167 replies to this topic

[Ralph Thorne]

i guess , i just take pride in all of my cars....maybe i was an old man in another life????? o-well!!!!

It's been proven that you and TSR both run "spray bomb" paint jobs, so maybe you should get down off of your high horse.

It doesnt matter how we paint our cars because they meet the rules as noted by the tech director. Why keep dragging a losing arguement on?

[DirtyHairy]

It's been proven that you and TSR both run "spray bomb" paint jobs, so maybe you should get down off of your high horse.

It doesnt matter how we paint our cars because they meet the rules as noted by the tech director. Why keep dragging a losing arguement on?

who's arguing???i guess you are trying to change my opinion?????? and your right i spray bomb....but they all look like the mona lisa compared to the crap you ran!!!!its called pride....i probally put just as much effort into my chassis as you do....and i know i put more effort in my bodies.. Just make sure you do the "minimum" just to get by.....(sounds like pussification to me)

so what happened to all this "spirit of retro" ???wheres your spirit Ralph.i thought the intent of this organization was to promote a return of spirit of slot car racing??...i guess you dont have any???? if your against the intent of the organazation, then why run in its events????? NOW ITS AN ARGUEMENT!! ,,,its my opinion that your paint job sucks .....get over it....

i thought we moved on?????

[Noose]

OK..this needs to stop and some need to get a grip here.

Ralph may not paint great but he makes some excellent plaques, lane markers, etc.

Soo..move on folks.

[John Streisguth]

l'll second that...

[Mr. Frank]

WOW!!! Mr. Frank

[Ralph Thorne]

who's arguing???

LOL sounds like you are, and I know this because you said "NOW ITS AN ARGUMENT!!"

i guess you are trying to change my opinion?????? and your right i spray bomb....but they all look like the mona lisa compared to the crap you ran!!!!its called pride....i probally put just as much effort into my chassis as you do....and i know i put more effort in my bodies.. Just make sure you do the "minimum" just to get by.....(sounds like pussification to me)

Well thats your opinion which your entitled to no matter how misguided it might be. If you race 21 times per month, and use a new body like I do almost everytime, and still have time paint a "Mona Lisa" like body than good for you.

so what happened to all this "spirit of retro" ???wheres your spirit Ralph.i thought the intent of this organization was to promote a return of spirit of slot car racing??...i guess you dont have any???? if your against the intent of the organazation, then why run in its events????? NOW ITS AN ARGUEMENT!! ,,,its my opinion that your paint job sucks .....get over it....

i thought we moved on?????

There you go with all of those crazy assumptions again. You see I showed my spirit by showing up, talking with friends, and racing. Not by sitting at home and whining about everything.

[Ralph Thorne]

OK..this needs to stop and some need to get a grip here.

Ralph may not paint great but he makes some excellent plaques, lane markers, etc.

Soo..move on folks.

Thank you Noose and John!

[mazur50]

I agree with Noose.

I think the spirit of retro is not building chassis its not painting body's. It is getting people to the raceway and to have fun and racing. I personal like to paint but i am not going to put 5 hrs into painting a body that is going to get destroyed in a big race. In fact time was so tight for me i just bought a body to race in spec.

Concourse is for the people that want to put time in and build models and that is fine.

The race is for people that want to get down and race push the rules.

There are many people like Jack Beers and Ken Swanson that can do both and more power to them.

What we need to be concerned about is Retro is pushing people out, with having to spend to much money

I know of a few people that raced at the Sano that are on a tight budget and cant paint to save there life. So does that mean that they are going to have to spend more money on buying a nice body. If that is the case then are not going to race.

If that is the case the would be the death certificate for Retro Racing. I already know a few people that say "Retro racing is a lot of Money to spend to go slow."

Right now the goal of Retro Racing should be to have as many people race and have a good time. Not bitch on the keyboard like a old lady with nothing to do.

[Bernie]

Mike has said it all. Let's RACE

[Victor Poulin]

Ok,
Im not trying to beat a dead horse here, but I think things are fine just the way they are. As long as the paint jobs pass teck, than that should be good enough for us. There are so many things to take into consideration. Time,talent,money,ect. These are all major factors to think about. Everyone who has posted to this topic have valid points. If you have the time,talent,money, thats great. But if you dont, and you are able to just scrape by,or maybe are just starting out, does that mean that you shouldnt be allowed to race, just because you dont have a $60 plus paint job? I dont have the body talent of Noose, or the chassis talent of Tony P, Or even the motor talent of Ron H , I also have little money, but I would still like to be able to stand at the drivers panel with all of them !! Yes,, maybe my paint job would stink, and maybe my chassis set up might suck, and maybe my motor might be slower , but isnt that racing? I for sure,, would not pass up a chance to stand beside any of these guys and learn from there wisdom, just because they didnt have a very pretty paint job. And getting back to Ron, sorry to keep draging you back into this Ron,, I think his cars looked just fine. More important, they were fast !! This is racing folks !!! Not a beauty contest . All this bickering is going to do, is drive the newbe away, not bring them in. DONT FIX WHAT AINT BROKE !!

[Victor Poulin]

And one more thing !
If I were lucky enough to be standing beside any of these retro greats, I really dont think id be giving to sh##s about how pretty there paint jobs were

[Jacob Shiplet]

I have read this thread and followed this thread from the beginning. I for one, CAN NOT paint, at all. I cant build a chassis, but I am going to try, although Josh Crutchfield and Mike McMasters along with half the folks who race regularly at Tom Thumbs would help me in a heartbeat if needed. I am a true newb, I bought a can-am car from a board member and have raced it some at Tom Thumbs, along with a couple flexi cars I have. I have a crappy Turbo controller(although I am going to pull the trigger on a difalco when I get a chance), no big box, I dont have 20+ bodies to choose from or 4 types of chassis' to choose from for each class. I am not on the shortest budget, but my kids come first and I want to bring my son along to the races and have him enjoy what I get to enjoy. Thats people joking, thats F1 cars flying off the track and guys laughing about it, good old fashioned fun. This hobby can get expensive fast, if you let it. I understand this, just like most should. I can go out an drag race my old beat up 93 corolla if I wanted to be cheap and just have fun. Or I can take out my 69 plymouth thats backhalved, big motor, big tire and take it a whole lot more serious and alot more expensive. I got into this because Mike told me it was the most fun hes had in 30 years of racing. When I hear some of Mikes stories about how it used to be, and the fun he used to have way back in the day, and he compares the racing now to even better than that, I had to get in. I dont think I will ever be able to paint like noose, actually I know I wont be able to, most of my cars look like Ron's actually(but I tried). I will never be able to build a chassis like Crutchfield or some of the other amazing chassis' i see on here, but im going to try. Half the battle is making it to the race and through the race, I heard the other half of the fun is trying to make different chassis' work. because you built them. Dont get me wrong, looking at some of the bodies from this show, WOW, but at the same time, I want to learn to race, and race at the top. If I would ever get to watch Ron run, maybe I would learn something, I know I have from watching Mike and some of the other guys that race at Tom Thumbs. Have I ever watched anyone build a chassis? No. Have I ever seen anyone paint before(slot cars)? No. Does this make a newb who shows up at a local/regional/national race less of a racer because he shows up with a mediocre chassis and body? If I ask someone why they did that, or how they did this, are you going to just dismiss them? I am speaking to the "pros" on the board, if I come and ask you a question are you going to just turn your shoulder because im not good enough? Because I only race in 1 or 2 classes? To me it sounds like some people think they are better than the other because someone can paint, or someone can build a chassis or a motor better. Do you think im the only beginner reading this page or this forum in general? Really makes me question whether I can go to the Penn-Ohio series or the Ohio Valley series or even the R4 if I dont bring some of the sickest stuff people has ever seen.

[Michael Rigsby]

And one more thing !
If I were lucky enough to be standing beside any of these retro greats, I really dont think id be giving to sh##s about how pretty there paint jobs were

Ditto what Vic said. Should I ever be able to race against these guys, I could give a darn what the body on their slot car looked like cause I'm sure mine would be worse than anything they could think of. I'd be happy just to say I got to race against them let alone worry 'bout small stuff like that.

And I'm kinda like Ron Hershman. Its a car race, not a pony show. I've gone the concourse route and did my best and didn't win, and my car still looks just as bad at the end of a race just like if I started with one of my normal POS paint jobs.

Let's race.

Michael Rigsby

[Larry Mattingly]

Hey Jacob

You will find 99% of the racers in retro to be great...

Don't let that stop you from attending a series race.

Ask anyone a question, and you'll get all the information you need.

I've seen Ron tell people to change things, test drive their cars etc. Nice guy, he doesn't bite. Well, most of the time...

LM

[Noose]

You will find 99% of the racers in retro to be great...

Ask anyone a question, and you'll get all the information you need.

LM

Exactly

[DirtyHairy]

but once again the thread has drifted....the thread is the paint jobs of da sano...not the race.....but its done with and i think its past time to squash this!!!! i know Ron and Ralph are good racers,,,,it was a matter of opinion,,,and that opinion was about paint jobs,,,NOT RACING!!!!!!!!!!! i can officially say............Paint jobs+Peoples feelings on them=FAIL

[RomanK]

"Officially"? How so? Seems that overwhelmingly those that actually participated in the event and the rules as they are written, disagree with your "opinion" and "Officially" each of the racers cars you singled out met the requirements as spelled out by the rules. So "Officially" it was a PASS and you simply insisted on making a mountain out of a molehill, don't you agree?

[Cheater]

Justin has requested this thread be closed and since he made the first post, I'm going to honor that request.