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[gascarnut]

There is only one edition and indeed this wire drop arm was added by someone along the way.

Agreed.

The original chassis has no drop arm, just a guide tongue that was cut off on the example shown above.

I thought that the guide mounts in the hole in the small tab immediately behind the front axle, that we normally associate with a body mounting hole in other Monogram frames. The body has four mounting points that correspond with the other four holes in the frame.

[ShootinSparks]

I thought that the guide mounts in the hole in the small tab immediately behind the front axle, that we normally associate with a body mounting hole in other Monogram frames. The body has four mounting points that correspond with the other four holes in the frame.

If you put the guide there, it would lift the front wheels/tires 1/4" or more off the track.

I think Philippe is saying this chassis had to be used inverted for the '32 Deuce body to be fitted, with the motor "hanging" beneath the chassis.

The pic HarV/Barney posted must've been used with some other body fitted.

If you look closely at this enlargement, you can see where someone cut off the original guide mount tab. The front center of the chassis looks a little ragged like it may have been hastily cut off with snips.

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[TSR]

I think Philippe is saying this chassis had to be used inverted for the '32 Deuce body to be fitted, with the motor "hanging" beneath the chassis.

Correct a-mundo, as the Fonz would say.

[Horsepower]

I was just thumbing through my Car Model mags and it said this car was the worst handling car of all their first edition slot cars. Now I know why.

[Gary Bluestone]

Maybe a bit late but may be of some help now or in the future. First photo shows chassis as it is meant to run, Second shows chassis upside down for clarity, Third shows complete cars. The  Car #7  , I am repairing and tuning for a friend. #49 is in for minor repairs and tuning, unmarked car is being built up from spare parts.

As for some magazine's claim that these are poor handling, I disagree completely. In vintage racing it is best to race these cars in equal classes, so it is totally unfair to compare a 1932 Deuce Hot Rod to a Ferrari 250 GTO or other sports car like the MGA. When raced with other Deuce's they are a riot, and superior to most  cars in their class like the Scalextric Bentley, Alfa Romeo and other Vintage cars of that era.

Monogram went to a great deal of effort to create this charming little car from a static kit that had been in production since the 1950's. A unique chassis was engineered, along with many special parts which were cast in matching body colour, like the firewall chassis mount, driver, V8 motor and unique grill and headlight assemble and some others. Racing these cars is Vintage Slot Car Racing at it's best !

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[Lone Wolf]

Nice group Gary, 3 Deuces are hard to beat

 

One more helpful hint. If you need a driver for this car you can get one molded in red in the Monogram Firebolt model kit that was reissued sometime back but still can be found. Same driver for the MGA as well,

[Gary Bluestone]

Thanks Joe, I compared the Deuce and MGA drivers and the Deuce is a bit taller. Thanks for the tip about the Firebolt ! I will check it out.

[Lone Wolf]

Gary, I stand corrected. Sorry for the misinformation. I just looked at the two and indeed the MGA guy is shorter. I never compared them side by side.

 

Now I am looking for my Firebolts to compare. I had an original and a reissue here but may have sold them. I will continue to look. Now I am very curious as to which version, short or tall is in the Firebolt.  

 

 

Update, I typed Monogram Firebolt in Google and some open box images come up. Looks like the "tall" guy to me which would be good for the Deuce. 

[MattD]

A 32 frame is on Ebay now. It is not described as such, but that's what it is and it is just listed as an old frame.

[Gary Bluestone]

Couldn't find it, can you supply # or more info ?

[MattD]

I can't give you any more info, I just ran across it sometime the last couple days while going thru the various vintage slot car listings. I didn't save the auction or anything. It might have been a buy it now and somebody jumped on it allready. Have you searched all three vintage listings?

[Pete L.]

Fellas,

 

 What a great amount of info on this thread ...the upside down chassis (had me baffled for years), the FIREBOLT driver ( my MGA WILL have a driver after all) and the great pics of the red roadsters .

 

 

Thanks for sharing !!!

[Gary Bluestone]

Glad to be of some help ! I actually ran across this thread while searching for box art on Google. It is really in the wrong forum and has the wrong title. It should have been in "Vintage Slot Cars", and it is not called the Lil Deuce, which is a 1/24 model kit (actually called Little Deuce) Just to confuse matters more, there is a Big Deuce 1/8 scale and a 1/24 1932 Ford Deuce Roadster Drag Hot Rod. The slot car was called the Racing Deuce Roadster, or Deuce Roadster or the "Hot Rod" Besides all these, there is a Lil Deuce Coupe and at least 1 roadster model from Monogram in 1/24.

[Tom Katsanis]

Does anyone do a repro grille & windscreen frame for these roadsters.
Thanks.