Da Paint Jobs of Da Sano
#1
Posted 19 October 2009 - 06:06 PM
just some thoughts about some pictures i seen,,,,Were there Concourse winners at Da Sano???? were there awards for the worst paint jobs????....Noose does some really really good paint jobs.....+Rep for Noose, i mean most of your paint is fantastic....
but what about a total lack of effort in paint jobs....I seen so many paint jobs of one color splattered on the body with no attention to detail whatsoever!!!!! i though these cars were supposed to be realistic????i mean 3 randomly placed numbers, with a miniature sponsor, if that????? I think there should be a spirit calibration done to the paint jobs on some of these cars!!!!! i understand the paint job dosnt race but maybe some of these cars should have a little more effort or "spirit" put into these paint jobs...
Noose,,,your paint rocks,,hopefully you can inspire some of these guys to get a little more into the paint
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#2
Posted 19 October 2009 - 07:44 PM
Are there still some uglies out there ..yup..for sure. Jay Guard, who helped me in the first couple of techs assigned grades and some got some D minuses and were told.
I was fortunate to win 3 concours. Both F1s and the Can-Am for the Flat Track. My buddy and fellow artist Jack Beers win the GT coupe and Can-Am with very, very detailed bodies. DZ won the JK Spec Concours with a very pretty body.
Joe "Noose" Neumeister
Sometimes known as a serial despoiler of the clear purity of virgin Lexan bodies. Lexan is my canvas!
Noose Custom Painting - Since 1967
Chairman - IRRA® Body Committee - Roving IRRA® Tech Dude - "EVIL BUCKS Painter"
"Team Evil Bucks" Racer - 2016 Caribbean Retro Overall Champion
The only thing bad about Retro is admitting that you remember doing it originally.
#3
Posted 19 October 2009 - 09:19 PM
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#4
Posted 19 October 2009 - 09:34 PM
Congrats on the concours awards.
Justin,
Ron has come along way with the body detail with detailed Stacks, exhaust pipes, and painted sides.
Josh
#5
Posted 19 October 2009 - 09:51 PM
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#6
Posted 20 October 2009 - 07:57 AM
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#8
Posted 20 October 2009 - 08:36 AM
and to Ron, his interiors were good looking, but the body itself was about as boring as they come!!!! Im not complaining about the bodies, but at the PREMIER IRRA event i expected more...
Yea it's all about the bodies
I expected to see you at the premier race..... you could have shown us all your painting skills, building skills and driving skills.
Maybe next time????
Not to disappoint ya.... I WILL BE THERE with another "boring" body.
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Posted 20 October 2009 - 08:39 AM
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#10
Posted 20 October 2009 - 09:02 AM
Here are the concours winners by classes:
Can-Am King Track
Jack Beers 1st, Noose 2nd, Ken Swanson 3rd
Can-Am Flat Track
Noose 1st, 2nd Ken Swanson, 3rd Jay Guard
F1 King Track
Noose 1st, Jay Guard 2nd, Ken Swanson 3rd
F1 Flat Track
Noose 1st, Jack Beers 2nd, Jay Guard 3rd
GTC King Track
Jack Beers 1st, Noose 2nd, G, Suar 3rd (Eddie Mac body)
JK Spec King
Eddie DZ 1st, Noose 2nd, G. Suar 3rd
Joe "Noose" Neumeister
Sometimes known as a serial despoiler of the clear purity of virgin Lexan bodies. Lexan is my canvas!
Noose Custom Painting - Since 1967
Chairman - IRRA® Body Committee - Roving IRRA® Tech Dude - "EVIL BUCKS Painter"
"Team Evil Bucks" Racer - 2016 Caribbean Retro Overall Champion
The only thing bad about Retro is admitting that you remember doing it originally.
#11
Posted 20 October 2009 - 09:51 AM
Thanks Bill Fulmer for such detailed photos
just some thoughts about some pictures i seen,,,,Were there Concourse winners at Da Sano???? were there awards for the worst paint jobs????
but what about a total lack of effort in paint jobs....I seen so many paint jobs of one color splattered on the body with no attention to detail whatsoever!!!!! i though these cars were supposed to be realistic????i mean 3 randomly placed numbers, with a miniature sponsor, if that?????
While I appreciate you taking notice of my paint jobs and cars.... the Sano was advertised as a "RACE".... not a concours contest or model building contest or a painting contest.
Concours was a optional part of the event.
It was billed and advertised as a slot car race using IRRA retro racing rules.
In these rules it states the bodies are to be painted within reason.
My paint jobs passed tech as you can see by the race results. You have to pass tech before you can race.
The rules require 3 numbers........ mine had them.
The rules require the bodies to be painted..... mine was.
The rules do not require more than one color.
The rules do not require a sponsor.
Read the rules before making comments please.
How pretty a body is painted or how realistic is up to the entrant to do so...... it's a choice "thing"
Got it????
#12
Posted 20 October 2009 - 09:55 AM
Joe "Noose" Neumeister
Sometimes known as a serial despoiler of the clear purity of virgin Lexan bodies. Lexan is my canvas!
Noose Custom Painting - Since 1967
Chairman - IRRA® Body Committee - Roving IRRA® Tech Dude - "EVIL BUCKS Painter"
"Team Evil Bucks" Racer - 2016 Caribbean Retro Overall Champion
The only thing bad about Retro is admitting that you remember doing it originally.
#13
Posted 20 October 2009 - 11:17 AM
i though these cars were supposed to be realistic????
???
Based upon what?
You may be confusing the actual BODY being realistic(relative) as opposed to the paint job.
Good on ya for painting yours up beyond the minimum. But, as Ron pointed out, it's a race and race prep takes precedent over appearance for most racers. Don't fault them for doing so(wasted negative vibes); enjoy the ones that DID go above and beyond.
Remember, two wrongs don't make a right... but three lefts do! Only you're a block over and a block behind.
#14
Posted 20 October 2009 - 12:53 PM
#15
Posted 20 October 2009 - 04:15 PM
Thanks for the Cheapshot Ron,and to think i picked you to win, shame on me for thinking you were a class act ,,,,,Im pretty sure he can afford to have someone paint him a body...IMO....
Way to go Ken!!!! Congrats on winning a race with a good looking car!!!!!!
I thought painting and building were both in the SPIRIT of retro slot car racing?????? I didnt bring this up to be negative, it just happened to catch my eyes when i was looking through the photos........If it bothers you that much, then paint a better looking car!!!!!!
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#16
Posted 20 October 2009 - 04:36 PM
OK so you forgot one thing.....SPIRIT!!!!!! you can argue with me all you want about it but IMO there were some lame bodies......A total lack of effort...Just my opinion,,,obviously it struck you at heart. i understand it was a race, and how the car works is more important but can you see any Top Nascar driver racing a Primer Gray car with just 3 numbers at a Nascar race????? C'mon you guys know what i mean about some of these paint jobs being minimalist....You would think the top drivers would be driving some good looking cars,IMO...
I think you have some sort of romanticized fantasy going on about slot car pros and nicely painted bodies? Your comparison to NASCAR is just in real racing you're talking about major money of sponsorship, and if they don't have it they usually paint the car all black or all white.
You need to remember Ron is a businessman and is worried about making money to pay his bills and come race, not attempt to paint a nice body. Jerry Kulich (JK products) came and raced the spec race with a borrowed car with a one color paint job. Everyone was happy to have him come race with us and I don't think anyone cared that his car wasn't his or he didn't have fancy paint?
Now to be mean
I'm not impressed with your least detailed body. Come on show something capable of winning concours, not some fade with a couple of stickers.
#17
Posted 20 October 2009 - 04:43 PM
yes, indeed.OK so you forgot one thing.....SPIRIT!
Thanks to the guys that really put up the effort!
Philippe de Lespinay
#18
Posted 20 October 2009 - 04:47 PM
i thought some of these guys owned companies and had sponsors,,,i just thought ,,,once again,,,,IMO ,,, they would have better looking rides.....you say im romantisizing about pros and nice bodies,,well when your proffesional , i think you should present yourself that way.......obviously im not a pro but 99% of my cars look more "Pro" then some of those......but once again this is my opinion
like i said im not a pro, so take it with a grain of salt
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#20
Posted 20 October 2009 - 05:01 PM
What you also missed were Eddie DZ's other non-concors cars in his box. Some of them were litterally primer gray with a "don't care" written with a Sharpe on the body. DZ chose to only run spec for whatever reason? Had he raced the other classes you would have seen bodies that you would have complained about.
#21
Posted 20 October 2009 - 05:08 PM
Thanks for the Cheapshot Ron,and to think i picked you to win, shame on me for thinking you were a class act ,,,,,Im pretty sure he can afford to have someone paint him a body...IMO....
I thought painting and building were both in the SPIRIT of retro slot car racing?????? I didnt bring this up to be negative, it just happened to catch my eyes when i was looking through the photos........If it bothers you that much, then paint a better looking car!!!!!!
Your welcome for the cheap shot.... but you started this...now you wanna cry I gave you a cheap shot..... what or where exactly is the cheap shot?
Here is what a 1969 Ferrari 612 looked like in real life......
Here is my "retro slot version"
So while the color is different...it has three numbers like the rules and real car does.... mine even has a sponsor..while the real one doesn't. My company sponsor is on my car.
Did you ever see any real full size Can-Am bodies with the drivers name painted down the whole top of the rear fenders? Nope...only in slot cars and not all of them in the day were painted that way either.
So next time you want to stir the pot with me about my paint jobs....... better bring a bigger sized spoon. I already got mine and stir regularly.
And if you want to discuss "class" one who gets on here and judges the other paint jobs at a race you didn't attend..... you really show that you have no class as you was not even there to tell them face to face their paint jobs were boring, worse than others, lacking spirit or effort. You have no class hiding behind a keyboard.
#22
Posted 20 October 2009 - 05:11 PM
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#23
Posted 20 October 2009 - 05:13 PM
BTW:
What you also missed it were Eddie DZ's other non-concors cars in his box. Some of them were litterally primer gray with a "don't care" written with a Sharpe on the body. DZ chose to only run spec for whatever reason? Had he raced the other classes you would have seen bodies that you would have complained about.
Now your talking "spirit".
#24
Posted 20 October 2009 - 05:14 PM
One thing to remember, Can-Am cars of the era, were often painted in a single color. McLaren and Chaparral, as well as the above mentioned Ferrari, are good examples. However, if we want to represent slot cars of the era, multi-color paint jobs were not uncommon. How can you have a Retro Race in Chicago, without someone coming up with a Dave Bloom type paint scheme??? I guess, that a case could be made for either approach!
Ding ding ding...we have a winner!!!!
#25
Posted 20 October 2009 - 05:29 PM
So to make your crummy point, trying to squirm under the criticism by others, you take ONE example of ONE car done at the last minute in the FIVE classes I ran at the Checkpoint, in which my cars placed in Concours twice, then make an example of it. I call this pure hypocrisy.
You have been hinted by plenty of people for the past two years that of all people, YOU should be giving an example, but instead, it's one crappy body after another. Don't feel that you are alone here, by the way, but you are alone in trying to make every excuse in the book, to the "letter of the law". F*** the "spirit" of course, that meaningless ugly word.
Then you, Plain & Simple Ron, give lessons in BS to everyone here.
I have to congratulate you, you are really good at it.
Philippe de Lespinay