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#26 Greg VanPeenen

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Posted 12 December 2015 - 03:42 PM

Like I said in my post, don't get too excited about anything until you see how it works. That goes for Pro Slot,JK, Mossetti, Kelly, or whoever. It was not a put down of Kelly. He at least tried to make those chassis that he went in with Pro Slot work.
 
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Posted 12 December 2015 - 05:57 PM

1mm is .0394".

 
Absolutely right, sir.  My conversion app reads out in fractions.  I could never deal with fractions.

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Posted 13 December 2015 - 01:32 PM

Me, too... I've memorized the ones I use at the shop and have some little math tricks for them also.

When I was in grade school it seemed two full years of math concerned fractions. Multiplying them. Dividing them. Most common denominators. Least common denominators. I had a very hard time with all that. Then my dad taught me decimal fractions in 30 minutes and I never looked back...
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Posted 16 December 2015 - 02:47 PM

Is it just me or are the 2-pc and 3-pc centers different? It looks like you either have to buy 1-2pc and 1-3pc or just 1-3pc and a 1-pc pan so you could have the best of all worlds at the least expensive cost. It looks like a 1-pc pan will fit the 3-pc chassis center section or am I wrong?
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Posted 16 December 2015 - 04:14 PM

Fred,

I think you are right. But who buys just one chassis?
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Posted 16 December 2015 - 04:24 PM

Have you or anybody had an opportunity to run one yet? How do they look as far as quality?

 

Thanks


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Posted 16 December 2015 - 04:28 PM

Some info HERE.

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Posted 17 December 2015 - 10:46 AM

I may be one of one then because I usually only buy 1 newly developed chassis just to try them out.  If it proves to be better than the current chassis I'm using I buy more if not (like the one and only Kelly chassis I own) I don't buy anymore.  With this chassis it appears I can get away with buying a 3pc plus a 1pc pan.  If it proves better in either 2pc or 3pc configuration then my current chassis I'll invest in a 2pc center.  Since I don't do a lot of racing these days I won't be buying lots like I use to. 


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Posted 17 December 2015 - 11:33 AM

Hopefully mine shows up today!


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Posted 17 December 2015 - 11:38 AM

KVP,

Assuming there aren't any roaming Mossetti chassis thieves in your neighborhood, I think you're good.
 
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Posted 31 December 2015 - 06:11 PM

Hi Everyone

 

Just to clear up some misinformed sources out there:

 

Of the first batch, 46% went to Europe - 54% to the US

 

Chassis is made from 410 SS - It's laser cut, formed, hardened then plated with Nickel - Aluminum Pan is also Nickel Plated

Material thickness for both the steel and the aluminum is .040" - It's not Metric

 

Feel free to fire off any questions you might have to me

 

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Posted 31 December 2015 - 06:16 PM

Also, the 3 Piece version and the 2 Piece version of the Patriots are not interchangeable with their separate elements

The cross member of the One Piece pan interferes with the "up stops" located on the Center Section of the 3 Piece version - Hope that's clear


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Posted 31 December 2015 - 06:17 PM

When are the three piece versions available?

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Posted 31 December 2015 - 06:22 PM

Hi Steve

 

About 2-3 weeks - Still waiting on tooling adjustments


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Posted 31 December 2015 - 06:34 PM

Also, the 3 Piece version and the 2 Piece version of the Patriots are not interchangeable with their separate elements

The cross member of the One Piece pan interferes with the "up stops" located on the Center Section of the 3 Piece version - Hope that's clear

Ernie,

 

Thanks for clearing up all the foggy information about your new chassis. I will order a 3pc,a 2pc and an aluminum pan from my local raceway. 

 

Since the aluminum pan is nickle plated,can it be soldered to?

 

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Posted 31 December 2015 - 07:02 PM

Thanks Sam.

 

Yes, you can solder to the Aluminum Pan - Same grade of plating you'd find on an Aluminum Wing Car chassis.

 

I recommend to wash off the area especially if you're using acid flux


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Posted 31 December 2015 - 07:57 PM

Aww shucks..no more red and blue aluminum pans? Lol can't wait to see how the chassis works Ernie
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Posted 31 December 2015 - 09:10 PM

And the alum pans take solder "like a boss"!!

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Posted 31 December 2015 - 09:24 PM

Chassis is made from 410 SS - It's laser cut...

 

Is this chassis going to be submitted to the USRA?


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Posted 01 January 2016 - 01:12 PM

I guess what I was getting at, in the current USRA rules, in the section "Stamped Steel Chassis Regulations", in subsection 1b, "Must be made from stamped and formed metal, does "stamped" no longer apply?

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Posted 01 January 2016 - 01:45 PM

Mike, "stamping" had to occurred at some point since there are bends in the chassis. The "formed" part of the rule is redundant since "stamping" forms metal, even if all it does in blank the piece. Since I'm not involved in the USRA  any longer I have no idea how "the spirit of the rules" pertains to this chassis and the rule that might be applied to it.


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Posted 01 January 2016 - 01:49 PM

My knowledge of sheetmetal work;

Stamping is cutting the shape using a specially made die and a high tonnage press

Forming is bending or shaping

 

I will be checking our club rules whether we can run this chassis or not...


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Posted 01 January 2016 - 01:58 PM

This new item may be the new best choice for use in a Outlaw 12 car (4" flexi chassis with pre-mount wing body). It seems to have an easy to solder to plating. 16D to Group 12. We'll be trying this class later this year. In the mid-'90s this class was popular on Saturdays with kids up to age 15. 

 

Any flexi chassis

Any (Lexan style) body (including wing)

Any gears (no metal spurs)

Any motor up to a Superwasp/Hornet. 


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Posted 01 January 2016 - 02:18 PM

Yep, we're sweet.

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Posted 01 January 2016 - 02:28 PM

Looks like the chassis rule needs a look at.

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