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#51 Jairus

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Posted 24 March 2015 - 06:48 PM

Ohhhhhhhh.... I like that one Matt!
Love how the rear axle is the pivot for the ISO. Simplicity at it's very best.


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Posted 24 March 2015 - 08:00 PM

Champion of Chamblee offered a rear axle pivot wire frame conversion kit to make a Dynamic into an 'Iso' .


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Posted 24 March 2015 - 08:10 PM

I had, maybe still have, one of those Champion wire Iso pieces set up with a Dynamic chassis. Bob, it didn't work for beans. I think that piece was designed for use with the Champion Smuggler chassis. Hopefully, it worked better with them.


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Posted 24 March 2015 - 09:37 PM

That sounds like them...lol

 

They were made for the Snuggler series but the packaging sez -works w/Dynamic.

It won't fit 16-36D SW carriers.

 

Never tried one.. yet 

Only the weight of the body on the front wheels if you install the body mounts on it, or if the stock 401 mounts are used on the motor carrier that would put too little weight on the 1/16th (IIRC) fronts. IMO

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Posted 24 March 2015 - 11:03 PM

The weak point of the Snuggler was the tongue.  It screwed to the endbell and was made of soft aluminum.
The motor bracket is also soft aluminum and that clipped to the can leaving the connection point two little motor tabs bent over.
But Bob is correct that the ISO could be used with the Dynamic chassis.

I have one, but never finished building it because I saw the weak points quickly and ended the whole process scratchbuilding something better.
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Posted 24 March 2015 - 11:58 PM

Those might suck but they are still ... like .. um pretty cool. :)

 

Using a 16D as a stress member never really worked out but the Champ is a better set up than an ASP or a Revell.

Put a blue 501 in there and it's a nice car. :good:

 

Jairus, What is the wheel base on that version.?

The ISO is much better than the screw type front upright bracket version.


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Posted 25 March 2015 - 12:23 AM

The drop arm Champion chassis w.b. is 3 and 3/4" while the Snuggler measures out to be 3 and 7/8" wheel base.


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Posted 07 April 2015 - 07:03 PM

Victor came through with his usual greatness!

 

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Dynamic Ferrari 330 P4 virtually perfect in every way.  This is the short nose version Rick showed us a ways back.

I also have a can drive motor bracket on it's way for this project along with a correct cast tongue.
Oh... and John Havlicek is winding a killer motor so things are progressing.

 

 

And now for something a little different:

 

Victor also sent along a test shot that will be going into the magazine.
This is the Lancer version in .030 with a beautiful correct fitting interior that I have never seen before.  I had to trim it some, but it fits the body exactly and looks perfect!
Even has a test shot resin drivers head included.

Sweet!!!!!

 

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Probably have to do a full tilt paint job for the retro guys here in the Pacific Northwest.


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Posted 12 May 2015 - 05:15 PM

Well, been a long time since I got a chance to work on this.  Other projects and working on articles for the magazine have gotten in the way. But after lunch I decided to do something for myself for a change.  I cut and mounted the Dynamic Ferrari 330 P4 body to fit my Dynamic Challenge chassis.
Yes, everything here is Dynamic including the motor!  It was originally a purple can FT16D motor that I had John Havlicek re-wind and paint for me.  It's bullet proofed, balanced and shimmed... and super powered to say the least! (Article on the motor forthcoming in issue #2 so no info here)
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Time to shoot some color and lay on some Dynamic decals.
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Posted 13 May 2015 - 04:10 PM

My kind of slot car.  Looking forward to seeing the finished product.  Dynamic's name for the non-rewind purple can motor was the "Mad Hornet".  I can't think of a more appropriate name for this John Havlicek rewound beast as it will sound like you stirred up a hornet's nest when you head down the straight.


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Posted 18 May 2015 - 08:49 PM

Finally finished this little Dynamic project.
Or did I?
At least one more car can be added to my Dynamic stable for now.
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The cool diecast wheels that inspired the project in the first place.
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Chassis features everything that was possible for correct handling at the time: Dynaflex front axle mount, drop arm tongue, ball bearings in the motor bracket and "sloppy sam" body mounts.  I even added a re-wound motor to top it all off!
But.... somehow I am not happy with the paint.

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So, I picked up this today.
It's a very KORRECT Dynamic sidewinder kit built but never run.
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Thinking now, about putting the red Dynamic red stock body on this chassis and painting another Dynamic True Scale repop Ferrari P4 body in a super cool Dave Bloom or Kovac's style with some hand lettering to make it extra special.
Because I am pretty sure this body is Lancer or some other scale looking piece and not correct Dynamic.

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Think I need to ruminate on this a while... :sorry:


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Posted 18 May 2015 - 09:07 PM

Very nice Jairus :good: :heart:

 

I especially like the way you left the back end of the car visible through the rear window.


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Posted 18 May 2015 - 10:18 PM

Great score on the super clean roller and body !

 

The two built are bout' perfect. Nice!


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Posted 19 May 2015 - 10:38 AM

 

But.... somehow I am not happy with the paint.............

 

I think it looks very nice Jairus. Maybe you want it to "pop" more?

 

You did this TrueScale Ferrari 330 for me a while back and I'm sure happy with it. It's a 60's Pro-car "fogged" version of Amon's original race car. I think it's cool.

 

Thanks again Jairus!

 

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Posted 19 May 2015 - 11:47 AM

Yup, that's what I'm planning, with a white stripe instead of the gold.  Got a second body here just in case.


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Posted 09 June 2015 - 12:35 PM

Upgrading!
This project is a work in progress as far as I am concerned.
But... been very busy. June is usually a very busy month with magazine deadlines, car shows and I even married off my youngest daughter so... it is surprising that I managed to squeeze in a few hours to shoot some color on another Dynamic Ferrari 330 body from True Scale.

Still needs some hand painting... but what I am most interested in was the acquisition of a package of (#754) Dynamic Roller Bearings! Never seen them before and they will be added to the chassis keeping with my original mission statement: "To build the best all Dynamic slot car possible using all Dynamic parts!"
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Enough playing around, time to get back to work.

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Posted 09 June 2015 - 03:54 PM

Hi Jairus,

 

It looks almost as nice as the one you did for me! :crazy:  Actually, I might even like it a bit better. The silver side window frames look cool.

 

Have you thought about painting the wheel centers maybe yellow sorta, kinka, likey so:

 

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Maybe just the wheel centers with a polished rim?

 

 


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Posted 12 June 2015 - 05:09 PM

Still thinking about the painted wheels Rick.  Options abound since this is a project in progress.

Car is upgraded now with new rear wheel bearings.

The process is as follows:
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The rear axle is removed and the use of a Dynamic bearing press required to remove the previous bearings.  That's unless you'd rather pound them out with a hammer of course. :crazy:

 

 

First:
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The Press is used like this in order to push the bearing into the cup.

 

Second:
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A spacer is inserted into the cup and the nut reversed in order to press the bearing into the uprights.

 

All back together.

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I swapped out the brass spacers for nylon spacers because the outside edge of the bearing cage will slide better over the nylon than a brass tube would.

I also inserted some bearing grease into the rollers and cage to ensure long life.... while sitting, on the shelf.... *eyeroll*

 

Can't really show the motor proper as John wrote an article about building it for the 2nd edition of Slot Cars Mag. The article will explain all and it's suppose to be in my mailbox any day!!! (he promised!)

 

But the paint however,  is now done!

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Went with a simple Dave Bloom fade and lettering.  Nothing special overall, but better than just basic red with numbers I think.
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Posted 12 June 2015 - 05:23 PM

Great looking car Jairus :good:

 

Those Dynamic bearing installation-removal tools are worth their weight in gold.

 

 

Still thinking about the painted wheels Rick.  Options abound since this is a project in progress.

 

More wheel color food for thought :crazy:

 

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Posted 12 June 2015 - 07:46 PM

What do you think of the roller bearings Jairus?

Love the paintwork, really finishes off this Dynamic challenge :D Loved following this build and it has made me look closer at the Dynamic parts haul to do similar :)

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Posted 12 June 2015 - 10:03 PM

What do you think of the roller bearings Jairus?

 

 

 

Honestly I think I should have left them sealed up in the original package.
But that would have been contrary to the theme of the build so, it had to be done.
The bearings are smooth. Very smooth.
But the inner race is the axle, meaning the axle itself will wear just as the roller bearings wear.
Not a huge problem because this car will run only a few laps as it is. (unless there is a proxy race.... hmmmm?)
But a good set of Chinese sealed bearings for the 1/8" axle would be better in the long run if a solid campaign were planned.

 

 

 

Those Dynamic bearing installation-removal tools are worth their weight in gold.

 

Yes they are Rick.  Used it quite a few times and even loaned it out twice.


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Posted 13 June 2015 - 03:23 PM

I was going to warn you about those Torrington rollers but out of 'fear' I didn't want to get 'negative' about your build.

 

Just like the flanged version used on the 'Cucs' ... they l00k like a good idea.  rollers .... :wacko2:

 

Plastic 'cage' (don't heat the axle), no inner race to set the spacers against  ... and they are 'sloppy' ID even when new.

I have some NOS/NIP in Cox (flanged) and Dynamic (un-flanged) Torrington rollers if any one is l00king.

 

Your car came out beautiful (nothing new there) :good: and since you asked.... yes, I'm interested in that All Dynamic Challenge proxy. Those Are fun. :D


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Posted 14 June 2015 - 07:27 AM

Jairus,  I have been looking at these builds and haven't posted until now because I wanted to see how they progressed, but I gotta say...WOW!!  I honestly didn't see anything wrong with the paint on the first body, but knowing that you are a professional artist and painter, you seek a higher level of perfection than most people.  The second body is just awesome, and the detail is one thing I miss from that time period of racing.

 

Heck, I miss a lot from that time period.  I raced a lot of Dynamic stuff as the chassis could be made to handle with relative ease, everyone stocked parts, and the chassis were reliable.  We ran a lot of Dynamic class races along the east coast down here.  I did change over a lot of the chassis to the roller bearings like you show, and I can remember not having a lot of issues with them, even in enduro racing that we did. Yeah, they did have more slop than the bushings, but were more reliable in long run racing.  I had a friend whose dad worked for a local aircraft company, and he gave me a small container of grease that they used in landing gears in his assembly plant.  It was a lot finer, and thinner grease than what was used on cars and it worked great in lubing those bearings. It stayed put and didn't make a mess.

 

Just wanted to say I enjoy the builds that you, Rick, Pablo and the other masters put up on the blog, and I look forward to seeing the writeup about the motor in the next issue.


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Posted 14 June 2015 - 03:51 PM

yes, I'm interested in that All Dynamic Challenge proxy. Those Are fun. :D


Do you mean including motor, rear tires, and body, too? (I guess anybody interested can chime in. I don't think that's what Jairus has going here.)

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Posted 14 June 2015 - 04:16 PM

 

 

Heck, I miss a lot from that time period.  I raced a lot of Dynamic stuff as the chassis could be made to handle with relative ease, 

 

  I did change over a lot of the chassis to the roller bearings like you show, and I can remember not having a lot of issues with them, even in enduro racing that we did. Yeah, they did have more slop than the bushings, but were more reliable in long run racing.  

 

Mike, If there was a proxy would you join?

 

IMO, The design of the bearing is like a good American company trying to make cheap imported stuff to compete. They accomplished that mission with a stamped housing and a plastic cage. It's functional but without having an inner race slot cars would be the wrong application.

 

If you don't use the stamped outer 'race' and create a lot of friction with large OD spacers up against them to solve the 'slop' then the axle just flops around ... take your pick.

 

I love them because they are our history even though I think they suck.


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