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Started by Bernard Powell , Jun 24 2017 07:06 PM

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#1 Bernard Powell

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Posted 24 June 2017 - 07:06 PM

Just had the opportunity to try out Chicagoland & Mike Swiss's new Group F chassis
The best thing I like about the chassis it went together effortlessly.
And handles very wel. I left the weight in it to see how she run on the first race.
I will further inform you of how it runs.


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Posted 24 June 2017 - 08:11 PM

Pics?
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Posted 24 June 2017 - 08:41 PM

No.

I was waiting to get back from vacation to announce it.

It's laser-cut, not plated, and will retail for $24.95 for the kit.

It will be available to raceways and distributors at a full discount.


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Posted 25 June 2017 - 07:37 AM

Sorry, Mike, if I jumped the gun. The chassis just handled so good and went together effortlessly I had to tell somebody


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#5 MSwiss

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Posted 25 June 2017 - 09:33 AM

Not a big deal.

I'm glad to hear it went together easily.

When you buy a jillion, you don't want a jillion, that have a little nagging problem.

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Posted 25 June 2017 - 03:42 PM

I thought that was a zillion? (synonyms?)


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Posted 05 July 2017 - 10:07 PM

The C/R $24.95 wing car chassis had a terrific debut tonight.
 
They went 1-2, with Michael Iga running a big 273 laps, including a rare 36 lap heat and a real stout 3.271 fast lap time.
 
Most impressive, this was in a fairly wild race, with a drag racer running wing cars for the first time.

 

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Posted 05 July 2017 - 10:54 PM

How do you gear them?


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Posted 05 July 2017 - 11:16 PM

On my 13.5v King, 14/37.


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Posted 06 July 2017 - 04:09 PM

What is the chassis length? Thanks.


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Posted 06 July 2017 - 04:48 PM

Glad you asked, Tim.

 

I was meaning to post that.

 

Approximately 4.61".

 

Since I was going to be the primary customer, I made it with my track in mind.

 

If it is a success, I might make and offer a shorter version.


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Posted 06 July 2017 - 06:57 PM

If legal, that would be a very good choice for this year's Group F race at the USRA Nationals at Rohnert Park, CA, in August. The shorter 4.12" to 4.335" lengths seem to work best at BPR. Maybe one of the BPR wing car racers heading North in August can try out your chassis in practice.


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Posted 06 July 2017 - 07:14 PM

Certainly not legal, since it just came out.

 

I doubt I'll submit it, and go through a bunch of hassle, for a once a year event.

 

The idea behind it is to have a chassis for the $100 Wing Car class, where the car will really be $100, or less.


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Posted 06 July 2017 - 07:50 PM

I'll be honest, Mike, I've been running a 4.55" long at BPR and it is much easier to drive on purple and black in the lead-on than some of these short chassis that most run. So I would submit it anyway. And try 15/35 they will take it easy with 2 min heats; that's what we run on 13.6 with no problems.
 
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Posted 07 July 2017 - 10:46 AM

Does Eagle or ERI have these chassis yet? I would like to buy one from my local raceway.

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Posted 07 July 2017 - 11:06 AM

Eagle should have them soon, and I will approach ERI ASAP.


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Posted 10 July 2017 - 11:42 AM

At our first monthly wing race, the new chassis ran 1-2 in both Group F, and Group FK12, with four different drivers.

It also ran the two highest lap totals, and two fastest race laps, in both races.


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Posted 10 July 2017 - 05:02 PM

Is there a part number or name for this chassis so I can have my track order one for me?

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Posted 10 July 2017 - 07:16 PM

Soon as I create one, I'll post it.
 
I need to finish up this project, first.
 
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Posted 12 July 2017 - 06:50 AM

Good job, Mike


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Posted 12 July 2017 - 06:58 AM

Mike,

 

Can you show us what became of all the leftover steel?


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Posted 12 July 2017 - 08:09 AM

No.

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Posted 19 July 2017 - 04:52 AM

And its made by who?


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Posted 19 July 2017 - 06:46 AM

Me/Chicagoland Raceway.

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Posted 19 July 2017 - 08:34 AM

LOL. It helps to read the whole thread sometimes.

 

I see Iga has found the speed of the pink guides, too!


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