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#26 gotboostedvr6

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Posted 12 March 2013 - 09:11 AM

You guys are all full of it if you think you get more then one full good race out of any FK motor. Even on low voltage.

 

I have a pile of one race motors staring at me that illustrate my point.

 

Ive heard more then once a great racer wish they didn't run that "strong" falcon motor "one more time".


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Posted 12 March 2013 - 09:16 AM

I've learned that our track in CO runs 13.4 -13.6 volts. I don't know how long it has been that way but it might be time to turn it down if it means saving motors.

 

Mike, thanks for the input and the correction. We tried PD motors here but no one seemed to like them on our track. Last RMRRA race (this past weekend), 1st and 2nd in Can Am were PD motors, finding favor now just because of the reliability and scarcity issues with the Falcon 7 (our track owner says he can't get them through his distributors and I only like to buy through him).

 

Now that I have read your Marketplace posts on the OWH site, I am encouraging our track owner to start bringing in some of the cooler Chicagoland parts.

 

Keep it in the slot,


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Besides, where would I even begin?   I should probably start with my wife ...

 

"I don't often get very many "fast laps" but I very often get many laps quickly." 

 

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Posted 12 March 2013 - 09:18 AM

gotboostedvr6, on 12 Mar 2013 - 2:11 PM, said:

You guys are all full of it if you think you get more then one full good race out of any FK motor. Even on low voltage.

 

I have a pile of one race motors staring at me that illustrate my point.

 

Ive heard more then once a great racer wish they didn't run that "strong" falcon motor "one more time".

 

It all depends on the track and power.

 

Guys use to get 10+ races on F7's on my flat track.


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Posted 12 March 2013 - 09:22 AM

There are the "guys" then there are the "racers"

 

To each there own.


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Posted 12 March 2013 - 09:27 AM

These "guys" were winning races and setting fast time of the race.

 

Running a proper gear ratio for good punch and brakes on a flat track with 12.0V is way different

than gearing something on the edge to get every bit of bank speed on a fast track, on 14V.


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Posted 12 March 2013 - 09:27 AM

I have older motors that STILL run competitively (dyno well, too) after 7 or 8 races (the two I got from the Sano IV at Chicagoland come to mind), but I can't see enough motor brush to trust them for even one more race.

 

I consider myself a "guy" who occasionally runs competitively in our races in CO (but gets smothered at the bigger races).

 

I really need to verify the voltage at our track - that might be what it killing the newer motors...

 

But these were older motors...which is my main point. Again, here's to hoping the quality of the new motors matches the older tagged motors.

 

Keep it in the slot,

 

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Sorry about the nerf. "Sorry? Sorry? There's no apologizing in slot car racing!" 

Besides, where would I even begin?   I should probably start with my wife ...

 

"I don't often get very many "fast laps" but I very often get many laps quickly." 

 

The only thing I know about slot cars is if I had a good time when I leave the building! I can count the times I didn't on one two three hands!

Former Home Track - Slot Car Speedway and Hobbies, Longmont, CO (now at Duffy's Raceway), Noteworthy for the 155' Hillclimb track featuring the THUNDER-DONUT - "Two men enter; one man leaves!"


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Posted 12 March 2013 - 09:56 PM

Don't hold your breath. The new evil 9 is not much better. A little bit more speed that's about all. The most I've ever got out of one motor is 3 races. Honestly they all lose there breaks after about 2 heats. Then you really have to drive them. I really think everything should be switched to a c can. Easy to build and rebuild and way better breaks. Just limit the arms to even the field. One good thing about the fk motors is it teaches you how to drive but it gets old buying motors every week. I've heard that using these falcons and evil9s is a way to keep the cost down but if you're buying motors every week it gets expensive.
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Posted 12 March 2013 - 11:31 PM

Mike's right--if you're running on a KIng track at 13.6 volts and gearing to the moon for speed--you'll be lucky to get ONE race out of a motor.  On the BPR MTT Flat track--I've run the SAME motor in the A or B mains and podiumed multiple times over 4 to 5 races!    But we also run that track around 12.8 volts.  IF you abuse the motor--it won't last!! FWIW


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Posted 25 March 2013 - 04:42 PM

Is there any new news about the new Falcon 7 motor? 


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Posted 25 March 2013 - 06:57 PM

The old F-7s were getting hard to find for a little while so that must mean the new stock is ready to ship.Me thinks they want to dry up the old stuff so they're not stuck w/obsolete remote mirror motors.Just MHO.
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Posted 25 March 2013 - 08:02 PM

Samiam, on 25 Mar 2013 - 11:57 PM, said:

The old F-7s were getting hard to find for a little while so that must mean the new stock is ready to ship.Me thinks they want to dry up the old stuff so they're not stuck w/obsolete remote mirror motors.Just MHO.


Well you should show up and race the Stock cars this week and help use up the old stock.
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