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#51 don.siegel

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Posted 06 March 2014 - 06:18 PM

John's chassis is a Cox, looks like it's been modified a bit. 

 

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Posted 06 March 2014 - 06:47 PM

Just wait! It was a killer Can-Am vintage racer. Very smooth and pulled forever,just no brakes.


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Posted 06 March 2014 - 07:57 PM

Just wait! It was a killer Can-Am vintage racer. Very smooth and pulled forever,just no brakes.

Hopefully there's enough shut down area then :shok: Sounds like it should have enough oomph!

 

Nice trophy Bob!



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Posted 07 March 2014 - 01:05 AM

Help -

 

I went through ALL my brass Kemtron chassis stuff and cannot come up with a mount for a DC-85A.

 

Does anyone have one of these mounting brackets set-ups or alternates like Speedway or other brass options?

 

Never mind :blush:  .. I found an NOS 1601E "Frame End" (pair).

 

Interesting ... written on the Kemtron header card is " Hold for Corkey" and Ideas who that is?

 

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Found it !

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Posted 08 March 2014 - 08:21 PM

I've also got an extra pack or two of the Russkit dragster rims if you want those Dennis...

 

Don

What is the diameter on those rims? German donuts I can get need a .750" wheel.


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Posted 08 March 2014 - 08:55 PM

Dennis,

I thought for sure that the big Classic six spoke 5/40 wheels would work for you ... but ... just checked, they come in at .720

 

Can't put my hands on the Russkit set screw under the tire wheels .. they rather large. 

 

The Dynamic chrome plated five spoke 5/40 drag wheels come in at .955

 

And ... what ever these threaded wheels are ... .758 minor / ..895 major dia.

 

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Posted 09 March 2014 - 05:28 AM

The Russkit dragster wheels are 3/4" diameter including the flange (measured outside a sealed pack). Diameter where the tire seats looks about 11/16". Width: 13/32", inside flanges: 5/16", overall 9/16" (pack wasn't so sealed after all!). 

 

Hope that will work for you. 

 

Don 

 

PS: Dennis, I'm pretty sure these Russkit rims were sized for the standard German tires of the time - altho the real Germans had to have the inner diameter reamed out a bit... the ones later released by the slot manufacturers did that part for you, and probably removed the skin too! 



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Posted 10 March 2014 - 02:29 PM

Thank you Don. If I can get a pair that would be really swell.

I had a bid last night on a set of bearing dragster fronts, but somebody else got them.

Made them pay 40bux for them. . .hope they choke on them.


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Posted 10 March 2014 - 02:47 PM

Which type fronts Foamy?

K&B?


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Posted 10 March 2014 - 03:33 PM

Found some Classic Viper rears that are 1 1/8 and pretty soft. Will touch them up and see!


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Posted 10 March 2014 - 03:38 PM

Heck yeah .. The Classic 'Jumbo' Viper tires are still soft and the tall skinny six spoke Manta Ray/Toronado tires are open cell German rubber. 

 

I got some if 'any y'all' need a pair.


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Posted 10 March 2014 - 03:47 PM

I had a bid last night on a set of bearing dragster fronts, but somebody else got them.

Made them pay 40bux for them. . .hope they choke on them.

Are these of any use? EJs has them listed.

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Posted 10 March 2014 - 04:03 PM

I've never seen those Strombecker BB versions but I can say that the Champ/Series wheel have beautiful chrome plating that the image doesn't show too well..

 

Thanks for posting those Steve.

 

Might work/look fine on a bodied car. 


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Posted 10 March 2014 - 04:27 PM

The front wheels were 7/8" K&B bearing dragster fronts with a couple pair of other rear tires.

The Strombecker fronts are not o-ring style.


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Posted 10 March 2014 - 04:33 PM

Dennis, send me your address in a PM and I'll send the Russkit wheels to you... 

 

Cheers, 

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Posted 10 March 2014 - 11:10 PM

FYI ... 119 hours and 50 minutes till registration for this event closes.

 

Get on the list by confirming here in this thread or through a PM to me.

 

Welcome to George Blaha!


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Posted 11 March 2014 - 09:08 AM

I am planning to send a couple of cars.


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Posted 11 March 2014 - 12:58 PM

Great, I was hoping you were officially going to join in. :good:

 

Welcome David !


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Posted 11 March 2014 - 08:14 PM

No Drama ... LOL

 

Just a reminder time to register is running out.


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Posted 12 March 2014 - 07:29 PM

Found this random link which contains some color pictures of the magwinders etc from the very R&C drag races , still owned :D

 

Link courtesy of Bracket500 slot drag racing site.

 

Vintage Rails


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Posted 13 March 2014 - 07:00 AM

Excellent Paul, thanks for posting!

 

Good to see that Manuel Maldonado is still around - he built some of the most beautiful dragsters in the mid-60s.

 

Don

 

PS: any way of contacting this group to let them know about the proxy?


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Posted 13 March 2014 - 09:38 AM

You're welcome Don :) found it on a web search for slot dragsters.

Maybe pm John Cukras on here as he's mentioned & pictured in that link?
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Posted 13 March 2014 - 10:27 AM

Thanks Paul, Great link , racers and cars!!!

 

Don, I'm on it ... contacted the admin DVan late last night and he is good with posting our event on his site.

I am have some difficulty logging in but we are working on it.


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Posted 13 March 2014 - 11:10 AM

You're welcome Bob :)

 

 

On another search for info on the DC85 & RAM 850/857 came across another bracket500 link that has discussion and a diagram on motor end plate/lamination shaping :D

 

Even has where the poster fitted a bunch of Neo magnets in a RAM with shaped endplates etc ! I know Neo's aren't allowed but shows what can be done & would sure make for a wild ride!

 

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Endplate and Neos


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Posted 13 March 2014 - 02:09 PM

I'm talking with the moderator over on http://bracket500.com/.

There is definite interest in this proxy from these hardcore slot drag guys.


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Posted 13 March 2014 - 03:02 PM

Welcome to the entry of DVan  who is a regular drag racer at Eddies in Northern California and he is the Bracket500.com site manager.
 
This car was created from a vintage magazine build-up story. The gear and tires will be changed out for vintage components to make the cool old Merc. legal for this race.
 
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Posted 13 March 2014 - 04:30 PM

This is such a great idea for a proxy!
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Posted 13 March 2014 - 04:58 PM

Great news Bob! Should be intriguing /exciting & intimidating to see what cars they bring to the track! :D :shok: :laugh2:



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Posted 13 March 2014 - 05:40 PM

This is such a great idea for a proxy!

Thanks David ... you should join .. being fast is only a small part of the fun factor.

 

 

Not legal for this one but ...Check out this very sweet, not overdone but genuine kinda ride :D

http://bracket500.co...o/dragster.html

 


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Posted 13 March 2014 - 05:56 PM

Hopefully this will be a recurring event. 


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Posted 13 March 2014 - 06:07 PM

Photo Credit to Bill Bilancio of Florida

Bill vintage ride.JPG

 

Check out his site for killer modern drag parts

 http://www.badracing9.com/

 

 

 


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Posted 13 March 2014 - 06:10 PM

I love the motor box.

 

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Posted 13 March 2014 - 06:16 PM

Wow! Those are some seriously hardcore slot drag parts! :heart: Sure beats some badly soldered mess!!



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Posted 13 March 2014 - 06:24 PM

For REAL !!! :shok:

 

I'm trying to get to Bill to see if he wants to come over and play :to_become_senile:


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Posted 14 March 2014 - 01:30 AM

I came up with an event poster :D

 

 

 

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Posted 14 March 2014 - 04:05 AM

Pretty scary Bob.

 

You're going to get some mighty strange entries...

 

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Posted 14 March 2014 - 09:24 AM

Bob, great ideas on the trophy and poster. Very neat.

 

Who thought of this whole thing anyway? See post #6 of concept born here.

 

Gump, you're a friggin' genius :D

 

Anyway, enough of that. Here are some pics of various chassis combinations for those still contemplating. Probably have some more, let me know if you want to see em'

 

Padlock a GO-GO!

 

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And sadly, some not invited to play. Do I smell an everything but padlock proxy coming up next? :victory:

 

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Posted 14 March 2014 - 09:36 AM

Wow Joe!!! Those are some Kool padlock cars/chassis you got there! You've got your own racing team ready :D
Any of these your actual entry/s ?

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Posted 14 March 2014 - 11:02 PM

Pretty scary Bob.

 

You're going to get some mighty strange entries...

 

Don

 

LOL .. that's to get all the 'horror' out of the way so we can have a 'No Fear' drag race.

There will be some wild and weird rides out coming out for the fun of it .. Racin the way it outta be.    

Bob, great ideas on the trophy and poster. Very neat.

 

Thanks Joe, The poster is like an old science fiction magazine cover from the Flash Gorden days.

 

Who thought of this whole thing anyway? See post #6 of concept born here.

 

You did and I ran with it ... Thanks for the idea !!!

 

Gump, you're a friggin' genius :D

 

Anyway, enough of that. Here are some pics of various chassis combinations for those still contemplating. Probably have some more, let me know if you want to see em'

 

Post them, show them, sell them, rent them, loan them.

 

Padlock a GO-GO! 

Heck yeah ..

Milner, un-cork the headers, put your pack of smokes in your T shirt sleeve and play this one the AM radio on the way out to Paradise Rd.

 

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And sadly, some not invited to play. Do I smell an everything but padlock proxy coming up next? :victory:

 

Lets see how this one goes but I have some great ideas for the 'Can Can'  follow up. :D 

 

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Posted 14 March 2014 - 11:31 PM

Reminder --->  Last Call


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Posted 15 March 2014 - 01:01 PM

Get your name entered!

 

Procedure for 'setting the field' ;

 

  • Registration closes at midnight tonight 3/15/2014.
  • The alternates will move up into the top 16
  • Registered racers are to PM me and advise of the total number of cars they would like to enter.
  • I will set the field with parity and fairness to provide equal opportunity for all the registrants.
  • If there are any no-show entries the field will be filled from the pool of cars that have been put on the 'back-up alternate' list.
  • The 'back-up alternate' list will be created by a first reply/first request for multiple entry requests.
  • Multiply entry guys please be prepared for notice of inclusion based on no shows.
  • I will set the date for receipt of the cars with consideration to maximum build time and with allowance for back-up alternate shipping time.
  • A tracking number scan by the shipper will be the timestamp when it is shown as received at the shipping point (FOB) 

 

I hope that is clear and concise, if there are and questions or suggestions please respond here or through a PM.

 

Thanks to everyone that got behind this event and has confirmed an entry.


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Posted 15 March 2014 - 10:02 PM

Last bump .... Please, I think I gave fair warning.

 

Less than one hour to get signed up.

 

Registration was officially closed.


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Posted 17 March 2014 - 05:10 PM

Padlock Motors.... The story. .... so ...... far :shok: :D

 

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More coming soon to a build thread & the drag strip :good:



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Posted 18 March 2014 - 05:19 AM

Holy Cow, Paul E. ...  :shok:

You are a daring young man, :crazy:  I wouldn't know what goes with what or how to put it all back together :wacko2:

Where is the Master Key for all those Locks :o  :laugh2:


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Posted 18 March 2014 - 06:26 AM

Haven't got a clue to be honest :laugh2: just winging it !

First time messing with these beasts but once you look at em & strip the things down you can see where stuff goes..advice is definitely to take pictures at each stage !!!!

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Posted 18 March 2014 - 08:55 AM

Got this in the mail Monday. . .

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Posted 18 March 2014 - 01:03 PM

Here is my first preliminary mock up. I could have started with all new parts. I decided to go with the Powered By Junk mantra :) With a few exceptions, gears, leads and braids I intend to use all old junk to create my car.

 

Starting with a poorly started AMT '32 coupe with the wrong grille shell, a hacked on Dynamic frame, a rusty Kemtron 6 volter, cut "Grops" on Corben wheels, front drag wheels with bearings etc.

 

I was thinking of hacking the hood to expose those 6 deuces. I will have it tough staying within the 3 1/4" inch rule but I think I can squeeze it. 

 

Before I go any further, is everything here acceptable per the rules? I may just need an extra 1/8" over that 3 1/4". Any objections?

 

 

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Now for a paint scheme. Was thinking all shiny but I may leave everything rusty and crusty and go with Matte black. Easier for me in the long run.

 

Page down and take a look at some of these :heart: Even if you hate drag cars you just can't hate these.

 

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Posted 18 March 2014 - 04:02 PM

Joe, chop the top and make it look a bit like Dan the Man's 5 window.

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Posted 18 March 2014 - 06:37 PM

Steve, don't go making any more work for me :dash2: Never saw that pic before. The internet is actually good for some things. I have the fenders but I like the "in the weeds" look better.


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Posted 18 March 2014 - 07:26 PM

Really looks the part Joe :D I'm having issues just choosing what body/ies to use :laugh2:

Rail,rod,gasser the decisions continue :shok:





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