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#1826 Greg VanPeenen

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Posted 23 September 2013 - 08:02 PM

Raisin,

Sano build, sir.

After a little testing I now solder a small bit between the tuning fork rails in the sweet spot. But I like that adjuster idea how did you make it. I also found that moving the location of the front tubes can make the chassis much better.

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Posted 23 September 2013 - 09:15 PM

Raisin,

Just put ball bearings in, install with red Loctite and you will have no problems and not need the overkill bracing found on so many IRRA™ chassis... The Retro East Enduro, where the chassis did not use any additional tube bracing , ran just ball bearings with aluminum axle spacers, and you have less weight up high, and in the last five years of Retro on the West Coast, I have yet to see blown out bearings...

Beautiful build, next time try just the ball bearings into the bracket, no need for tubes... Try it, you'll like it.

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Posted 24 September 2013 - 09:13 AM

Yes, the brass piece your talking about does slide back and forth. I don't know if adjusting it will make a noticeable difference or not but thought it might be worth a try.

I have an idea on how to make this piece but please fill us in on how you made your adjuster.

On a side note, my build had a great deal of bite prior to installing a similar type of adjustment to the car. Once it was in place the car really smoothed out quite nicely and made it very forgiving. I would recommend if anyone builds a tuning fork car to incorporate some form of adjustment to control the amount of flex in the fork.

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#1829 MSwiss

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Posted 24 September 2013 - 10:18 AM

I'm 93% sure Raisin just ovaled a piece of brass tubing, put two piecss of piano wire inside, and hit it again with something like a flat-bladed screwdriver.

In the mid to late '80s, Gary Gerding, and I'm sure others, made lead wire holders similar to that.

Guys probably still do, although it fell out of favor when Koford started selling earring backs, back in 1989, inspired by one of our employees, who came up with the idea.

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Posted 24 September 2013 - 10:29 AM

New build for the Sano, not quite as clean as I'd like, but its been a few months since I built anything. LOL.

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R-Geo GVP Edition Samurai 3
4" wheelbase
Fourteen rails of .039", with an extra rail of .039" soldered on top on each side.
Chicagoland 3/4" motor bracket and horseshoe brace
Weighs 55 grams as pictured

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#1831 raisin27

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Posted 24 September 2013 - 11:10 AM

I'm 93% sure Raisin just ovaled a piece of brass tubing, put two piecss of piano wire inside, and hit it again with something like a flat-bladed screwdriver.

In the mid to late '80s, Gary Gerding, and I'm sure others, made lead wire holders similar to that.

Guys probably still do, although it fell out of favor when Koford started selling earring backs, back in 1989, inspired by one of our employees, who came up with the idea.

I thought doing lead wire holders that way back in the 80's was my idea!...LOL, but actually the adjuster on the tuning fork is just 2 pieces of tubing soldered together and slightly crushed to offer some resistance sliding against the wire.

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Posted 24 September 2013 - 11:18 AM

New build for the Sano, not quite as clean as I'd like, but its been a few months since I built anything. LOL.

CHR Cars #052
R-Geo GVP Edition Samurai 3
4" wheelbase
Fourteen rails of .039", with an extra rail of .039" soldered on top on each side.
Chicagoland 3/4" motor bracket and horseshoe brace
Weighs 55 grams as pictured

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Looks like it should work pretty well. Have never tried .039 rails because I was thinking they might not offer enough stifness from front to back. Your solution of adding the rail on top should take take care of that though. Ive got one of those kits and trying to decide how I want to build it.

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#1833 MSwiss

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Posted 24 September 2013 - 11:22 AM

I thought doing lead wire holders that way back in the 80's was my idea!...LOL, but actually the adjuster on the tuning fork is just 2 pieces of tubing soldered together and slightly crushed to offer some resistance sliding against the wire.

Raisin

Now you know why I said "93% sure" and " and I'm sure others" . LOL

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#1834 Cap Henry

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Posted 24 September 2013 - 01:19 PM

Raisin- the car was fairly soft front to back before adding the extra top rail. It's something I remember GVP did on a car built out of .032. You could tune the front to rear flex with thinner or thicker wire...

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#1835 Craig

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Posted 28 September 2013 - 08:56 PM

Another weekend upon me and another Saturday at the work bench building slot cars.

Here's one for Barney with some similar design features as the one I built last weekend.

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#1836 John Gorski

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Posted 28 September 2013 - 09:36 PM

Looks like a jet Craig. Careful using those steel guide tongues on Retro Pro in testing they do bend.

I am changing mine. Use a Slick 7.

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#1837 Brian

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Posted 29 September 2013 - 10:03 AM

John,

Maybe you should try an FSF "Cleeted" guide tongue

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Posted 29 September 2013 - 10:55 AM

John,

Maybe you should try an FSF "Cleeted" guide tongue

Are they hardened?

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#1839 Brian

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Posted 29 September 2013 - 11:31 AM

Are they hardened?

Yes, they are made of .050thk. Hardened Spring Steel. I sell a "Cleeted" Guide Tongue/spacer kit, comes with guide tongue & a .032 spacer for $8.99.

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#1840 Craig

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Posted 29 September 2013 - 10:02 PM

Brian, how can we get a look at these guide tongues? Never mind, found them. I will have to give them a try.

John, I haven't bent one yet....Now you have me worried! :shok:

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Posted 30 September 2013 - 12:13 AM

I think they are EDM 1095 so if they bend it will do more damage than that! This should.... when I get the pans on allow me to run at about 82grams I hope. That is about 10gr. lighter than the car I ran last time.....

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#1842 Brian

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Posted 30 September 2013 - 08:45 AM

Brian, how can we get a look at these guide tongues? Never mind, found them. I will have to give them a try.

John, I haven't bent one yet....Now you have me worried!

Hi Craig,

Here's a pic. & they also can be found in my catalog: http://slotblog.net/...14-fsf-catalog/

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#1843 Craig

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Posted 05 October 2013 - 10:14 PM

Hot off the jig!

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Posted 06 October 2013 - 02:34 AM

Just goes to show you the power of the blog, without it the above chassis would never have existed....

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Posted 10 October 2013 - 01:14 PM

Took this photo of my new R-Geo/ GVP copy before chucking it in the tumbler. Hoping it works half as good as the one GVP built for me did at Sano. 4" WB, Chicagoland 3/4" Bracket.