Saw that JK has new natural donut that is listed as DS* Premium.
JKP-D1 _ 0.375"ID x 0.850"OD Natural Donut (pr) * PREMIUM *
Anyone know the difference from the DS? (Besides a $1).
Mark
Posted 26 August 2017 - 10:25 AM
Saw that JK has new natural donut that is listed as DS* Premium.
JKP-D1 _ 0.375"ID x 0.850"OD Natural Donut (pr) * PREMIUM *
Anyone know the difference from the DS? (Besides a $1).
Mark
Posted 26 August 2017 - 11:51 AM
Not sure what the diff is but I notice an interesting pricing strategery on the regular non-premium DS donut. It is $3.50 ea. or $46.66 for ten. Now there's a deal for ya.
Posted 26 August 2017 - 12:21 PM
LOL... I'd bet that gets adjusted soon, now that you've pointed it out, Jim.
Gregory Wells
Never forget that first place goes to the racer with the MOST laps, not the racer with the FASTEST lap
Posted 26 August 2017 - 01:29 PM
Don't know if there is a difference between the "DS" rubber from what Jerry previously sold as natural rubber.
I do know that it worked great for my vintage cars, plus was the only donut available anywhere with a large enough OD to use on the old mid-'60s cars.
Posted 26 August 2017 - 01:49 PM
Fixing the pricing now, oops. There will still be many more mistakes I'm sure. Over 12,000 prices to try to get right.
The new premium donuts have a much tighter pore structure, firmer than our regular rubber, excellent grip, and a little longer life. The ISRA guys love them.
Tim Homola
JK Products
Posted 26 August 2017 - 01:54 PM
Any chance you will sell the premiums as a finished tire in the future?
Posted 26 August 2017 - 01:57 PM
Tim,
If those are the donuts I tested, you need to get these released on rims.
Anthony 'Tonyp' Przybylowicz
5/28/50-12/20/21
Requiescat in Pace
Posted 26 August 2017 - 02:25 PM
Yes, Tony. I can make them into tires. As you can image, with the huge assortment of tires/rims/sizes we offer it would be too difficult to make all of them.
What sizes would you guys like?
Tim Homola
JK Products
Posted 26 August 2017 - 02:51 PM
I'd go with the Retro sizes – big hub, small hub, and .815" diameter – other classes with smaller diameters can cut them down!!
Posted 26 August 2017 - 02:52 PM
I second that.
Anthony 'Tonyp' Przybylowicz
5/28/50-12/20/21
Requiescat in Pace
Posted 26 August 2017 - 03:00 PM
That sounds good.
Just a premium version of your 8703, 8713 tires.
Posted 26 August 2017 - 03:03 PM
They'll be online shortly.
Remember when I said I wanted to increase communications with raceways and racers?
Thanks for the input, guys. Keep it coming.
Tim Homola
JK Products
Posted 26 August 2017 - 03:47 PM
Also .765"s for wings and flexis.
Posted 26 August 2017 - 04:08 PM
Also 765's for wings and flexis
Those are the ones that can be cut down from Retro sizes!
Posted 26 August 2017 - 04:34 PM
Plan to come out with small hub (0.400") and 0.765" or smaller diameter. Also medium hub (0.470") and 0.820" or smaller diameters. I should have them available in a week.
If anyone has an emergency we could probably make the small hub tires custom for you but would have to charge more since it's not part of our normal production yet.
Tim Homola
JK Products
Posted 26 August 2017 - 04:42 PM
Tighter pore structure... now that sounds like some of those tires that are unobtanium sometimes and very expensive when you can get 'em.
I think I'll hold off my next tire order 'til these are ready.
WTG, Tim.
Posted 26 August 2017 - 10:40 PM
Wow glad I asked. Ten pair of JKP-D1 for $28. A 20% discount. Previously my choice from the track's distributor was very limited in JK donuts. They just carried the D4 for $4.65 a pair.
I now have a choice of any of the JK donuts, a discount for buying 10 (which I do anyway), plus there is a new premium fish donut to try.
Thanks, Tim.
Mrk
Posted 27 August 2017 - 11:32 AM
The new premium donuts have a much tighter pore structure, firmer than our regular rubber, excellent grip, and a little longer life. The ISRA guys love them.
Is "premium" the same rubber as on the D14 natural?
Frank Giordano
Posted 27 August 2017 - 11:37 AM
I wouldn't want the new DS "Retro" tires to start out at .815" diameter, that's way too small to allow any break-in or to do a light touch up on the tire truer. I would highly recommend making them available at .830".
Jay Guard
IRRA Board of Directors (2022-Present),
Gator Region Retro Racing Director (2021-Present)
SERRA Co-Director (2009-2013)
IRRA BoD advisor (2007-2010)
Team Slick 7 member (1998-2001)
Way too serious Retro racer
Posted 27 August 2017 - 12:06 PM
I agree, Jay.
The .820"s I have been getting seem to measure about .830" or just over. That is fine by me. Nothing starting out smaller please.
Posted 27 August 2017 - 12:10 PM
No, Frank, very different rubber than our D14.
Jay, we've got you covered. Thanks for the input.
Tim Homola
JK Products
Posted 27 August 2017 - 01:14 PM
The .850" OD that is listed for natural on the website is perf. On a large hub they'll be bigger. No prob. I like starting out with .830" finished and ready for practice
Posted 27 August 2017 - 03:28 PM
.830" works good for me too. I use them at .820" on my Retro Stockers, then use them at .812" for CA and Coupe. Then at .790" for F1. After that they get used on Flexi cars at .750". After that my cats like to play with them. But they prefer "fish rubber."
Posted 27 August 2017 - 03:34 PM
Is there a rule of thumb on which id size donut is correct for a given hub size? Such as:
.375" ID tire for .400" and .425" hubs.
.425" ID tire .470", .510", and .600" hubs
My local track owners just notified me that they are now listed on the JK website and thanked me for the info. Without Slotblog I would not have found out about JK's new direct to track sales. I want to direct the thanks I received to Cheater for Slotblog and also JK-Tim for using this valuable resource to spread the word.
Mrk
Posted 27 August 2017 - 03:41 PM
.690" is way too large for the cars we race on our flat track.