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[The Number of]

The third guy invented sake!

[Cheater]

Not bad, Deiters, not bad at all.

Right on Yamamoto.

Mostly right on Fuchida. He helped to plan the Pearl Harbor surprise attack and was a flight commander in the first attack wave. At his instruction, it was his radio operator who transmitted the famous "Tora, tora, tora" message back to Japan to indicate that complete surprise had been achieved. He survived the war and became a Christian missionary in later life.

Saburō Sakai was Japan's leading fighter ace from WWII. Officially he was credited with 28 aerial victories, but one author believed he downed as many as 64 aircraft, although some dispute that figure. He also survived the war and later ran a printing shop.

[elinsley]

Greg, why is that a rule on here??

This is one of the biggest slot car race and there should be a reporter on-site so this site will get more traffic and people could see what is going on. This is one of IRRA^®'s biggest events and as a BoD member you should want more reports about IRRA^® events. Rules like this is why stuff gets posted to Facebook and not here.

 

Racers deserve to have a race they race in reported on. It's the whole point of this site.

[Pablo]

Your answer is right HERE.

[Rotorranch]

Please include full names.

 

I'd like to see information for the race! 

 

Rotor

[Rotorranch]

Greg, why is that a rule on here??

This is one of the biggest slot cars race and there should be reporter on this site so the site will get more traffic and people could see what is going on. This is one of IRRA^®'s biggest events and as a BoD member you should want more reports about IRRA^® events. Rules like this is why stuff gets posted to Facebook and not here.

 

Racers deserve to have a race they race in reported on that they race in. It's the whole point of this site

 

Just do it!!! 

 

Full names please!

 

Rotor

[Cheater]

Greg, why is that a rule on here??

Pablo provided a link to the basic reasoning. Please note that the initial post in that thread is almost ten years old.
 

This is one of the biggest slot car races and there should be a reporter on-site so this site will get more traffic and people could see what is going on. This is one of IRRA^®'s biggest events and as a BoD member you should want more reports about IRRA^® events. Rules like this is why stuff gets posted to Facebook and not here.

I agree with your basic points here. What you're missing is that IRRA® has no income stream and is entirely self-funded by the BoD members themselves. Not a single person, not the raceway owner nor the racers nor the other members of the BoD, has offered to financially support my presence there. Do you feel I should reach into my own shallow pockets to finance an 1,800-mile round-trip drive and a stay of perhaps five or six days in a fairly expensive hotel market simply because you believe "there should be reporter on-site"?
 

Racers deserve to have a race they race in reported on. It's the whole point of this site.

No, sir, that is not correct except at a very low level.

Slotblog exists to promote the overall slot car hobby, both racing and non-racing segments in all scales and subsets, in a more professional and organized manner than is the case in most other places. It is not accurate to define slot racing as only occurring in 1/24 commercial raceways and/or only in the Retro genre.

A second point is that it is not possible for me alone to promote my self-assigned agenda. And while there are a significant number of wonderful people who do help here at Slotblog, both with their efforts and their financial support, the majority of people, especially in the 1/24 commercial racing segment, simply don't give a crap. Yes, that's a blunt statement, but there is ample evidence over decades to illustrate that it is true.

Prior to the RP I communicated with five or six people trying to make sure that the data I needed to craft a good and accurate race report would be available, one that would respect and honor the many racers who expended large amounts of time and money to participate. Several tried to help, obviously to no avail, but some didn't even bother to reply to multiple messages.

Eric, if you want to blame me for my position in this matter, there's not much I can do about that. But I hope you're smart enough to step back and look at the bigger picture, which involves the 'corporate culture' of organized slot racing, where winning is basically the only thing that matters to the majority of the participants. It seemingly trumps even being recognized over time for being a winner, something that does not happen on Facebook.

I don't know of another organized competive activity anywhere where a simliar mindset is so prevalent. The article I am thinking of writing (but not for the slot car media arena) is "The great hobby no one wants to tell you about or even admit they participate in."

 

Rules like this is why stuff gets posted to Facebook and not here.

 

I disagree. IMO Facebook is so popular, first, because it is easier to post to from a smartphone and second, because it largely promotes the person. It is the electronic equivalent of 'vanity publishing,' as much as anything else. 

[JR10]

Thanks for all the history lessons,

Lets talk slot car racing and less about having the proper names. My opinion if guys wanted their full names they would write it on the sheet to be put into the computer.

Most guys like racing with nicknames they earn from their fellow racers. I know most guys from their nicknames, ask me their full names if you have no idea.

[Rotorranch]

Who's Chubby?

 

Keith who?

 

And the other guy?

 

FULL NAMES PLEASE!!!

 

Rotor

[Jay Guard]

Greg, why is that a rule on here??

This is one of the biggest slot car race and there should be a reporter on this site so the site will get more traffic and people could see what is going on. This is one of IRRA^®'s biggest events and as a BoD member you should want more reports about IRRA^® events. Rules like this is why stuff gets posted to Facebook and not here.

 

Racers deserve to have a race they race in reported on. It's the whole point of this site.

 

1. There is a rule on here about full names because it his site, that he pays for and supports with his time and money. Until you want to do the enormous amount of work to make a site like this work, you can either play by the rules or quit bitching!

 

2. This is a big race and you'd think that the guys that put it on would think that reporting on their race would be important to them. The fact that they can't even take the time to input full names in the race computer shows how important they think getting information out about their event is.

 

3. It seems like if you are so concerned about the coverage maybe you should volunteer to send race results and pictures to Greg which I'm sure he would be happy to post.

 

I think you need to be part of the solution, not the problem. Seems like the ball is in your court, not his!

[Cheater]

Sorry, Ken, Slotblog is visited and read by people in something like 40 countries, and for the vast majority of them, less than full info on the identity of the racers is of little or no interest.

 

Would it be OK with you if the 500 results were reported as:

First: Simon

Second: Alex R.

Third: Takuma

If not, explain why please.

 

I don't know of another organized competitive activity anywhere in the world where is is acceptable to report results with just first names, first names and initials, or nicknames. If do you do, point me to it.

 

If that's what the hobby wants, it'll simply have to find a place other than Slotblog to utilize that approach.

[Pappy]

Most guys like racing with nicknames they earn from their fellow racers. I know most guys from their nicknames, ask me their full names if you have no idea.

 

Ken,

 

That works both ways. I probably know some of these guys by their real names and not the ones they earned from their fellow racers at their local track. 

[JR10]

Sorry, Ken, Slotblog is visited and read by people in something like 40 countries, and for the vast majority of them, less than full info on the identity of the racers is of little or no interest.
 
Would it be OK with you if the 500 results were reported as:

First: Simon
Second: Alex R.
Third: Takuma

If not, explain why please.
 
I don't know of another organized competitive activity anywhere in the world where is is acceptable to report results with just first names, first names and initials, or nicknames. If do you do, point me to it.
 
If that's what the hobby wants, it'll simply have to find a place other than Slotblog to utilize that approach.

I understand your side of things.

RetroPalooza top three in Stock Car:

1- Joe Salzman (Chubby)
2- Keith Libby
3- Jimmy Williams

Hope this will make peace in the world!

[MSwiss]

Rules like this is why stuff gets posted to Facebook and not here.

I'm going to stay out of this, other than to refute this.
 
Paul, on OWH, couldn't be easier going on rules. He doesn't step in, until somebody has come off the top rope for the third or fourth time, or has the other guy in a full nelson.
 
And racers have abandoned him.
 
There's three or four days, sometimes, without a post.

[elinsley]

1. There is a rule on here about full names because it his site, that he pays for and supports with his time and money. Until you want to do the enormous amount of work to make a site like this work, you can either play by the rules or quit bitching!
 
2. This is a big race and you'd think that the guys that put it on would think that reporting on their race would be important to them. The fact that they can't even take the time to input full names in the race computer shows how important they think getting information out about their event is.
 
3. It seems like if you are so concerned about the coverage maybe you should volunteer to send race results and pictures to Greg which I'm sure he would be happy to post.
 
I think you need to be part of the solution, not the problem. Seems like the ball is in your court, not his!

Hey Jay ,
 
As you see I am a subscriber and support this site with my money so Greg doesn't pay for it with his money and it doesn't run without money from racers like myself. They do think reporting on the race is important but what they don't think is important is having full names. I think they don't see a difference if it says a full name or nickname or anything else. I'm always willing to send and help report on races when I'm there for Greg.

[Noose]

If you want to know what is going on then come to the race. Plain and simple. I’m here doing tech, officiating, and doing reporting as I get to Facebook.

I’m a BoD member and have done all of this for years. No one here is bitching and if someone does not know who “Chubby” is or even “Noose” then I can’t understand how you even think you know slot racing.

[Cheater]

As you see I am a  subscriber and support this site with my money so Greg doesn't pay for it with his money and it doesn't run without money from racers like myself. They do think reporting on the race is important but what they don't think is important is having full names. I think they don't see a difference if it says a full name or nickname or anything else. I'm always willing to send and help report on races when on there for Greg

 
Eric, you're one of the "wonderful people who do help here at Slotblog, both with their efforts and their financial support" I was referring to.
 
But 142 subscribers generates just a liitle under $2,000 annually. A solo trip to Long Island, just for gas and hotels, would cost north of $1,000, assuming I don't eat anything on the trip, something I have found rather hard to do for a five or six day trip.
 

... if someone does not know who “Chubby” is or even “Noose” then I can’t understand how you even think you know slot racing.

Does the same apply to not knowing who Don D, Big Pete, Jamie R, Richie T, Frank B, Kernal, and Sammy are? Are you suggesting that the RP results are only meant for people who "know slot racing"? It's been established for a long time that just "preaching to the choir" is a very limiting approach.

The decision not to report the RP results at Sloblog is not a criticism of you in any way, Joe. Just wanted to make the point to the membership that complete data on all the the racers and their sucesses and failures is not available to generate a decent race report. And the responsibility for that data is not yours.

[Cheater]

RetroPalooza top three in Stock Car:

1- Joe 'Chubby' Salzman
2- Keith Libby
3- Jimmy Williams

Thanks for the podium info, Ken.

But what about the other 44 racers in that class? They're just 'chopped liver' losers, right? No need even to mention that they were in attendance.

[Noose]

Greg, guys are racing to include the staff here as well as running the races and providing services to the racers. They don’t have time to post here.

[elinsley]

Eric, you're one of the "wonderful people who do help here at Slotblog, both with their efforts and their financial support" I was referring to.
 
But 142 subscribers generates just a liitle under $2,000 annually. A solo trip to Long Island, just for gas and hotels, would cost north of $1,000, assuming I don't eat anything on the trip, something I have found rather hard to do for a five or six day trip.
 

Does the same apply to not knowing who Don D, Big Pete, Jamie R, Richie T, Frank B, Kernal, and Sammy are? Are you suggesting that the RP results are only meant for people who "know slot racing"? It's been established for a long time that just "preaching to the choir" is a very limiting approach.
The decision not to report the RP results at Sloblog is not a criticism of you in any way, Joe. Just wanted to make the point to the membership that complete data on all the the racers and their sucesses and failures is not available to generate a decent race report. And the responsibility for that data is not yours.

I'm not talking about you going to a race. There is enough information to report from wherever you are. The fact that you won't report about RP because the race director didn't put full names in is mind blowing.

[Tim Neja]

It's much ado about nothing!! Slot racers will argue about anything!! Too many rules – just race and enjoy!

[Cheater]

Greg, guys are racing to include the staff here as well as running the races and providing services to the racers. They don’t have time to post here.

??? Please explain how that precluded/precludes entering full names in the lap counting computer?

And please show me where anyone at the race has been asked to post here. I'd have taken care of all of it if the complete racer info had been provided and it has not been despite my requests.

Slotblog members have to have their full names visible to be able to post here and that has been the case since day one. This is no different. Full names in race reports or don't bother.

[Cheater]

The fact that you won't report about RP because the race director didn't put full names in is mind-blowing.

Why are you ignoring the fact that that has been the firm policy here at Slotblog for almost ten years? Why is it mind-blowing now when it didn't concern you in the past?

[Cheater]

I'll again ask the question I've been asking for almost ten years:

I don't know of another organized competitive activity anywhere in the world where is is acceptable to report results with just first names, first names and initials, or nicknames. If do you do, point me to it.

So far, not a single person has responded...

[elinsley]

You let it go in the Sano 12 results that Swiss posted.
 
Rowdy?
Raisin?
Boogie?
 
You let these race results be posted but you never said a word or hid the post.
 
Why isn't it consistent in the whole site?