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[Anthony Grimaldi]

Well that was cool that is the track I raced on 9 years ago. The group 12 I think it was pro stock they were as fast as my last car. I'm still really confused on what I'm looking at in the show case there were mostly roller group 12 and group 27 was about $150 through $225 and the motor were very expensive to $80 through $350. I was looking at slotcarcity web site and u can get a group 12 box stock car complete rtr for $180 through $225. I'm not looking to race or compete I have to Many over Hobbes to start competing i plane to go there every Wednesday with my dad and ( practice ) for 1 to 2 hours here the link for slotcarcity please let me know what would be a good car to buy out of the 17 cars


http://www.slotcarci...php?category=32

[John Streisguth]

Although I can't comment on how good those cars may be as I haven't raced wing cars since the early 90's, I do want to stress how important it is to support your local raceway.  So buying from Port Jeff is maybe another $20 or so?  Isn't that worth it to help ensure you'll have a place to go play with your new toy?  Plus SCC doesn't tell you how much the shipping cost is until you actually commit to the purchase...that's not a fair business practice IMO.  Chances are the cost difference will be negligible.

 

If you insist on buying mail order, that's your business, but I won't help with that when you have a raceway right there you can be buying from.

[slotcarone]

Anthony if you want a place to race your cars you need to support the raceway like John says. Go there when there is not a big event going on and I am sure you will find what you want at the price you want to spend. If you just want to play there is used cars that will be just fine and at least you will know who it comes from when you get it locally. I suggest if you want to play for hours like you stated you get something other that a wing car. Try a retro car with a JK retro Hawk motor--much more fun IMO!!!

[Half Fast]

Also don't go whining to your local raceway when your mail order car needs fixing. If you don't support him where are you going to race when he's gone!

 

Cheers

[Anthony Grimaldi]

U know I never should of crashed that car becase instead of comeing back into the hobby and having fun it's turned into major hell I'm in a position that I never been in on any of my over hobbies I been on this form form for 3 days and went to two tracks and still don't know what I'm looking for. ur telling me u won't give any advice becase I'm not buying the car at port jeff the slot cars there are triple the price even if they were rtr and they don't need me to support them going there once a week should be enough they have people coming from across the world to race there they can support them . My Onist option is slot car city may be online it may be in larva gas but each of there rtr cars have labeled what ur buying if I can't get a answer I'm going to look at all 17 car and go eenu meeny miny moe and just chose one . I do support port jeff but I can't spend that much money to make sure they stay here

[Samiam]

Anthony,

 On evil-bay it is the same as anywhere else. Buyer Beware. If you just want to fool around and use the cars as toys then go ahead and try a cheap car on Evil bay. Most of what I have seen on there is 15 year old stuff that is non competitive today. But if you are not racing then go for it. The cars may need to be completely gone over before they can be used. Motors should be disassembled and cleaned before any power is put to them. Don't pay big money on anything there. That way you have little to lose if it ends up being a pile of bent up crap.

[Gator Bob]

Hold up Anthony!

 

We are trying to help you ..... AND the hobby.

How the hell do you expect us to advise you on what YOU want if you don't even know yourself?

 

Reset:

Take the car you show in the first post to your local track, if it runs, then Run It! If it doesn't run let them tell you what is wrong with it.

That is a car that is already too fast for you. Going out and buying another and not knowing anything about these cars is a waste of your or your dad's money.

 

If you insist on a 'new car' then buy the most expensive one ... it will be the fastest you can buy until you smash it up.

 

Here I picked one for you-

 

Koford "Ultra Beuf Express" w/ MickA Kelly Hybrid B20 H.P.! #KofordMAHy20RTR
Koford Ultra Beuf Express-Gr20 - Ult Beuf Express-Gr20 w/can, EB & axle bearings 224.95 224.95

[Anthony Grimaldi]

Thanks gator bob for ur advice I never ment to come out as a mean person I'm srry I was just getting frustrated. I have been doing a lot of research on all the groups and I'm going to be honest I said in on the first post of the form how I got into this well I miss under stoud my dad know don't look at me as a beginner just becase I can tell what's the fastest car doesn't mean that I am a very good drive I'm consistent and don't fall off know here the really what happened my dad was always into slot cars ( whomp car ) becase that's what he grew up around one day he dissided he wanted to get a wing car I was 6 years old at the time he spent about $135 back then that was more money and he got the green car the one of have pics of the people sad the car was to fast for the track and we switched to wat is know port jeff port jeff moved there back then they were over an hour away one day as I was driving my flexi car I ask him if I can drive it ( 6 years old) this is the port jeff tracking came around the last turn nailed it and exploded the motor picture the stright the 90 degree turn that's were Ianched it thats all I remember well my dad had the people install the same motor and my dad drove the car for one hour and the motor melted they had the voltage set to high the people said it was are fault and that was it my dad had them installed the engine which is what u see know and got out of the hobby know I'm older and want to come back into the hobby and spend (my money) to get or bring my car back to what it was my dad thinks it was some kind of group 20 motor that was originally in the car. I'm not the kind of person who going to walk into port jeff raceway and bring a truck load of tools and tune my car for the fastest time I bring wats need couple extra tools and is look at my time and say that's good then may be go a little faster through that Conor I'm not looking to buy second had eBay crap. I'm looking for options like gator bob did know koford ultra beuf is a good car so when I walk up to the glass counter and staring like I have 3 heads know I know the green car is a flexi car whitch was my first car it had a wing body but becase I was 6 I destroyed it so it has that body

[gotboostedvr6]

Anthony,

How old are you?

Dave

[Samiam]

Anthony,

 Try some cars with out wings first. You learn how to drive these and wing cars are a breeze. PJR runs a flexi class running built 16Ds. The Retro cars are also a lot of fun. Wing cars are fast but it has always been a race of dollars. Do you plan on racing?

[Anthony Grimaldi]

I'm not looking to race I know what a wasp motor is going get my self a mikea/ group 20 blue printed balanced motor that's proably faster then the group 20 that was on there I will have the people from port jeff install it and il be back in business thanks for all the help I think I'm going to get the 3 hour long vide on slotcarcity to even better my under standings of group 12 cars

[PCH Parts Express]

A new Koford ready to run group 12 wing car (Box Stock) for about 150.00 - 192.00 would be a safe choice. Then maybe get some spare rear tires.

 

Alpha 611WR-M (or similar)(about 10.50). This should make the car run cooler and faster. The Koford Wing Car Group 20 ready to run car (150.00 - 192.00) is also reasonably priced. The Group 12 car will handle better. The Group 20 will run a bit faster in the straights.  

[Samiam]

PJR runs Box 12 races in spray glue. That would be my choice.

[Anthony Grimaldi]

Pch are you talking about this car

https://www.e-slotca...sst-paint-jobs/

[PCH Parts Express]

Yes. Then later you could upgrade the car with a Hi-Speed pre-mount body if you wanted.

[Anthony Grimaldi]

That's a nice car I think I know the answer but I have to ask it's faster then a supper wasp Motor. if it has a group 12 motor on it should be

[PCH Parts Express]

Yes. Group 12 is faster than a Super Wasp. 

[deslot27]

You also have to remember that these motors will wear out eventually and have to be rebuilt and the arm rebalanced. I would go with a known used motor that has already been run, and has been rebuilt by a pro. That way you know you have a good motor and arm to start with, and it should last a little  longer than a new one. I have box motors that I built and ones that I have had made for a specific race. They  ranged from $90 to $160. The more the money the faster they are in my case.

[Anthony Grimaldi]

If I were to switch the motor do u think port jeff can do wile I'm there or do I have to drop it off

[Gator Bob]

Scott,

Are you the resident New Car Salesman? LOL... The kid doesn't need a new car he just needs some freakin help.

 

AntKnee,

You don't need a new car ... I tell ya what, you pay the shipping here and back and I'll straighten out your car, rebuild the motor and put a new arm in it.. No Charge.

[deslot27]

Anthony, they should be able to change out a motor in like 1 minute. Its really easy, when practiced.

[Gator Bob]

AntKnee,

 

From your PM I understand why you don't want to send the car, so lets go with this option:

 

Order this motor at port jeff and have them install it.

 

http://parmapse.shpt...ot-motors?pp=25

 

This is as fast as you can go for the least amount of money and start to build a relationship with the owners at your local track.

 

Hope that helps.

[Anthony Grimaldi]

Thanks guys for all ur help i will be going to port jeff on Wednesday night and even if I have to order the motor I'm still going to have fun keep u guys posted thanks again gn

[PCH Parts Express]

Scott,

Are you the resident New Car Salesman? LOL... The kid doesn't need a new car he just needs some freakin help.

 

AntKnee,

You don't need a new car ... I tell ya what, you pay the shipping here and back and I'll straighten out your car, rebuild the motor and put a new arm in it.. No Charge.

Anthony wrote this in post #1.

 

"I was looking not to upgrade this car but to buy a new car but I don't know what to look for."

 

Also he asked me using the PM system about new cars. And what cars would be good to look at.  

 

  

[Gator Bob]

Scott,

Just bustin BBs .. like when I call ya .. it works both ways.