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#76 Martin

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Posted 28 August 2020 - 04:02 PM

Great shot. I love that the drivers are giving each other the stare down. Very Hollywood. The should make a movie about this :laugh2:


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Posted 28 August 2020 - 05:42 PM

That picture is just before the start of the 1965 Daytona 2000 Kilometres.

 

The body for this project is the number 77 Ferrari 330 P2 driven by John Surtees and Pedro Rodriguez. The beautiful red beast suffered suspension damage. Here the damaged car is being wrestled around by Surtees:

 

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And finally being retired:

 

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Here's Pedro Rodriguez in the car:

 

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I'm going to put Pedro in my model as best I can:

 

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Here he is with his brother Ricardo:

 

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I'm using #99 Lancer Ferrari they called a 365 P2:

 

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It's looks very close to the Daytona car:

 

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Posted 28 August 2020 - 08:39 PM

Nice choice.

 

That poor car is slammed, and not in a good way.

 

Notice the light blue Dunlop (HO decals) on driving suit and red "bitching tuck and roll" seats. I just did some for my Cox Dinos.


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Posted 29 August 2020 - 01:50 AM

1960. 44 ^ TARGA FLORIO. A battered FERRARI DINO 196 S will finish in seventh place overall driven by the wild brothers RODRIGUEZ, RICARDO and PEDRO.

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Posted 29 August 2020 - 03:14 PM

Blue Dunlop driving suit for sure Martin, seat backs, I'll see with I can come up with.......

 

The wild Rodriguez brothers......very cool pictures Maurizio.  :sun_bespectacled:

 

This is why I wanted to make this early version of the car, Ferrari's beautiful wire wheels were still in use on their race cars. This car might have been the last time they were used on a sports prototype:

 

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I'm using the wire wheels from this model kit:

 

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Here are 3 of model wheels and one I've cut down to a wheel insert:

 

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The model wheel fits nicely into a 3/16" collet to reduce the OD to .545":

 

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Then the insert is turned around and held in a pot chuck to cut to width:

 

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Pot chucks are really helpful as you can bore them out to hold whatever you need to:

 

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Here are the finished wheels, tires and inserts. The knock-offs are K&B:

 

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Posted 31 August 2020 - 09:14 PM

The interior for this car was a problem because the motor is so big and sits so far forward in it's inline configuration. This lovely Lancer repop interior just wouldn't fit:

 

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So I made up a flat plastic sheet interior card with a Revell driver body, Russkit driver head and aluminum rod roll bar. I still had to make a cutout for part of the motor to fit:

 

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The body is so detailed and the interior just looked so plain. I decided to cut off the Lancer interior from the dashboard forward and install it. I also made up some engine detail and a required passenger seat back also from the Cobra model kit:

 

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I spent all day with my shaky paint brushes and got the interior done:

 

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The body has all the inside detail painting done and is scuffed up with #4/O steel wool:

 

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Time to get color on the body.....

 

 


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Posted 01 September 2020 - 03:33 PM

With a single narrow strip of Teflon tape creating the mask line of the windscreen and the rest of the windscreen filled in..........

 

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........the body was painted with Testors flat red enamel and the over spray cleaned up the Testors brush cleaner:

 

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Brushed in flat black details are next.


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Posted 01 September 2020 - 05:11 PM

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Posted 01 September 2020 - 08:42 PM

Thanks Martin, so far so good. My shaky paint brushes were put to work again and all the black details on the outside are done:

 

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Once I'm sure the enamel paint is dry enough I'll tape in the interior, engine detail and get the decals on.


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Posted 04 September 2020 - 05:20 PM

I just finished up a timed lap track test of the RAMtron and 4 other cars. 

 

The track, my Gary Gerding home track. Gloss epoxy paint finish cleaned with naptha, NO glue. Power supply set at 12 volt:

 

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Lap Times:

 

The RAMtron 850 - 4.843

 

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Harvey Aluminum Special Pittman DC65X powered - 4.846

 

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Chaparral 2 16D rewind sidewinder - 4.888

 

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Scarab DC65X 4-wheel drive - 5.002

 

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The car that bested the RAMtron is 1966 Rod & Custom Series style car powered by a Pittman 196-65X "big block" motor - 4.657

 

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The "jail door" style chassis and lower profile motor definitely has the advantage. Nothing surprising there. But the big RAMtron with 1 1/8" tall tires and a space frame with it's big power and great brakes bested all the others.   :sun_bespectacled:


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Posted 04 September 2020 - 05:25 PM

Very nice fleet of fun cars...

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Posted 04 September 2020 - 07:21 PM

that's incredible cars.  

 

- but no cat corner marshal present? what happens if you come off in the 45 or the lead-in? 


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Posted 04 September 2020 - 07:58 PM

The cats were slacking today. I even had to step over the big guy Charlie as he slept on the floor near the lead-in.   :unknw:  :D


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Posted 05 September 2020 - 04:23 AM

Thanks Rick, interesting results. 

 

I love seeing comparative road tests too - they're always more telling than just a single-car performance review. Always wished the period magazines would do more of that, but they were probably afraid of scaring off advertisers. Only Rod & Custom dared to do it, and they only did it once. 

 

I probably missed it, but are all these cars using urethane tires? 

 

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Posted 05 September 2020 - 09:42 AM

Hi Don,

 

Yes all the cars were using either the French or Paul's Canadian tires both sold on eBay.

 

I just posted the R&C comparison test you mentioned. Here's the link:

 

Rod & Custom Magazine Ready-to-Run Roundup

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Posted 05 September 2020 - 06:23 PM

The real deal........

 

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........and the little wheel:

 

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I had to cut a slot for part of the motor's end plate to stick up through:

 

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Posted 05 September 2020 - 08:14 PM

I love so many things about this car, WOW :heart: :heart: :heart:

 

But you missed it on the roll-bar. The bends should be less than 90, wider at the base, all the way out to the window,like the real car. 

More black and red in the seating areas IMO.

 

Hope you don't mind a bit of criticism?

 

But you know I love your builds.

 

 


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Posted 05 September 2020 - 08:56 PM

Thanks Martin, I'm glad you like some things on the car. You are right about not having more black in the drivers area of the interior. I'll remember that for my next build.

 

I didn't "miss it" on the roll bar. I took the easier way of making it....simple as that. I confess to not being a "rivet counter".

 

I seem to revert back to my roots as a Los Angeles area racer in the 60's. Believe it or not, this is supposed to be a commercial track slot RACE car from late 1965. I try to make my cars look somewhat like their full scale counterparts but I confess I don't go to extremes. Pedro's helmet is wrong too. But a single blue stripe down the middle of his helmet is as far as I chose to go.

 

So yes, the car could be made much closer to "scale" but this is about as far as I went back in the day and as far as I'm going with it now. A motorized scale model is a wonderful thing but that's just not me.

 

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Posted 05 September 2020 - 10:24 PM

Got it . Love it. Want it. Carry on. :good:


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Posted 06 September 2020 - 02:05 AM

Well done, it's a very nice slot car. :clapping:

 

 

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