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#26 MSwiss

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Posted 06 October 2015 - 07:49 PM

I posed the question to my old boss and my memory was correct on his expert opinion of a crash and it's effect on magnets.

 

"No, a shock won’t cause the motor to lose magnetism".


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Posted 06 October 2015 - 08:50 PM

Mike,

 

Matt has had motors slow on him for no apparent reason and so have I. When my car blasted the wall in the dead man in qualifying (my Fault) it took the motor till halfway thru the B main to come back. Retro Hawk motors are ok. They have made the playing field more even and most are faster then puppy dogs. But they cost some people A LOT of money when their puppy dogs went obsolete.

 

They are just like any other cheap China motor. Their are really bad ones and really good ones and a lot in between and that is a FACT. You have to buy a lot to find the really good ones just like the puppy dogs. Thank god they only cost 12 bucks or so.

 

On another note. When Ralph's Can-Am plus car hit some one or some thing so hard it knocked the front axle out on one side. The ProSlot FK motor never slowed down.

 

Congrats to KVP for his win in the Can-Am Plus Race, by the way. 

 

And as I said I my first post Greg Fox had a great weekend. He is a contender in any race he attends. He is one fast dude and a winner for sure.

 

Regards,

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Posted 06 October 2015 - 09:24 PM

 On another note. When Ralph's Can-Am plus car hit some one or some thing so hard it knocked the front axle out on one side. The ProSlot FK motor never slowed down.

The Proslot is another great motor for the money, but I'll dispute that.

 

4.279 the first heat on heat on Yellow.

 

Never out of the 4.4's on Green, Blue or Purple, the 5th, 6th and 7th heat.

 

So the the Retro Hawk slowed .01 and the FK slowed .13-.17.

 

Sounds like the Proslot 4002FK slowed 13-17 times more than the JK Hawk Retro.

 

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Posted 06 October 2015 - 09:57 PM

  The $100 wing car racers at MMW have found out once the proslot FK heats up the performance falls off 1 to 2 tenths a lap.Qualifying is over in 5 laps because of the rapid heat buildup.Of course gearing at  at 13/44 with .765 tires has a lot to do with that 


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Posted 06 October 2015 - 10:54 PM

Let's not take away from a great event or Greg for his great Can Am race win.

There's endless other pointless threads to debate this motor vs that motor.
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Posted 06 October 2015 - 11:10 PM

The Proslot is another great motor for the money, but I'll dispute that.

 

4.279 the first heat on heat on Yellow.

 

Never out of the 4.4's on Green, Blue or Purple, the 5th, 6th and 7th heat.

 

So the the Retro Hawk slowed .01 and the FK slowed .13-.17.

 

Sounds like the Proslot 4002FK slowed 13-17 times more than the JK Hawk Retro.

 

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No, Mike, the car slowed because the car sustained major chassis damage. The motor was just fine. Did you see the chassis? I did.They worked on the chassis for several heats and never fully fixed it.

 

We will agree to disagree. End of conversation.    



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Posted 06 October 2015 - 11:14 PM

Thank God you were standing in the Bank with the speed gun every heat. :)


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Posted 07 October 2015 - 03:51 PM

I thought motor talk was over.

No doubt the PS4002FK, with it's superior specs, is a superior motor to the Retro Hawk. It has the same wind, similar mags, and full size brushes and springs.

If that's what the IRRA wanted, we would have just approved the JK Hawk 6 three years earlier.

With the Retro Hawk, the guys with good Puppy Dogs can still run and win or podium with them.

With the 4002FK legal, you might as well throw away all the other motors.

PS: I still haven't beaten my F1 times from five years ago, using a Puppy Dog bag motor, even with the track vastly improved.

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Posted 07 October 2015 - 04:35 PM

There is a simple solution to the mysterious motor slowing phenomenon. If you take a wicked hit in a right turn and it slows down... immediately engineer yourself another wicked hit in a left turn... works almost every time.


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Posted 07 October 2015 - 05:38 PM

To tell the truth, I was kind of glad Ralph thought his motor slowed a miniscule.
 
At least he stopped slapping his fanny, with his cowboy hat, and yellin "YAAAAHOOOOO" everytime he ran down the chute. LOL.
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