115 Chaparral 2E w/ wing
# 116 PAM-Chevy Group 7
# 117 Lola MK3 coupe
# 118 Chaparral 2F coupe
# 119 Elfin 400 Group 7
# 120 Ford MK4 coupe
# 121 McLaren MK3 w/ wing
# 122 '68 Camaro copy of Revell?
# 123 Mustang fastback modified (Mach 1 or Shelby)

Unknown numbers for loose bodies in the museum:

McLaren MK6
Pontiac Firebird
California Sportsman
Chaparral 2 1965 Riverside w/fins and louvers.
BRM H16

Any help to obtain more information about the missing numbers is greatly welcome.
Regards,

Philippe


So, this is not a Select body.

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Posted 28 April 2009 - 10:07 AM

Thanks Philippe,

I originally thought it was a lancer, and it says the Du-bro is 1:32.
while the body i have is more in the region of 1:24 unless the Hussein was a really big race car in 1:1.

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Posted 28 April 2009 - 10:08 AM

Hmm, Jaak, if it's 1/24 that would make the wheelbase around 10 cm, if I'm calculating right (3-3/4"+).

Besides the Detail Hussein, the only other one I know is a nice Lancer job in 1/24... Not at home right now to check, but you should be able to figure out from wheelbase if it's 1/32 or 1/24. (1/32 would be more like 7.5 - 8 cm)

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Posted 28 April 2009 - 10:24 AM

I have a decent-looking 1/24 Hussein clear butyrate body which has the round air intake moulded into the cockpit area, presumably so that you can cut it out and choose whether or not to mount it on the rear deck.
Any suggestions who may have produced it?

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Posted 28 April 2009 - 10:30 AM

Hey Dennis,

I missed your post, thanks for the reply.
Now i know it is not a select or Du-bro.


Hi Don,

Mine is somewhere between Switzerland and Howmet :D
So maybe Howmet can measure it.

Howmet,

That again sounds like another model then mine, although mine is also from butyrate i think.
You will see when it arrives at you place.

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Posted 28 April 2009 - 11:38 AM

So, this is not a Select body.

Note that there are missing numbers there... that is why I was asking for help. We have had more numbers since and have been able to find more bodies.

Now if it is not a 1/32 scale body and really a 1/24th, there are several possibilities. Lancer, Du-Bro, Pactra, Precision, Climax, plus possible British issues by GT Models, Titan...???
I am not able to check for this for at least a week because the best is to compare to what we have at the LASCM.

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Posted 28 April 2009 - 12:17 PM

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Check the flanges on the sides. If they are designed to be folded under the body with, usually, molded in marks. this might be a late Sipple body. That tuck under flange was designed because bill and Schliecher at the time (and ron knight) all preferred to mount vacs that way.

I think I have bodies like that in both scales, and should go look unless Philippe solves it sooner.

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Posted 28 April 2009 - 01:01 PM

Ah and so the plot thickens :blink:

Was there a brand that did not produce this Hussein :rolleyes:

Philippe,

I wish i had some kind of number of it.
I bought this from a guy in Geneva, i think Don or Allan pointed him out to me as i was searching for the Honda body from Lancer.
He was selling old slot car shop stock on E-Bay...i bought this one and a 'mint in box' Lancer Honda,
and some Pactra 1:24 Competition Rear tire & wheel assy.cut...No 460 1,95$PR still packed on a card (still have them unopened)

Fate,

Looking at the picture i do not think it is a late model Sipple body,
because it does not seem to have the flanges on the sides with are designed to be folded under the body.
can not remember them either.

Well it seems it can be narrowed down a bit.....
It's not a Du-bro,
and someone on Slotforum (Phil Kalbfell) informed me that it most likely is not a Lancer as it did not have the vacuum cleaner molded in.
And it's not a Detail model body as those where injection blow molded (unless they also did vacforms of this car)

OK well it's not a Du-bro then...or is it :D

I guess time will tell, thanks guys for thinking along :ok:

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Posted 28 April 2009 - 01:13 PM

Hi

Check the flanges on the sides. If they are designed to be folded under the body with, usually, molded in marks. this might be a late Sipple body. That tuck under flange was designed because bill and Schliecher at the time (and ron knight) all preferred to mount vacs that way.

I think I have bodies like that in both scales, and should go look unless Philippe solves it sooner.

Fate

Bill Sipple marketed bodies? I would have thought they would only have been fiberglass, so THAT'S another new bit of info! :D :shok:
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Posted 28 April 2009 - 04:03 PM

Bill Sipple marketed bodies? I would have thought they would only have been fiberglass, so THAT'S another new bit of info! :D :shok:


Those are the Auto Hobbies bodies Gary, which were also in vac-form models.

I just looked at my Lancer Hussein, and it looks very similar to this one; it's not the Lancer with the air intake molded in the cockpit - and I know I've seen that one not too long ago, maybe in a thread on here, but can't remember who did it!

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Posted 28 April 2009 - 05:03 PM

Both Select and Auto-Hobbies were produced from the same company under the VECO banner. Sippel was involved with both.

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Posted 29 April 2009 - 12:21 PM

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Which is why I use "sipple"...the guy did a lot of stuff under various lables, and, frankly I was more aware of sipple than rememering the names.

Part of the confusion is Schleicher battling at me about the "proper" way to mount bodies.

I am pretty sure that in 1/32 Sipple did the Hussein with the Nascar air cleaner, and the "clean" lid. And thinking about it, I THINK I have a Dubro with the clean top. In the day I really liked the looks of the Lola T70 and how that morphed into the Hussein. To me, the hussein looked like nothing so much as the sorts of things the kids I knew in school would sketch out as a "sports car".

Anyway, I have a 36d car with the Hussein body and no Nascar aircleaner but a clean deck in 1/24. Survivor. It was never quite competitive in that inline configuration. The more successful sidewinder got raced and beat a lot and needs serious work. But I am not sure who made the body!

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Posted 09 May 2009 - 02:36 AM

The Hussein has safely arrived at Howmet's, no thanks to the Swiss post-snail.

I send him a PM maybe he can see some things that can clarify who the maker is :)
ohw and my excuse to Gene for seriously kidnapping his thread :unsure: sorry.

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Posted 12 May 2009 - 04:19 PM

Copied from Slot Forum:

Gentlemen,
I did a bit of research in the LASCM vault and was able to put together the following list (I will post pictures later):

Select bodies were all sold with a Revell injected 3-piece driver, white plastic card for "cockpit" and mounting/painting instructions.

Select Innovations PO box 5, La Crescenta CA 91014
Same mailing address as VECO and Auto-Hobbies, PROVING the connection between Bill Sippel and Select

1/24 Scale
# 154 Chaparral 2D Nurburgring copy of Cox
# 155 Chaparral 2E w/ wing and tips
# 157 Lola T70 MKIIIB coupe
# 158 Chaparral 2Fcoupe

1/32 Scale
# 101 Ferrari 330P3
# 104 McLaren MK2
# 106 Chaparral 2D Daytona
# 107 Chaparral 2D Le Mans 1966
# 108 Lola T70 MK2 sports
# 109 Lotus 40 sports
# 110 Porsche 906 "Carrera 6" coupe
# 111 Shelby Cobra 427P roadster
# 113 Ford "J" coupe
# 115 Chaparral 2E w/ wing
# 116 PAM-Chevy Group 7
# 117 Lola MK3 coupe
# 118 Chaparral 2F coupe
# 119 Elfin 400 Group 7
# 120 Ford MK4 coupe
# 121 McLaren MK3 w/ wing
# 122 '68 Camaro copy of Revell?
# 123 Mustang fastback modified (Mach 1 or Shelby)

Unknown numbers for loose bodies in the museum:

McLaren MK6
Pontiac Firebird
California Sportsman
Chaparral 2 1965 Riverside w/fins and louvers.
BRM H16

Any help to obtain more information about the missing numbers is greatly welcome.
Regards,

Philippe


So, this is not a Select body.


Phillipe

I can back those up as being auto hobbies numbers I have number of those molds. I aquired them a few years back from oscars son when he placed the molds on EBAY. I will check to see what other numbers I can get for you.

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Posted 13 May 2009 - 01:02 AM

Philippe,

I can confirm 104, 115,116,117,118,119,120,121,122,123

The ford J mold I have is marked 112
114 chap 2C Riverside

1/24 scale
AH955B Masserati 450

When I get a chance I will dig through my lexan bodies later. The fiberglass bodies are labled CP-X

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 01:36 PM

Hello all...

I bought a couple of vintage slotcars... and I found two blow mold bodies...

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I have never seen this kind of stuff... so i googled... and found this thread!

Thank You for this... and for the ads!

Even if this is not what i am collecting... because i collect vintage Carrera Slotcars... it is very interesting for me to find out more about the other vintage slot cars that came with this bodies...

I hope it is ok if I post some questions about the stuff I bought...

Thank you...

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 02:05 PM

I am pretty sure it is OK to post questions. It is Best to find the closest appropriate sub forum. We all ask questions and we all try to find the answers. I am guessing you have Identified those bodies from the tread, but anyway to me they look like the "Detail Models Inc." 1/32 series. Regardless of the size ,this is probably the appropriate thread.

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 02:13 PM

I,m not sure if this is the correct way to direct this thread back to another but just to bring these topics together , here is some discussion about Russkit Superleggera Bodies


http://slotblog.net/...old#entry131423

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 06:45 PM

Mike,
Both your bodies are by the American company Detail Models. They are an Iso Grifo and a Cooper-Hussein. Detail Models produced such bodies in both the 1/24 and 1/32 scale.





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