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[Ron Hershman]

OK looking though the 1990 SARN Atlanta Nats report......

The Winning Box Stock 12 total was 221 laps, 237 Int 15, 379 for Gr 27, 496 for Semi Pro and 500 for Gr 7 Pro.

TQ for Int 15 was Rick DeMondo 4.375

TQ for 27 was Joey Redmond 3.675

TQ for Semi Pro was Dick P 3.385

TQ for Pro was 3.647 PA Watson

[MSwiss]

The times were way faster than you remember.
Winning totals from 1990 were:
Box 15 Richard Vallastro-221
Group 27 Dick Pelletier-379 (284 lap pace for 3 minutes)
Pro G7 myself-500 (300 lap pace for 3 minutes)

Dick P TQ'ed Semi-pro G7 with a 3.38 on one timing system.
IIRC, John Pierce TQ'ed Pro G7 with a 3.5 or a low 3.6
on the other timing system.

[Ron Hershman]

IIRC, John Pierce TQ'ed Pro G7 with a 3.5 or a low 3.6
on the other timing system.

Going by the Korford "Nats" ad...... page 17...... PA TQ'ed for the Gr 7 race.

However the Warm UP Gr 7 race was much faster...... in the tech sheets the fastest qual lap listed was a 3.561 485 laps.

The race report for the warm-up says PA Watson cut John Pierce by a full tenth. No times listed from qualifying

[MSwiss]

It looks like 4 of us posted at the same time.

To add to Jeff's and Ron's posts.

I qualified 3.86 and raced out of the Consi's.
I never held any qualifying records at Georgia Hobby.

P.A. TQ'ed the warm-up(with zero practice laps on the track)
but I'm pretty sure Pierce was TQ in the "real" race.
His 3.5? "doesn't show" because he didn't make the main.
I don't think there is any reference to who TQ'ed in the text of
Scale Auto Racing.

[Ron Hershman]

I don't think there is any reference to who TQ'ed in the text of
Scale Auto Racing.

Other than the "Koford Sweeps the Nats" ad..... no there is not.

[MSwiss]

As mentioned, I used "IIRC".
Possibly John was TQ after the first round.

Also, IIRC, PA went something like 3.35 in the warm-up,
I'm 99% sure, with the timing system Dick P went 3.38 with in Semi-Pro.

[Rotorranch]

It looks like 3 of us posted at the same time.

To add to Jeff's and Ron's posts.

I qualified 3.86 and raced out of the Consi's.
I never held any qualifying records at Georgia Hobby.

Old age strikes again!

Swiss did NOT TQ. My bad.... too many years, too many beers! I don't remember who TQ'ed for sure, but I sure thought it was PA. It could have been Pierce, though.

It was also getting late in the week, and a lot of memories from the Nats kind of run together after 7 days of almost 24 hour days working at the raceway!

I do remember the purple toilet water the Camen guys installed, and all the "No Koford" stickers that showed up stuck to everything. I think someone even stuck one on Stu's back!

Rotor

[Ron Hershman]

Didn't Pierce win the 400 bucks or something like that amount for TQ'ing on the Big 240' Hillclimb at Lee's place that week????

[MSwiss]

He definitely won a fair amount of dough for "winning a pot"
for turning the fastest lap on that track during the Nat's.

Again, IIRC, it was $1 a lap to try and the nickname of the track
could be construed as a pejorative term.

It sounded like fun but I never got out there.
I was too busy pitting for Rich DeMondo & Jerry Kulich in the lower classes
and eating chicken wings from a trailer in a shopping center parking lot.

[Rotorranch]

It sounded like fun but I never got out there.
I was too busy pitting for Rich DeMondo & Jerry Kulich in the lower classes
and eating chicken wings from a trailer in a shopping center parking lot.

That would have been Mo-Jo's Wings... They are still around, but not in the trailers anymore. Good wings though!

Rotor

[JohnnySlotcar]

I just remember Nick C. making me sick at the Olive Garden. Endless bread sticks and salad was an understatement.They were relieved to see him leave!!
Never again would I enter an Olive Garden.

[MSwiss]

Ron,
There was some recent E-Mails going back between PA and myself so I asked him.

His reply:
I remember. I did at the Warm-Up race but not the Big Race.


Regardless of the "Who TQ'ed and who ate what at the race?" thread drift,
the times and lap totals Peter posted just show what I think most people already believe,
while the equipment has gotten better over the years,
the decrease in lap times and the increase in lap totals on Kings are based
more on larger radius, more banked(other than the big bank)
easier to drive, tracks.

Most notable is Rich Demondo TQ'ing Int. 15, with ceramic mags,
a longer stack arm and a wire chassis, with a time faster than
the fastest C12 race (I assume) lap, with cobalt mags, a shorter
stack 50T29 arm and (I assume) a one pc. steel or aluminum chassis.

[Ron Hershman]

Regardless of the "Who TQ'ed and who ate what at the race?" thread drift,
the times and lap totals Peter posted just show what I think most people already believe,
while the equipment has gotten better over the years,
the decrease in lap times and the increase in lap totals on Kings are based
more on larger radius, more banked(other than the big bank)
easier to drive, tracks.

Most notable is Rich Demondo TQ'ing Int. 15, with ceramic mags,
a longer stack arm and a wire chassis, with a time faster than
the fastest C12 race (I assume) lap, with cobalt mags, a shorter
stack 50T29 arm and (I assume) a one pc. steel or aluminum chassis.

Like I usually say...... it's the tracks that are faster...not the cars. With that said... I would think that Modelville's mile is probably a tad quicker than the mile in Atlanta due to it's new surface. Not knowing what power differences there may be...... the new surfaces "has to be" faster than a stock American surface. Not knocking the Atlanta track in any way...it was in supurb shape for it's age.

It's like running my Can-Am retro car at Tom Thumb's on the American King and going 4.76 and 285 laps and taking the same car to TR's Gerding King and running 4.1 laps and 331 laps.... it's not the car.... it's the track. Both tracks are excellent...just two different "beasts".

[Lenjet]

Hello Everybody,

It is interesting to see how things have changed, I really meant to put in post #273 that the time of 7.5 seconds was what was capable back in the day. I was a little off as it appears that the
fastest times were high 8 second range. I remember in Framingham we were around 7.5 in 1973.

See the attached page on the Arco 33 from Columbus that took place in late1967. There was ample power but this was a long time ago. This is from MC&R January 1968. It seems that most of the pictures never came out, too bad.

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[Lenjet]

Hello Everybody,

The American Royal Black came out great and we have run IRRA Retro's and 1/32 Eurosports and it is just a very cool track. Since it has magnetic braid we tried a Slot-it Chaparral and it was an amazing
experience. This is a very smooth track since both Hasse and Gary Gerding worked on it.

We now have two original and rare American tracks from the 60's. One of the pictures is of my good friend Gary Gerding fussing of the details on the Royal surface.

I HAVE ALSO DUPLICATED THE BELLS FOR THE LEGS SO NOW THE LOOK OF BOTH THE SOVEREIGN AND THE ROYAL WILL BE
COMPLETE. IT IS GOOD TO OWN A MACHINE SHOP. VISIT WWW.LENTROS.COM THIS IS WHAT FUNDS MY BAD HABITS.

Come and visit sometime.

Modelville Hobby
280 Eliot Street
Ashland, MA. 01721

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[Tex]

Schweet, Pete!

[John Stezelecki]

OK,
So the big question is that since Peter owns a very high tech machine shop, can he make a ringer ball to allow those bells to ring after a big race? LOL

[mwjsone/page]

The track surface looks great beats Gray

[Vay Jonynas]

Any updates on the racing on this track?

[nicky 65]

just when you thought there was only 1 purple mile left...............guess what slot car junkies. There is another ....thats right . Another sovereign lives in brooklyn..................buzzy has one, to go along with his emperor. Only problem is .............they are not set up................ just collecting dust. What a shame..............lets put the pressure on him to get them up and running again.

[Bill from NH]

He might not have the real estate to put them up. The Buzz-A-Rama videos I've seen lately show the existing location to be very full. And Buzzy seems quite contented with what he's got.

[flem1959]

I am on vacation between March 26 and April 11.
I would really like to visit your track for a couple days.
Do you have any races scheduled during that time?

[nicky 65]

I am on vacation between March 26 and April 11.
I would really like to visit your track for a couple days.
Do you have any races scheduled during that time?

As of right now the next race is on march 4th ..............parma flexi chassis with sealed deathstar motors 1/8 axles and 48 pitch gearsand nascar bodies1/16 clearance ................race to be run on the orange monarch track, $10 entry fee
No other races are scheduled as of right now. But that could change

[Highnoon]

I remember running on a Sovereign in Columbus, OH, in the mid-'60s. The raceway was Tom Thumb East on Hamilton Road. IIRC, I was running a MPC Dodge Charger with the Dyn-O-Can motor. A loooooong walk to put your car back on.

I don't remember, does the Soverign have the "car catcher" on top of the bank like a King?

 

I remember that place, I was running at Parma in the 60's and it was the first BIG race I ever went to. My dad drove me down there, I think it was a arco or maybe a cobra race. I remember John Cukras was there and was blowing motors left and right and Pete Zimmerman was winding arms in the pits. I don't remember anything else other than my car was bad and it took forever to complete a lap.

 

I didn't see that post, it was an ARCO 33 race, cool.

[sidejobjon]

Heres a Parma Raceway sticker on a box. Len-Jet also has original HO track from there totally restored.

SJJ

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