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Posted 06 May 2016 - 12:26 AM

Mike, have you tried running at BPR without cleaning the track first and running on the leftover rubber/glue from the Thursday LMP races?

That's what SCRRA often does for their Saturday flat track race and it works very well.

I think this is done on many Sundays for the Hard Body races as well.

 

Try to come in on a Sunday after the SCRRA flat track race (second Saturday) and see what the track feels like.

 

BTW, tonight was a bit of a light turnout so we didn't put down a lot of rubber.


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Posted 06 May 2016 - 06:04 PM

I have tested rubber and urethane tires on a worn sprayed glue track. The tires works alright for a few laps until the tires gets coated with glue and deposited foam rubber, and then it doesn’t work very well.

 

Foam rubber likes a glued track.

 

Solid rubber likes rubber laid on a cleaned track.

 

Urethane likes urethane laid on a cleaned track.

 

Silicone likes a cleaned track.

 

These are my findings so far  :umnik2:


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Posted 07 May 2016 - 06:20 PM

Your observations are correct.

SC-2009N ProComp-3 for 3/32" Axle 20.5x11mm on 15mm wheel

Mounted sponge tires that wil work great on a track with light spray glue. Trust me, I know what I am talking about here. No need to clean the track but evening out spray glue may be desired.

Also comes in ProComp-2 and ProComp-4. Accepts standard Slot.It inserts.

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Posted 17 May 2016 - 03:17 AM

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A couple of Gt class cars I've assembled. The Gt40 I have tested and it is running a little faster than a nsr classic. The 935 has a different magnet setup, a PM gold, about 25% less downforce but maybe more speed. Will have to see how she will go. My guess is that the Gt40 will be faster, but we will see.

The race at Big Lou's is this coming Sunday, so we will find out. I will race one and loan the other car out. I will be teching for magnet gauss and car weight, so be sure you are within the specs.
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Posted 18 May 2016 - 10:49 AM

Hey Mike,

 

Since this is at a retail location I'm assuming there will be entry fees for the racing this weekend. 

 

Do you know what those fees are going to be?


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Posted 18 May 2016 - 01:05 PM

I believe it is $5 per race.
Lou has a track because he likes to race, I don't think he's making money on the racing. His real business is selling collectable toys.
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Posted 22 May 2016 - 12:30 AM

Looking forward to the races tomorrow after I visit the Queen's English Brit Car Show in Van Nuys in the morning. Big Lou's is a fun LARGE plastic track. I wonder who else will make the trek.

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Posted 22 May 2016 - 09:34 PM

Race 2 at Big Lou's

GT race: 1st Eddie, 2nd Kevin, 3rd Mike
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Posted 22 May 2016 - 09:38 PM

Gr C race: 1st Eddie, 2nd Lee, 3rd Craig
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Posted 23 May 2016 - 07:00 PM

GT race cars:

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Eddie had a car that was fast in every lane and motored away into first.

A close fight between Kevin and Mike with Kevin about 1/3 of a lap ahead at the finish.

Chris kept the top three honest, but could not make the podium.

 

Podium cars:

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Posted 23 May 2016 - 07:20 PM

Group C race cars:

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The race developed into a contest between Lee and Eddie. With Lee putting down fast and faster laps and Eddie refusing to fall off the track. In the end, because of the round robin format, Lee laid down a large lap total for Eddie to beat. Eddie, determine as ever, cranked off the laps and finished with 1/2 a lap more than Lee, Craig rounded off the podium with a good run.


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Posted 23 May 2016 - 08:48 PM

OAS points race:

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Plans for the next races:

 

Looks like a possible race in June at a home track in the Pasadena area. Group C as always and an IROC class.

 

Buena Park Raceway race in July in the planning stages. Group C as always and also an IROC race with modern Carrera F1s or maybe Slot.it GT40s. Tires will Scale Auto Pro Comp 3 for Group C. I will provide these tires for the race on race day, but you can also get your own if you want to prep them ahead of time.

 

Rafael's track is being rebuilt. Looks like it will larger, he is planning the footprint it to be 34 feet long. He wants to schedule his race in October.

 

Stay tune, I will post details as they become solid.

 

A rules change: Group C tires, you can run any urethane or rubber tires.


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Posted 25 May 2016 - 05:31 PM

The next race will be June 12th at Christophe's track. His track is a four lane routed track that was built by Bob Scott. A figure 8 configuration - hillclimb. I was just there today and it is fun track to run on.

We will be running as usual Group C and IROC cars of Christophe choosing.

I'm excited about this event, the track is cool. Please PM me if you would like to attend, I will provide you with the details.
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Posted 25 May 2016 - 05:53 PM

Mike, what tires work well at Christophe's track ?



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Posted 25 May 2016 - 07:20 PM

Mike, what tires work well at Christophe's track ?

I race at Christophe's with our Farrout club, and can tell you for the Slot.it group C we use Ortmann's, glued, trued, and sanded with the finest sandpaper you can get (2000 grit will do). They are available at Electric Dreams. Other tires may work better, but we haven't tried them. For the IROC class, no need to worry. They'll be set up.

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Posted 25 May 2016 - 08:02 PM

Ortmann has a million tires, what stock number?

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Posted 25 May 2016 - 08:50 PM

Ortmann has a million tires, what stock number?

Why? You coming down?   :laugh2:   I don't know the stock number.  A couple of Farrout members have taken orders and bought them in bulk for the three classes we use 'em on: Slot.it Group C, Fly 60s/70s, and SCX F1.  To get the specific tires I order online from Electric Dreams. Here's a very useful link that has a chart to find the right tires: http://www.electricd...re-charts-2014/

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Posted 26 May 2016 - 12:29 AM

Ortmann ORT51A   I'll only come down if you allow me to win. LOL  Ed you need to come up here so I can show you how to run a Slot.it on a flat track. (SCR) ;-)  I'm surprised nobody raced a Slot.it Porsche GT1 EVO 98, or the Lancia LC2 for that matter. What Voltage do you guys run on Sunday? The ProComp 3 should work well on a lightly spray glued track. Don't really need to prep them except to round the edges. The Ortmanns you'll need to prep. I'm glad you guys got rid of the silly spoilers.

 

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Posted 26 May 2016 - 12:31 AM

Rubber tires for Group C will also be allowed (recent rules change).

Christophe's track!
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I like the climb to the top, like the run at Monaco to casino
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Posted 26 May 2016 - 12:52 AM

Dennis,
Though it kinda fun and casual, there are racers that likes to win here. No easy task to win, it's a tough crowd.

For myself, I like making the cars run fast. But do not have the expertise in the driving like some of these guys!
On a good day I may make the podium, but it is more the car than me.

What I really enjoy is the racing event. Thus my efforts to arrange these events.
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Posted 26 May 2016 - 01:28 AM

Ortmann ORT51A   I'll only come down if you allow me to win. LOL  Ed you need to come up here so I can show you how to run a Slot.it on a flat track. (SCR) ;-)  I'm surprised nobody raced a Slot.it Porsche GT1 EVO 98, or the Lancia LC2 for that matter. What Voltage do you guys run on Sunday? The ProComp 3 should work well on a lightly spray glued track. Don't really need to prep them except to round the edges. The Ortmanns you'll need to prep. I'm glad you guys got rid of the silly spoilers.

 

 

I'd let you win, but I know Christophe wouldn't! We'll run the Slot.its at 10v. He's probably going to use Ninco 50s/60s roadsters (NC1 or NC8) for the IROC at 12 or 13v.  The home track guys here tend to feel like magnets are for refrigerators, and glue is for horses. We'd rather prep the tires than the track, and they really do hook up surprisingly well. 

I'll come up for a driving lesson soon enough. 

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Posted 26 May 2016 - 08:46 AM

I love the Ninco Clasics. I wish they made more of them. Yes the spray glue is really only for BPR. Magnets increase the speed = more damage.

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Posted 26 May 2016 - 08:53 AM

Be sure to give us an address for the folks that have never been there.


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Posted 26 May 2016 - 09:47 AM

Be sure to give us an address for the folks that have never been there.

 

Mike and I can get the address to people via PM or email. We just don't want to post home addresses in a public forum. I'll get it to you, Craig.

 

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Posted 28 May 2016 - 12:34 AM

For Christophe's race, we will be using his house controllers. They are Professor Motors and I have been told they work well with the Group Cs.

Also, I have just gotten the Pro Comp 3 for the BPR race in July
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Posted 28 May 2016 - 10:44 AM

Nice, these should work well. Chassis will need to be tuned so that you don't have too much grip and it chatters.

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Posted 30 May 2016 - 11:17 PM

rest of 2016 proposed race schedule:

 

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Posted 07 June 2016 - 10:17 PM

OAS Race

 

June 12th Sunday, at Christophe's track, Pasadena/South Pasadena

Starts at noon

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Race1: Group C Slot.it and Race2: IROC cars of Christophe choosing. 

 

Group C tires: you can run any urethane or rubber tires

For Christophe's race, we will be using his house controllers

 

PM me or Eddie Shorer for directions


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Posted 11 June 2016 - 09:41 PM

Preparing pro comp tires

Get a 1.5mm Allen wrench
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Mark the location of the set screw and poke a hole thru the tire
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Now you can get to the set screw without tearing the tire
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True to desire size
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Posted 11 June 2016 - 09:52 PM

IROC cars for the BPR round of OAS racing:
How about famous Lancia race cars???
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Posted 12 June 2016 - 01:51 AM

Lighter fluid can get rid of the sidewall stripe.


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Posted 12 June 2016 - 10:57 AM

Lighter fluid can get rid of the sidewall stripe.

 

What?!? That's the best part!!!

 

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Posted 12 June 2016 - 08:20 PM

A cool day of racing at Christophe's track.

A visit by Mr Jay, he needed to check out the track he said.
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First up, the Ninco Iroc race
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The podium 1st Christophe, 2nd Eddie, 3rd George
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Group C Slot.it race
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The podium Gr C 1st Craig, 2nd Eddie, 3rd Christophe
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Posted 13 June 2016 - 02:24 PM

Mike, what tires work well at Christophe's track ?

I ran NSR tires on an NSR rim to win the race at Christophe's over the weekend.  However, George ran Ortman's and his car was fast as well.  


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Posted 13 June 2016 - 05:06 PM

I ran NSR tires on an NSR rim to win the race at Christophe's over the weekend.  However, George ran Ortman's and his car was fast as well.  

 

Interesting. Are NSR tires urethane or rubber? I think most of us just ran our Slot.its the way they're set up for the Farrout club, with Ortmanns. I did add the Slot.it weight to the pod, but that was about it. It's gonna be a whole new thing at Buena Park, running these cars on foam tires!

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Posted 13 June 2016 - 07:02 PM

George and Eddie with their race face

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the climb to the top of the track

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IROC Ninco race

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Group C Slot.it race

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view from the pits

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Points  chase  after  Race  3

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fun event, close racing, thanks to Christophe for hosting!!!


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Posted 14 June 2016 - 11:22 AM

NSRs are rubber as are Ortmanns.

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Posted 14 June 2016 - 12:11 PM

Question on the Pro Comp 3 tires.  Is the SC-2009N and the SC-2009 exactly the same. 

 

I cannot seem to find the ones Mike has pictured in this thread.


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Posted 14 June 2016 - 12:51 PM

The 2009 are alittle wider than 2009n.
They are the firmest of the Pro Comp sponges.

I will have a pair for everyone who will be racing at BPR. They will be handed out the day of the race. They come trued already, but you may want to cut them down and the set screw requires a 1.5mm Allen wrench, a 1/16" will also work.
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Posted 14 June 2016 - 01:19 PM

Where did you buy them, Mike?


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Posted 14 June 2016 - 02:15 PM

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Posted 14 June 2016 - 03:00 PM

132 only showed 2009N's....I found the 2009's at Hot Slots


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Posted 14 June 2016 - 03:30 PM

2009N replaces 2009

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Posted 14 June 2016 - 03:36 PM

Lol, I bought 15 sets, I must have bought what he had.
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Posted 14 June 2016 - 06:39 PM

So, the handout tires will be mandatory for our Slot.it Group C cars, I take it. Will anything else change for that class? Weight? Gears? Remember, if you're scheduling the race in July, the Hardbody races are held on the 3rd and 5th Sundays. (And I'm not back from travels till July 7th, if you want to knock me out of the running! )

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Posted 14 June 2016 - 09:38 PM

So, the handout tires will be mandatory for our Slot.it Group C cars, I take it. Will anything else change for that class? Weight? Gears? Remember, if you're scheduling the race in July, the Hardbody races are held on the 3rd and 5th Sundays. (And I'm not back from travels till July 7th, if you want to knock me out of the running! )

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most likely I may schedule the BPR event for the first sunday in August.

looks like July will be a busy month with the Western Classic, me going racing at the Classic and racing Group F in July, and family coming at the end of July.

 

I will speak with Debbie, and plan for the first sunday in August.

 

so the handout sponge tires will be an option at the BPR event, of course you many use any urethane or rubber tires, but I think you would want to use the sponge tires, because I will not have the track cleaned, it never gets completely clean unless you do it a couple of times and that has been too much of an exercise with BPR. there are no other changes in the rules.


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Posted 14 June 2016 - 10:21 PM

Then you'll want sponge. Mike, the guy must have been happy to find a chump, I mean customer to by his old stock. LOL


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Posted 25 June 2016 - 12:10 PM

Next event will be at BPR, August 7th, Sunday, at 11:30am, on the flat track

Race 1 - iroc Lancias

Race 2 - Group C Slot.it (handout ProComp 3 tires)

 

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Posted 04 July 2016 - 09:46 PM

I raced the Group F at BPR this last weekend. And also test my Gr C Slot.it with the ProComp 3 tires on the flat track (and also on the King). The car ran very well and consistent, I am happy with the test. So I'm looking forward to the BPR event with the ProComp 3 handout tires.

 

 

So... planning for some events after the current series. I have re-organized the rules for later-on this year and into next year.

I am looking at planning some Sunday racing at Lou's in the last quarter of this year and into the first quarter of 2017. Then we will do the OAS series again in the middle of 2017. For Lou's, the cars will be cars with stock magnets, non-magnet cars at Lou's are a struggle, a challenge... but a struggle, so thus the stock magnet type cars.

For the Sunday racing at Lou's I got two classes outlined: GT and F1 60-76, see below. The 2017 OAS events will feature the Le Mans 65-95, see below, plus the iroc cars.

 

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Posted 19 July 2016 - 08:13 PM

  the remaining races are scheduled and confirmed

 

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