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[Tampabay racer]

Are all the new Mossetti chassis legal?

[Tim Wilkins]

Not yet for the Defender chassis according to their Facebook page.

[Tampabay racer]

I wasn't aware of our FSCS having a Facebook page.

[Tim Wilkins]

Mossetti's Facebook page.  

 

Speaking strictly of USRA Rules. Individual organizations may vary.

[Tampabay racer]

Then I don't think my answer has been answered. Are all the Mossetti chassis legal for us to use in the FSCS?

[DOCinCanton]

The Mossetti chasses are legal as long as:

1) the chassis parts are stamped/formed (or even laser cut) in a mass manufacturing process,

2) are stocked by at least one of the 3 distributors listed in the FSCS rules, and

3) are readily available to the raceways in Florida.

 

Aluminum pans are allowed by the FSCS rules.

 

Does this answer help you out? Is there a new part or chassis that I have not seen? There is a new center section that has hooks at the front. I don't have any knowledge of the availability of this newest chassis.

[Danny Zona]

The new ones are in stock.

I bought some from The Race Place and P1.

What a bad-a$$ chassis!

[Tampabay racer]

Yes, thanks, Doc. I didn't want to get a couple of the new ones and them not be legal yet.

[Wizard Of Iz]

Makes sense... I don't have the guidelines with me, but I think the FSCS guidelines simply specify that it has to be a commercially available, stamped steel chassis and that aluminum pans are allowed. Means you could run a Champion Turbo Flex-because they're still available but not a JK Cheetah 7 because they're out of production – at least the .025" version is out of production. No crazy arguements over whether it's a bite bar or a retainer or a tube. (Though I think the rules should specify that  you use what the chassis comes with.)

 

The Mossetti is a sweet-looking design. And I saw Terry Tawney's take repeated wall shots in GTP at Pinellas Park and it kept right on going.  And I think that was with the aluminum pan. Need to put one of the new ones in my hands if you really want it crash tested!

 

JK will need to come up with either a lighter steel pan or a tougher aluminum pan for the C43 to keep it competitive.

 

It's good to have choices for a change. Kinda like Chevy vs. Ford vs Dodge from the heydays of NASCAR.

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DZ and Biscuit – remember how nervous people were when JK dropped the 7 to bring out the 11? A lot has certainly changed since then.

[Danny Zona]

I love having more options on chassis.

 

It's getting me back into flexi racing. I'm game planning with Biscuit on making an upcoming race and hitting some flexi Nats next year.

I couldn't say it better on your opinion on the C43. I concour. I just can't be the first to say it. LOL.

When Biscuit heard the news about the C7 he called Jerry. LOL.

[gatormark]

What new Mosetti chassis are you referring to, Brian?

[CoastalAngler1]

Defender with the hooks up front is tough to hang a NASCAR body. Very wide in front - JK bodies too skinny!

[Danny Zona]

Parma fits good. It's usually faster then the other legal bodies in FL anyway, IMO.

The front ears won't be a problem for most rule sets across the board. Other body manufacturers are legal in thier series and fit fine.

What a great chassi.

Once again, thank you!!!

[DOCinCanton]

The Mossetti chasses are legal as long as:

1) the chassis parts are stamped/formed (or even laser cut) in a mass manufacturing process,

2) are stocked by at least one of the 3 distributors listed in the FSCS rules, and

3) are readily available to the raceways in Florida.

 

And I should have listed #4.

 

4) As long as the chassis meets all other regulations.

 

​As far as I am concerned, the new Mossetti Defender chassis is ILLEGAL. The width of the front wings are in excess of 3.25". Jay, Marcus, and myself measured 3 different chassis. They were all wider than 3.25" which makes the entire batch of the current chassis illegal. The BOD will have to take this matter up.

[Biscuit]

Next time you are in your box measure the back of the pans on a couple X25s, you may be in for a surprise The ISRA and the Flexi National Series both use the 83mm rule which has become the standard in current slot racing. Last year we caught up with the times on the front wheels. It only took about 5 years.... USRA rulebook still says 3.250 but we all know the situation there I won't elaborate any more on that topic. 

 

Chassis are changing to comply with the rules of the International Slot Racing Association, the standard for rules in slot racing. We made a major rule adjustment for the jk last year to catch up. Now it is time for a small one for the Mossetti also to bring our rules up to date. Less than 10 thousands to be exact lol. 

 

We did it for the JK, now it is time to do it for the Mossetti.  If not there will be a whole bunch of illegal chassis hanging on the wall at the track. Is that a good thing???

[Biscuit]

Only in Florida i swear...

[CoastalAngler1]

All I can say is...I been racing 2.5 years flexis and I'm the new guy.  I hope I don't get in trouble for this.

 

Defender chassis passed tech no sweat at Melbourne track previous race.  

All NASCAR entries passed tech today in the Florida State Race.  

C'Mon Mannnnn.

 

You better keep up if you want to win in Florida!

[Danny Zona]

Hey, Biscuit. A tech director buddy of mine who knows USRA rules informed me the USRA is 83mm.



USRA rule book. Page 59 . Letter P.

[Biscuit]

Disregard part of my last post, I'm happy to see the chassis meets USRA width rule as well   The 3.250" rule is intended for things that the racer can do to modify his car and widen it such as the axle. The 83mm is an understood measurement that manufacturers follow when producing chassis. The chassis meets all requirements and was approved based on that criteria. 

 

Meets USRA, ISRA, National Flexi Series requirements on width. Ban it? LOL.

[Zippity]

Does any other country, besides the USA, still use Imperial measurements?

 

We changed over to the dreaded metric system a few years ago, but I cannot get my head around it

[Danny Zona]

Factor FL into the USA equation, Zip.

It makes a big difference. Ha-ha.

[Tampabay racer]

I'm all for this new chassis. As I used one to win today. However the 2017 USRA rule book doesn't say anything about being 83mm. It shows 3.250 inches.

Here's a screen shot I took from the rule book. Again I do want this chassis to be legal. I plan on getting rid of my 'Just for Kids' JK" chassis scrap piles.

[Biscuit]

Brian,

 

83mm is the rule, page 59 letter P look at the pic above DZ posted from USRA rulebook. The 3.250" is under car specifications as parts that we can control. We have no control how wide the rear of the X25 pans are, or the front ears of the new Mossetti. The 3.250" rule is only there for the rear axle of the car. Chassis guidelines are a completely different topic and are on page 59.

 

Some people are digging way too deep for a reason to ban this chassis. You know that bias will always show through down here ha-ha.

[Biscuit]

If we ban it we will be the one and olny place in the world that bans it. That is how ridiculous this whole discussion is just because of one sour grape. I just wanted to make sure to point that one out LOL.

[Danny Zona]

I'm all for this new chassis. As I used one to win today. However the 2017 USRA rule book doesn't say anything about being 83mm. It shows 3.250 inches. Here's a screen shot I took for the rule book. Again I do want this chassis to be legal. I plan on getting rid of my Just for Kids"JK" chassis scrap piles.

 

 

It actually does say 83mm. Page 59. Letter p.