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[MSwiss]

When guys see these go around my flat track, they can't help but smile.

 

Sano Dave Fiedler commented that after being a bit tired of building, these cars would inspire him to scratchbuild a new chassis.

 

My idea is for a proxy event, at least held at my raceway, where the cars would be run on both the flat track and the King, with

the combined lap total for both tracks, would determine the winner.

 

To be fair, local racers would not be permitted to enter a tested car.

 

Major car components and gear ratio would be speced out, with parts shown in my $53.95 kit required.

Kurtis kit

 

Cars would require a 3 7/8" WB and max., 1/4" guide lead, a mandatory .050" F & R clearance, with all other chassis design , wide open.

 

Races, of course, would be broadcast on U-stream, as the other Proxy events I've held.

 

Other parts of the event would be a Concours, and possibly a "heads up" race for the top finishers against the local racer's "tested" cars.

 

Entry fee would be free,  with purchase of the $59.95 kit.

 

Only other parts required would be chassis materials other than the supplied JK bracket and C/R guide tongue, and incidentals such as lead wire,

guide clips, washers and nut, braid, axle spacers, pins and detail parts.

 

The only other cost would be my  shipping cost back to the owner (approx. $5-$10) or another raceway, if any is interested in hosting a race.

 

I have no idea if these cars have the same appeal to others, as they do with my locals.

 

I'd like to see a minimum of 8 entries to proceed and hold the race.

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[Tim Neja]

Those look very cool!! When I have time--I'd like to build a couple for my home track!!

[boxerdog]

I like that idea if the allowable tires had a max width and a min height spec....I'd almost plop one on my existing retro F-1 to see how it looks...what great looking cars!

[Duffy]

YESS! Mike mentioned these the other day and I demurred - it's a lot tougher when you're lookin' right at 'em, though. Real tempting.

Duf

[MSwiss]

I like that idea if the allowable tires had a max width and a min height spec....I'd almost plop one on my existing retro F-1 to see how it looks...what great looking cars!

Tires come in at about 1.080".

 

I was kicking around a 1.000" minimum, to allow truing, and or testing.

 

Rear tires are NOT .800". They already look pretty good at the stock width of a little less than .700".

 

That said, at rim width, approx. .540" wide, they probably look better.

 

The short guide lead is where these really deviate vs. a Retro car.

 

With a , IMO, an over powering  F7 in one of the pictured cars, I ran a 5.9 on my flat track.

 

A real top Retro F1 will run about a 5.1.

[MG Brown]

No offense intended to Mr Swiss, but I don't get proxy racing.

It seems to me somewhat like sending your wife / GF on a trip alone, having a minimum of 8 other guys wine and dine her, and then they evaluate the experience for you after they have sent her back home.

I admit that I am not the best slot car driver but I get a certain amount of pleasure in driving my creations.

Just me I guess. I don't get anime either.

[MSwiss]

M.G.,

Easy to for you say, being in the Chicago area, with 2 raceways within a mile or so of each other.

 

For those without a local raceway, it's a way to see how their cars stack up against others.

[Duffy]

Yah - well, to me, it's even less about racing as about sharing the cars with guys who don't normally see each others' work; and, remember, Retro's about the Scratchbuilding, right?

I'm currently embroiled in a proxy, a co-op job where I'm designated painter; now, given that I'm in no way a REAL painter (I just play one on Slotblog), I'm mostly doing this to say too my buddies elsewhere "THIS is what I do, just for fun."

Proxies might just give some of us a chance to connect. In that, it's not real different from why we post on the Blog. How 'bout that?

Duf

ps: much as I should resist, I'm reeel tempted to do one of these roadsters. In "period" spirit. How cool is that. -df

[MSwiss]

Something about that scalloped paint on the nose, puts me in a better mood.

[JohnnySlotcar]

Johnny Slotcar is in on this one! Send me out a kit please, I am ready to build one myself [ yes, pigs can fly]!!

[Paul Jurczyszyn]

I have built this using a cheep Parma sprint pan cut and extended to wb. This make it easy an cheep.
Paul

[Milkman]

I'd definitely participate.  These cars look very cool and would love to see all the entries.  When's it going to happen? 

[Steve Deiters]

Mike Swiss:  Any pictures of any completed chassis so we have an idea of a starting point for these monsters?

[gotboostedvr6]

Can we see the chassis?

Oops beat me to the punch.

[MantaRay]

I'm in.........Glad to see Johnny Slotcar is going to build one.....
How wide are the bodies? Or is there a max width?
We will not test at C/R.

[boxerdog]

I had never considered a proxy race until I built a car for the  Balls Out race this year, and it was a lot of fun. Now I have a beat  up thingie in my case signed by some of the best drivers in SoCal...how cool is that! They had to drive my ill-handling POS and I didn't! And if this goes, Mike, count me in, please.

[MSwiss]

Mike Swiss:  Any pictures of any completed chassis so we have an idea of a starting point for these monsters?

I'll see if I can get one posted this weekend.

 

The car's pictured are not mine.

 

The body  requires an approx. 1.400" wide chassis with a 3 7/8" WB and a short 1/4" guide lead.

[Ramcatlarry]

Track width outside max?  3" or less?  Shot pics at the Indy Museum awhile back and narrow tires WILL be more scale - like 1/2 - 3/4" .  Early roadsters used like 7.50 - 8.00 tires on 15" front rims and 16" rear rims. 

 

There are a few other shells other than the Kurtis  available in front motor.

[endbelldrive]

No offense intended to Mr Swiss, but I don't get proxy racing.

It seems to me somewhat like sending your wife / GF on a trip alone, having a minimum of 8 other guys wine and dine her, and then they evaluate the experience for you after they have sent her back home...

You're saying that's a bad thing, Mick?

 

I'd like to send my wife...I mean I'd like to build a car for this event too.

[MG Brown]

You're saying that's a bad thing, Mick?

You're the best Bob. Carry on gentlemen.

 

[JohnnySlotcar]

I have my center hinge, rear steer on the drawing board! ROFL

[MG Brown]

Those looking for inspiration for paint jobs are invited to visit:

 

Harry A. Miller Club / Millers at Milwaukee Information

 

Millers at Milwaukee Gallery 2011

 

Millers at Milwaukee Gallery 2009

[Dave Crevie]

You can find hundreds of pictures of the real cars by just searching " Kurtis Kraft indy cars"

 

There is also a decal supplier called Indycals which has most of the sponsor sets available.

[slotbaker]

If I bought your kit, used the body wheels and motor, would this be eligible to enter?

(That's a Patto's body.)

[Pablo]

I'm in.       Sounds like a heck of a lot of fun. I don't even have to leave the privacy of my own home to satisfy my cravings. This could be my best and only chance to be in an "A" Main with Sano Dave

Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee