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#51 Noose

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Posted 14 December 2014 - 07:46 PM

Looks good, Ward.

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Posted 14 December 2014 - 07:51 PM

Now that's something we really need!! Looks great!! :)


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Posted 14 December 2014 - 07:56 PM

Now that is one sweet-looking F1 chassis :good: Nice and simple design.

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Posted 14 December 2014 - 08:17 PM

Looks like it would work on any kind of track. Sweet.
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Posted 14 December 2014 - 08:18 PM

Real fine kit there! Ill have me one of these soon!

Nice work there, Duffy! Now get some parts made for the masses.

Thanks for posting picture.
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Posted 14 December 2014 - 09:57 PM

Patiently waiting for my own Death Otter F1. I'm sure it will be nothing short of perfection.


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Posted 14 December 2014 - 10:00 PM

Oooohhhh, shiny.
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Posted 14 December 2014 - 10:10 PM

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Posted 14 December 2014 - 10:24 PM

Pure EVIL! :diablo:
 
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Posted 15 December 2014 - 08:08 AM

Ran this to the Am Main at Fast Tracks. Previously noted as my back-up car at the Sano.
 
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Posted 15 December 2014 - 11:31 AM

Chris Gambler qualed into the B in Can-Am in a JJ built Beaver. Said it handled great.

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Posted 15 December 2014 - 11:42 AM

All American Beaver.


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Posted 15 December 2014 - 11:43 AM

Hey, where did I see that before. LOL... Very nice job, John...
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Posted 16 December 2014 - 07:29 AM

I saw two War Beaver chassis kits in the case at The Race Place in Holly Hill... nice!  

Won't be long and I'll be needing some Retro goodies.  :shok:

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Posted 16 December 2014 - 07:43 AM

Anything you need to know to get up and running feel free to ask me. Always glad to help a new racer. Then after you are up to speed you're on your own. LOL...
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Posted 16 December 2014 - 12:08 PM

Chris Gambler qualed the B in can am in a JJ built beaver .. Said it handled great


Simple, solid, fast... A great design...
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Posted 17 December 2014 - 05:50 PM

Duffy,
 
I want to thank you for the time you took to bring the War Beaver chassis kit to market. Since I started building Retro chassis off and on from 2008, yours is the most complete, comprehensive kit I have seen on the market. The parts are nicely cut, flat, and require virtually no straightening or major reworking from the average builders standpoint.
 
Though I am far from what I call a "pretty builder", my stuff usually seems to last pretty well, though my solder joints aren't picturesque like some. Would probably look better if I had a tumbler to use, but can't afford one living on workman's comp.
 
I can see in the very near future putting several of these together for racers at our track who want to run GRRR races and have a good reliable chassis that can take a beating, and with Duffy's design and workmanship put into the kit, a good buildup is less than a couple of hours work, even for a hack like me. 
 
So here is my offering, 50.0 grams of stock build War Beaver, waiting on a front axle and rear bearings (waiting on two orders to come in). Should give about a 102 gram car fully rigged out and ready to race. 4-1/16" Wheelbase with a 15/16" guide lead.
 
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Posted 17 December 2014 - 08:36 PM

Mike-

 

Nice "By the book" build the photo will be helpful to my build.

 

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Posted 17 December 2014 - 09:46 PM

46 grams for a King track.

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Posted 17 December 2014 - 11:29 PM

Tony,
 
What size wire did you use for the bite bar? Looks like .055"? And it free-floats through the square tubing (3/32"?) on the center rails and the pans? Only limited in side to side movement by the 1/16" collars? Looks amost similar to the bite bar setup on my old Yeti Group F chassis.
 
Looks like an interesting concept to copy for a second built (hey, I used to be a guitarist in bands, we copied technique from everybody).
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Posted 18 December 2014 - 07:05 AM

Yes, to all LOL.

If I use a bite bar I never solder it solid. The only Retro chassis I ever made with it soldered solid was the eight Retro East enduro chassis. I made them solid so if the pans started to drag you could tweak the bite bar a bit. If it floats you can't do this. Like it to float. One less thing to effect the flex of the center section.
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Posted 24 December 2014 - 10:41 AM

My GRRR backup enduro chassis. 47.7 grams. Never needed to set it up. Heading out to a customer Monday.

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Posted 24 December 2014 - 02:09 PM

That is nice, Tony.


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Posted 24 December 2014 - 03:05 PM

Thanks...


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Posted 24 December 2014 - 06:24 PM

Tony,

 

Is the center weight soldered to the bite bar?


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Posted 24 December 2014 - 09:10 PM

Yes.


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Posted 24 December 2014 - 11:58 PM

That's some "Evil Beaver" right there. They came out masterful, Tony.

 

Correct me if I'm wrong but to MR questions and to 'elaborate' on your statement. "One less thing to effect the flex of the center section.".

 

The floating bit bar in a box lets the main rails flex more translating to bite.

Also... under bite (vertical torsional rail flex) the hinged pans lift later than if the bite bar is fixed to the main rails... and... the pans can tip up with a delayed/less pronounced lift effect on the main rails. Also... under braking the down flex of the main rails still let the pan lift in the corner, ... should be able to drive it in deeper.

 

The chassis in #72 adds another major 'dynamic' to the bite bars weighted effect. When the car hits the bank it holds the bar (-pans) down.

 

I can't tell from the picture but if there is some side play at the front center pivot... then... um... on a flat (or those tricky off camber) tracks 'all bets are off'... LOL.

 

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Posted 25 December 2014 - 07:42 AM

Looks beautiful!! Isn't that considered a centerline hinge? I feel the can of worms opening!!


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Posted 25 December 2014 - 08:41 AM

It doesn't rotate. Center hinge applies to center section. It just moves side to side.

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Posted 25 December 2014 - 08:47 AM

Plus it's solid to the tube.


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Posted 25 December 2014 - 04:04 PM

Plus (or minus) it is .001" off the true center.  :D

 

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Posted 25 December 2014 - 04:15 PM

As long as the main rails don't rotate around it, it's not a center hinge... just a center weight.


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Posted 25 December 2014 - 06:36 PM

Bada-bing.


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Posted 06 January 2015 - 02:11 PM

Did some testing with a shrunken Beaver this past weekend. Very promising. I would say stay tuned! 


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Posted 06 January 2015 - 03:08 PM

A "shrunken Beaver"... that sounds interesting or maybe obscene. :o

 

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Posted 06 January 2015 - 03:11 PM

Sneak peak, Bill.
 
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Posted 06 January 2015 - 03:34 PM

Thanks, Noose. I was a little worried there. :)
 
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Posted 06 January 2015 - 06:49 PM

Update, guys - I was searching around for a new waterjet house, and have just secured one. We have some good ideas for how this kit will go together, and we gotta get the production design just right and produced to the high standard that you want.

we will be working towards getting stock for these in the next few weeks. Hang tight just a bit more...
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Posted 07 January 2015 - 08:55 AM

Here is the Shrunken Beaver in race form. As noted, it ran great and some fine tuning will be done. As it weighed 105 grams, no lead. 

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Posted 07 January 2015 - 09:39 AM

Ohhh, you make my stuff look sooo goood.
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Posted 07 January 2015 - 09:47 AM

Remember, a house is only as good as its foundation. :)
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Posted 07 January 2015 - 11:15 AM

Or its women.
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Posted 07 January 2015 - 12:20 PM

Very nice put together design!

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Posted 07 January 2015 - 01:21 PM

Will be running the "Wally Beaver" #127 at the Checkpoint!

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Posted 07 January 2015 - 01:30 PM

Mike,

I would like to see a full picture of your interesting War Beaver build.
 
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Posted 07 January 2015 - 02:36 PM

The "Wally Beaver" is from the skilled hands of Mr. Duffy himself.

Will post full chassis shots later, have to get some zzzs... up all night getting "Wally" together for the Checkpoint race.
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Posted 07 January 2015 - 09:11 PM

You are going to like it, Mike. They are good right out of the box, but really seem to come into their own after a few races. Both of mine seem to get that much better every time I run them.
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Posted 10 January 2015 - 07:11 PM

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Posted 11 January 2015 - 09:43 AM

Can-Am Plus for Mr. Noose. 40.1 grams.

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Posted 31 January 2015 - 08:11 AM

Can-Am Plus for me. 93 grams. Three rails .055", .047" pans... HVR ball bearing fronts. Mclaren by Noose.

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