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#51 MSwiss

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Posted 21 August 2018 - 05:22 PM

I'm sure the guide is the reason he won.....or maybe the fact that he is a past ISRA Champion in the Production class.....and all around great driver. :rolleyes:


I missed in my post, where I said that was the reason he won.

And in the subsequent post (#44), I make it real clear how talented he is.

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Posted 22 August 2018 - 02:29 PM

Last night I pulled off a 1 lap win using the low CoG guide on my 4-1/2" Vintage Stock Car.
Also ran fast race lap, but only in a single lane.
The better corner entry and exit manners help me be more consistent with fewer deslots when pushing the pace.

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Posted 23 August 2018 - 08:43 AM

Shiggy,

Thanks for the (unsolicited) feedback on the guide.

 

"Better corner entry" seems to be the consensus, among the scale racers using them, on their advantage.

 

Jonathan, on his convincing Production win, last Saturday, in San Diego, said after practicing with his car, with one of his usual favorites, a Cahoza, he switched to the low CG and immediately discovered he could drive in deeper into the turns.

 

Not a super-fair comparison, because he didn't start with a regular Red Fox, but he did add he hadn't been a fan of them with he had tried them before.


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Posted 27 August 2018 - 07:32 PM

Big congrats to Danny Zona on his Can Am win at GRRR Race #8, at The Race Place, in Holly Hill, this past Sunday, using a CR low CG Red Fox graphite guide.

 

When asked if he did an A-B comparison, and what he thought the advantage was, his reply was;

 

I did.

I was about .03-.04 faster with the weighted guide when I was going for a fast qualifying lap.

Where I seen a big difference was more consistent fast laps while driving in race mode. The lap times where closer together while in race mode. Not nearly as much of a gap between a good lap and a bad lap.

The car just felt more comfortable for lack of better words.


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Posted 28 August 2018 - 06:21 AM

I used them this weekend and noticed what Danny pretty much said, car was much more consistent and better transitioning from the infield to the banking where many cars have issues deslotting.


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Posted 30 August 2018 - 10:29 AM

Big congrats to Keith Libby on his his 2 TQ's, and 1st and 2nd place finishes, this past weekend, at the Retro East season opener, and John Gorski Sr. Memorial race, at fast Track Hobbies, using the C/R Low CG flag.

 

Keith also had C/R 2 degree guide tongues on both his Kamo built chassis.

 

Other podium finishers using C/R parts;

 

Matt Bruce - 2nd Stocker -  Low CG flag, old style guide tongue

 

Brian Cochrane - 3rd Stocker - 2 degree guide tongue

 

Jimmy Williams Jr. - 3rd Can Am - Low CG flag, coined guide brace, versa-bracket

 

When asking Keith Libby his perceived advantage with the Low CG guide, he replied;

 

"Faster corner speed definitely and of course more stability in the corner."

 

Another thing, I've altered the texture of my finger tips, figuring out the best way to glue the brass into the graphite braid slot, and have succeeded about 99.5% of the time.

 

But it doesn't hurt to check the bond periodically, to make sure it hasn't broken loose.

 

If you detect any peeling, just wick some crazy glue in, and clamp with an alligator clip for a few minutes, and you'll have a joint that will be probably be better than any of the original joints, because you won't be heating the brass like I have to do, when I trim the excess (brass).


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Posted 05 September 2018 - 07:29 AM

With the monsoon, in Downers Grove, on Labor Day, my yard work opportunity was limited, and my bike ride with my wife was washed out, so I was able to go at it hard, on the guide cutting machine, and put a reasonable dent in my back orders.

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Posted 05 September 2018 - 07:44 AM

Last Saturday's four classes at The Dungeon using Swiss flags:
 
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Posted 05 September 2018 - 07:51 AM

The big broom. Lol

Big congrats, Pablo.

I fixed your photo.

What works for me, both in this case, and in the past, is to do a crop, even a minimum one, before posting.

That seems to confirm your intention, vs. the camera software thinking it knows what's best for the pixels.

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Posted 09 September 2018 - 10:19 AM

Discovered the guids are not indestructible. Got collected and slammed in CanAm yesterday. No time to react when a car came off in front of me and another car hit me at full speed.
Took a bit to figure out why it would not fit in the slot. Also bent the car enough to DNF the race.
I will be replacing it with another low CoG guide

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Posted 09 September 2018 - 10:52 AM

Anything can be broken. Would a regular guide have survived?

 

Probably not.


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Posted 09 September 2018 - 11:24 AM

I didn't quite understand your description of the wreck, except if the chassis got bent, it obviously was a bad one.

I'm sort of surprised with a hit that hard, the post didn't snap.

I'm still trying to figure out a practical way to pin the post and still weight the blade.

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Posted 09 September 2018 - 12:11 PM

With less deslots, the need to pin the shaft may be lessened (?)

I haven't raced retro in a while, but these may be "the answer" to straightaway launching syndrome in F1's (?)


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Posted 09 September 2018 - 03:01 PM

I didn't quite understand your description of the wreck, except if the chassis got bent, it obviously was a bad one.
I'm sort of surprised with a hit that hard, the post didn't snap.
I'm still trying to figure out a practical way to pin the post and still weight the blade.

I have never broken the post (or blade) on a Red Fox guide. Have been using them in all my cars since it came out. The usual crash failure is the braid socket breaks, the quick-fix during a race is super gluing the braids in place. I had to do this in the later LMP race.
The LCoG guide blade split away from the base as well as the brass bending.
I was not surprised that the guide or chassis was damaged. Just part of the game.

Crash scenario: accelerating out of the lead-on in a middle lane. The car just ahead and inside of me deslots and I slam into it. The car following and outside slams into both of us, my car in the middle. At least two big hits to my car. No time for either of us to react.
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Posted 09 September 2018 - 03:07 PM

Anything can be broken. Would a regular guide have survived?
 
Probably not.

The unmodified Red Fox likely would have been raceable. The chassis, not so much
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Posted 09 September 2018 - 05:52 PM

Big congrats to Jason Dennis on his Can Am & F1 wins, this past Saturday, at the ORS-KOR 2018-19 season poener, at Tom Thumb, in Columbus, using the C/R Low CG flag.


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Posted 11 September 2018 - 07:43 PM

Congrats to Dale Yamashita on his dominating F1 win, this past weekend, at the BPR Flat Track race, using a C/R Low CG flag.
 
In my correspondence with Dale, he also mentioned having a strong motor.
 
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In post #56, I mention the unavoidable heating of the brass, when I trim the excess.
 
That happens in both the cutting and the sanding.
 
After the sanding, where I'm removing a fair amount of brass, and create a fair amount of heat, I usually reglue the brass in the front, (for some reason, it very, very seldom needs regluing in the back).
 
Rather than go back and resand that area, to make it look a little nicer, I've decided not to bother in the future, as while it's a quick, way less heat inducing process, it's seems silly to take the time, with very little upside, other than appearance.
 
Also to move along production, I'm not going to sand the the excess glue off the bottom of the blade  (which was hand sanded), in the future.

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Posted 13 September 2018 - 05:58 PM

Congrats to Dale Yamashita on his dominating F1 win, this past weekend, at the BPR Flat Track race, using a C/R Low CG flag.

 

Well that would be interesting because I believe they are ILLEGAL for SCRRA racing!!  :)  :)


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Posted 13 September 2018 - 06:16 PM

Yes, I specifically asked him, and he said they are illegal, but only for the big events.


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Posted 13 September 2018 - 11:27 PM

Mike,

 

Actually, the weighted guides will not be legal for the monthly SCRRA races either.

 

In Dale's case it was pretty much a situation of our policy to allow anything reasonable one time in our monthly races. Dennis Samson ran a great-looking Dilworth Lotus body in the same race that was also technically illegal but allowed to run as a test. Dale was testing his IRRA® legal F1 Flat track car that he will be taking to the Sano next month and it seems to run OK!... Watch out for Dale!


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Posted 17 September 2018 - 07:14 PM

Congrats to Keith Libby on his GTC(also TQ) and F1(lap record) wins, at the Retro East Event #2, at Speedzone, using the C/R Low CG guide.

Pat Skeggs(3rd - GTC) and Joe 'Chubby' Salzman(3rd - F1) also podiumed, using them, with Chubby TQ'ing F1, setting a new record.

Keith also used CR021 trimmed nylon guide nuts, on both cars.


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Posted 18 September 2018 - 08:00 PM

Congrats to Danny "DZ" Zona on his TQ and win, in Can Am, this past weekend, at the inaugural Southern Retro Rumble, using the C/R Low CG flag.

 

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Posted 03 October 2018 - 11:54 AM

Big congrats to Bud Bartos and Greg Fox, on their dominating 1-2 finish, in F1, at the BRS/Retro Summit, this past Saturday, using C/R Low CG guides.

 

Bud, was a full 15 laps ahead of 3rd, showing that not only does he know how to plug in a soldering iron, he can still "pull (I mean press-LOL) the trigger".

 

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Posted 14 October 2018 - 04:50 AM

Big congrats to Dominykas Budrys and Jonathan Forsyth, on their TQ, at the ISRA 2018 World Championships, using the C/R Low CG Red Fox graphite guide.

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Posted 15 October 2018 - 06:09 AM

This past weekend, the CR Low CG guide had a stellar weekend at the the tracks across the world.

After their TQ in the team Production race, at the 2018 ISRA Worlds,
Dominykas Budrys and and Jonathan Forsyth, went on to go wire to wire, to win the race by 5 laps.

Jonathan prerace feedback;
"They are better on all the cars. They are worth a .1 with our Production car".

Nick Brantley won both Nascar and GTP, in Durham NC, at the Mid-South race, on Saturday.

He said the cars were a few hundredths faster and felt more stable.

Jason Dennis TQ'ed and took the LMP win, at the FNRS race, at HMS Speedway.

He also won the GTP race with a CR pinned guide.

At Sano 12, in Can Am, Greg Fox qualified 2nd, becoming only the 2nd racer in the 4.1's.

Greg also finished 2nd, only 3 laps behind "the most feared man in Retro racing", Will Custer, who (I believe), ran a CR pinned flag.

I rounded out the podium, also running a pinned guide.

 

43951287_1193575534127489_61972455788296 Dominykas Budrys and and Jonathan Forsyth's winning ISRA 2018 World's, Production car.


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