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#26 MSwiss

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 06:02 PM

If I bought your kit, used the body wheels and motor, would this be eligible to enter?

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I'd love to say "Yes", but I'll have to say "No".

 

I had no idea that there was existing cars out there.

 

IMO, rather than butcher up an existing car, (which looks great, BTW) to fit the clearance parameters, you'd be much better of just starting fresh,

especially considering the spec fronts are 3/32" axle.


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Posted 21 January 2013 - 06:13 PM

Mike Swiss:  Any pictures of any completed chassis so we have an idea of a starting point for these monsters?

Steve,

The below are the two existing chassis that are out there, both made by the guy who did the mold, Dave Crevie.

 

This past Saturday, both were raced on my flat track.

 

I ran the simpler car (top one with black body), and IMO, it wasn't as good as the slightly whizzier, Z rail chassis.

(bottom one with red body)

 

I ran a 5.97 in practice with it, even at, IMO, a pretty light 110 G.

 

For being Falcon II powered, that's a pretty impressive time.

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 06:30 PM

How wide are they supposed to be?


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Posted 21 January 2013 - 06:38 PM

1.400" , but if using a commercial jig out there, to make it easy, I would just build to 1.375".


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Posted 21 January 2013 - 07:36 PM

1.375 sounds like a plan................but I'm going to sand off the "Pro Track" on the tires....lol


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Posted 21 January 2013 - 07:38 PM

Pablo, My Friend................If you are here in person or proxy...................It's all good...............build on


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Posted 21 January 2013 - 07:48 PM

Thanks Ray Ray.

 

Also, any time I can support my favorite raceways, I will. 


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Posted 21 January 2013 - 07:55 PM

After running the cars for a whole race on Saturday, my thoughts are rim width, along with looking good, runs fine.

So .575" max width on the rears, .375" minimum width on the fronts, 1.000" minimum dia. on both.

.050" clearance, front and rear.


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Posted 21 January 2013 - 11:33 PM

These are VERY cool looking cars--I"m just not interested in .050 clearance front to back.  I'd rather build them for my home track with .020 in the front and .050 in the back to help with handling.  Love the cars and all the old paint schemes!! I'm thinking--"plumber" shaker style --or maybe even a "Z" rail car and Falcon II's for my home track.  Nice!!


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Posted 22 January 2013 - 12:18 AM

The thought of the even F-R clearances, was I was just trying to make jigging the axle height  easier, for these large size tires.

 

Guys are welcome to comment if they have a preference.

 

Also note the front could  be lowered at anytime by truing down the tires smaller.


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Posted 22 January 2013 - 04:08 PM

Mike,
Is there going to be a package deal we can get with every thing we need for the build? Or can you supply part #s so I can do a one stop shop from who will carry the body's.
Paul,
It will be fun to have a car race along side my mentor Pablo.
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Posted 22 January 2013 - 04:27 PM

:) It is easier to build with even clearance front to back.  The .050 works well on the Retro stock cars.  They handle great even with the big heavy body so these should be no problem at that clearance IMO. Keep it simple!!!


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Posted 22 January 2013 - 04:31 PM

Level front to rear eliminates the need for tongue tilt.  I like it.

 

Hi Paul J.  This is gonna be a hoot ! :D


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Posted 22 January 2013 - 04:31 PM

The chassis we raced Saturday have .030 front clearance and .060 rear for the Z-railer. The other has

.023 front clearance and .060 rear. We should think about track width. Mine are at 3,125 wide for appearance

sake. 3 1/4 tends to look too wide. I started at 3 " even, the same as the resin bodied cars I built. I did not see

any great improvement when I widened them out.



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Posted 22 January 2013 - 04:42 PM

Ha Pablo,
Hows it going. Getting all my things ready for this build. Can't wait to see all the cars.
Hope CLR has all the parts and body. As my building skills are getting better just keep soldering away and learning new tricks as I go.
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Posted 22 January 2013 - 05:04 PM

Paul J,

You must of missed this:

http://slotblog.net/...goland-raceway/

 

It includes all the main parts, but I also can supply the misc. minor parts such as lead wire, braid, guide clips and nut, if necessary.


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Posted 22 January 2013 - 05:54 PM

Mike,
I would like one complete kit please,
Who can I make the payment to? Pp yes. Is it possible to get an extra body?
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Posted 22 January 2013 - 06:01 PM

Now waitaminnut.  I ain't even got mine yet !

 

Mike PLEASE take our money !!!  :laugh2:


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Posted 22 January 2013 - 07:44 PM

Pablo,

You (and others) have to decide if you want to wait for the optional resin driver/interior, or get your kit and start building now.


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Posted 22 January 2013 - 08:06 PM

What do ya say Pablo let's go max .
Mike how long till there out with resin extras?
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Posted 22 January 2013 - 08:10 PM

The chassis we raced Saturday have .030 front clearance and .060 rear for the Z-railer. The other has

.023 front clearance and .060 rear. We should think about track width. Mine are at 3,125 wide for appearance

sake. 3 1/4 tends to look too wide. I started at 3 " even, the same as the resin bodied cars I built. I did not see

any great improvement when I widened them out.

The Z-railer handled great with .090" total clearance F & R. A tad more in the front shouldn't make a big enough difference to matter,

so I'm going to stick with my original plan of .050" , F & R.

 

3.125" sounds fine for the track width.


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Posted 22 January 2013 - 08:31 PM

I'll wait for the complete kit.

Also the complete details in one place: Rules, deadlines, details, etc. which I am sure Mike is working on.


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Posted 23 January 2013 - 04:28 AM

Me too,

 

Also need to know when they need to be there to see if i can fit it in.


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Posted 23 January 2013 - 10:32 AM

How many proxies are you planning to enter Jaak?  :victory:


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Posted 23 January 2013 - 01:33 PM

How much is the it and when is the proxy event?


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