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Posted 28 April 2015 - 11:22 AM

If things stay the same, the endurance races are run as a minimum of 2 drivers per team. For the most part there were 2 man teams, with a couple three man teams. We find our own teammates. Last year, Dennis and Terry teamed up, and Matt and I teamed up.


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Posted 28 April 2015 - 12:25 PM

Fast Enduro Teammate Wanted - I will provide car(s) and any parts we need, and if we podium, I buy the race fees!  

B) Of course your name has to begin with one of these and can be no more than 6 letters in first name: T, D, M, or N  :pardon:

Are team mates required to be from the same home track? Let the lobbying begin!


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Posted 28 July 2015 - 05:59 PM

Due to the fact that it takes a long time to break-in the JK Retro Hawk, there is a tentative plan to pre-break-in the handout motors prior to the first race. What do you guys think? Is this beneficial?


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Posted 28 July 2015 - 08:20 PM

Not all Hawk Retro motors take the same time to break in.  I'd rather take my chances with a fresh motor.

 

And ..... from Terry's comments on Sunday, I presume we're committed to using a GTP body.


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Posted 28 July 2015 - 09:12 PM

The body issue was going to be my next post. Bill is on board to go with the GT Coupe body. Marcus seemed OK with it. You seem behind. Or has that changed?

I would prefer to go with the GT Coupe body also.


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Posted 29 July 2015 - 05:14 AM

I'm fine with either body. Might have been nice to have a change but we have , as usual, waited too long.

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Posted 29 July 2015 - 11:19 AM

We are 6 weeks away from the first endurance race. Besides, this conversation was started couple months back.


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Posted 29 July 2015 - 12:35 PM

C21 chassis, RH Motor, and which body now?


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Posted 29 July 2015 - 02:14 PM

I'm kind of enjoying reverting to being just another racer!!!  But since I helped create this mess, I've sent Bill, Greg, and Marcus an email to get a definitive decision.  I'll post when I get a reply.


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Posted 29 July 2015 - 04:12 PM

Charlie, the decision on the body will be made within 2 weeks. I proposed several months back to use IRRA GT Coupe bodies. At the time, Rollin was for it. I know Terry is very much against it. Bill, Greg, and Marcus will make the decision soon enough. They are in contact on this matter by email as I write this.


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Posted 29 July 2015 - 05:23 PM

I don't have any of those bodies.  I hope I don't have to buy more, the downforce GTP bodies are great.  I'm with Terry.


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Posted 29 July 2015 - 05:56 PM

Not to oversimplify the issue but ... shouldn't it be one of the existing 2016 MySeries class rule set for the enduro part of the season?

 

If there is three races this year, pick 3 different existing classes. ...

 

 

IIRC .. the few I ran were LMP.

Just a suggestion ... nothing to get wound up about.


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Posted 29 July 2015 - 08:01 PM

Not to oversimplify the issue but ... shouldn't it be one of the existing 2016 MySeries class rule set for the enduro part of the season?

 

If there is three races this year, pick 3 different existing classes. ...

 

 

IIRC .. the few I ran were LMP.

Just a suggestion ... nothing to get wound up about.

 

 

Bob ..... the Enduro cars are their own class.  That's why we don't use one of the existing classes.

 

The past two years we have used GTP bodies for on the Cheetah 21 chassis for the Enduro races.  The first year we used the now-nearly-unobtanium Parma S16D.  Last year we used the JK Hawk Retro.


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Posted 29 July 2015 - 10:01 PM

 
 
Bob ..... the Enduro cars are their own class.  That's why we don't use one of the existing classes.
 
The past two years we have used GTP bodies for on the Cheetah 21 chassis for the Enduro races.  The first year we used the now-nearly-unobtanium Parma S16D.  Last year we used the JK Hawk Retro.

I believe at one race we even used the Chinese arm puppy dog motor.
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Posted 30 July 2015 - 12:57 AM

I thought the trophy has been running longer than 3 years and dated back to the FL tagged arm days.

 

Wasn't there a pre retro hawk FK motor race? ... that may have been more than 3 years or outside of the series.

 

Danny, did those make the race? .. or smoke.


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Posted 30 July 2015 - 09:34 AM

I believe at one race we even used the Chinese arm puppy dog motor.

 

 

You, sir, are correct.  That was at the now-legendary SCR&H in Jacksonville in 2012.  I had obviously tried to wipe that memory from my brain.  

 

Four of the nine teams got through the day with one motor.  The rest of us made at least one motor change.  At least one. The motor change you did that day is still one of the quickest flexi-chassis motor changes I've ever seen.

 

Between what "poofed" in practice and the race, we distributed/sold something like 25 motors that day for the nine teams that entered.  

 

 

 

 

 

I thought the trophy has been running longer than 3 years and dated back to the FL tagged arm days.

 

Wasn't there a pre retro hawk FK motor race? ... that may have been more than 3 years or outside of the series.

 

Danny, did those make the race? .. or smoke.

 

 

The trophy goes back to September 2011.  Jacksonville racer and former track owner, Buddy Houser had the idea to run an Enduro at Bill's track to give business a little shot in the arm as that wasn't too long after Bill moved to his current location.  Then we ran a follow-up Enduro in Jacksonville in December of 2011 to do the same for SCR&H's business.  Those races were put together on pretty short notice so we used our existing My Series GT1 cars -- and used these races to introduce the Hawk 6 as the class had been just the Hawk 7 prior.

 

I don't recall ever using the FLA16D armature in an Enduro.  Doesn't mean it didn't happen somewhere back in time as that armature has been around since 2008.

 

The popularity of the races in 2011 and 2012 led to the Series creating a more formal schedule for the Enduros in 2013 and 2014 to take the Enduro races to each raceway.


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Posted 30 July 2015 - 10:15 AM

I'm kind of enjoying reverting to being just another racer!!!  But since I helped create this mess, I've sent Bill, Greg, and Marcus an email to get a definitive decision.  I'll post when I get a reply.

 

 

Charlie, the decision on the body will be made within 2 weeks. I proposed several months back to use IRRA GT Coupe bodies. At the time, Rollin was for it. I know Terry is very much against it. Bill, Greg, and Marcus will make the decision soon enough. They are in contact on this matter by email as I write this.

 

 

I don't have any of those bodies.  I hope I don't have to buy more, the downforce GTP bodies are great.  I'm with Terry.

 

 

I've heard back from Bill speaking for the remaining track owners that they're staying with the GTP body for the Enduro races.


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Posted 30 July 2015 - 03:49 PM

I think that the MySeries directors have made a decision. We will be using the same rules as last year so we will be using GTP bodies. Only one new rule: minimum weight of 101 grams.


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Posted 31 July 2015 - 05:47 PM

 

 

You, sir, are correct.  That was at the now-legendary SCR&H in Jacksonville in 2012.  I had obviously tried to wipe that memory from my brain.  

 

Four of the nine teams got through the day with one motor.  The rest of us made at least one motor change.  At least one. The motor change you did that day is still one of the quickest flexi-chassis motor changes I've ever seen.

 

Between what "poofed" in practice and the race, we distributed/sold something like 25 motors that day for the nine teams that entered.  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The trophy goes back to September 2011.  Jacksonville racer and former track owner, Buddy Houser had the idea to run an Enduro at Bill's track to give business a little shot in the arm as that wasn't too long after Bill moved to his current location.  Then we ran a follow-up Enduro in Jacksonville in December of 2011 to do the same for SCR&H's business.  Those races were put together on pretty short notice so we used our existing My Series GT1 cars -- and used these races to introduce the Hawk 6 as the class had been just the Hawk 7 prior.

 

I don't recall ever using the FLA16D armature in an Enduro.  Doesn't mean it didn't happen somewhere back in time as that armature has been around since 2008.

 

The popularity of the races in 2011 and 2012 led to the Series creating a more formal schedule for the Enduros in 2013 and 2014 to take the Enduro races to each raceway.

 

The motor we used was the homeset Pro Slot motor with Chinese arm. I told them when they announced it that was a really bad decision, but no one listened.

 

Three teams blew their motors up in practice, Rollin and I got lucky enough to make it 3/4 of the way through before our turkey cooked...then I was too slow getting the replacement motor in.  At least we had a good handling car....it was on rails that day.  If I remember correctly.....Rollin took satisfaction in hammering both the motor that blew and the one we finished with into submission...it was a fitting end to a lousy idea....

 

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Posted 02 August 2015 - 09:20 AM

Racing the enduros with the hawk motors was fun because it put a little strategy in the mix you could gear it up for power and it would scream but most likely wouldn't make it or you went conservative and geared it to last and hoped everyone else had problems

but I seem to recall quite a few went for power the first few times and 2 young punks from jax stole the show lol
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Posted 02 August 2015 - 11:40 AM

Mike, are you bragging?


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Posted 02 August 2015 - 12:59 PM

Nope cause you old guys will point out how many times those punk ran last to y'all that same year
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Posted 03 August 2015 - 12:24 PM

Are the front wheels required to be touching the ground?


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Posted 03 August 2015 - 12:49 PM

Sean, you don't want the fronts to touch,  put the axle thru the top hole.


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Posted 03 August 2015 - 01:02 PM

Sean, no, the front wheels do not have to touch the ground. As Charlie said, put the axle thru the top hole.


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