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[Martin]

Yes, the article refers to that. I was asking about the Car Rod posted, it was unclear from the pic. But Rod already replied to that question.

 

"Martin, I remember it being a shortened 16D (Rick's car)."

[Slot Car Rod]

Here is my STP turbine car that was built for club tracks.  26D motors seem to work great on club tracks.

 

 

[Martin]

Thanks Rodney for adding to the collection of open wheel angle winders.

Were there ever rules concerning motor configuration at the club you raced?

[Martin]

Check out what Rodney found

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"Production anglewinder frames started to appear around 1968-69.  I remember going to Oakland Speedway in 1969, and they had International anglewinder frames for sale.  They looked a little odd in that they looked like inline frames that were converted for sidewinder use.  The chassis ad below is from a 1969 Auto World catalog".

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[Martin]

In my quest to mount motors in my chassis I will need brass motor mount brackets. 

 

I am looking for this style, anybody got a few to sell?

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[Martin]

Do not have it in my hands yet, but just picked up this O.W.A.W.

 

Cheap enough to take a closer look, see if it is worth putting some time to save.

 

Not sure what body will fit without the motor box showing?

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[Isaac S.]

Pretty cool, obviously builder didn't have the means (money) to build a really good looking chassis but the fundamentals are there. All that wire wrap bulletproofing is cool. I like the plumber also.  

[Bill from NH]

Martin, looks like this was someone's 26D powered race car rather than a shelf queen to look at. It appears to be built quite strong & of piano wire rather than having a lot of brass rod added for extra weight, Looking at the width of the body mounts, I can't envision a cigar body that wouldn't require major cutting to fit around the motor box.  This basic chassis with an FK motor might might make a decent race car today too. Based on a high front axle tube, plumber on the rails behind the front axle, & the large motor to rear axle angle, I would estimate your chassis was built in the mid-to-late 60s.

[Martin]

Thanks, Isaac and Bill for your input. 

 

Maybe the simplest thing to do would be to make wider side pans, but I will try the F1 bodies I have first. 

[Pablo]

Hey that's a winner and I love it    Lots of great craftsmanship going on there. Look at the little gizmo on the left side to brace the motor by screwing it in   Given the quality of the build, I would say it had to have been purpose built for a specific body and I'll bet that type body exists sitting in a drawer somewhere. Maybe mine? Give me the WB, GL, width and distance apart of body mounts and I will look.

[Martin]

I did notice the third screw to secure the motor.  I will, for sure to take some measurements.  Thanks Pablo.

 

The more I see and collect these type of chassis the more I think that the open wheel anglewinder had a longer run than just the short period in the Pro ranks.

 

There must be more examples out there.

 

This body and beautiful build comes to mind with its open motor box area.

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[Martin]

Chassis arrived today, so I took some measurements.

 

Wheel base is 4 and 1/8"

 

Pans are 1 and 3/4" wide.

 

Guide lead is 3/4"

 

I will clean are up and take some pics when I get some more time.

[Bill from NH]

Maybe Pablo's body will fit with minimal cutting?

[Pablo]

The Lotus 49B repop from Mid-America, as far as WB, GL, and 1 3/4 width, would work.

 

The specs on my car were WB 3.875 + GL 1.0 = 4.875

Your chassis WB 4.125 + GL .75 = 4.875 = 4.875

 

Bill says it's a 26D. Assuming that's true, I can't guarantee a 26D would fit.

[Isaac S.]

The lotus body will be a tight fit on the tall 26D. Im not sure what will work best but you might see if some of the Indy car bodies will work. They are taller usually.

[Martin]

Thanks for the interest guys.

 

I will try the Lotus 49B,good choice Pablo. I like this body. Good news it shares the rear axle to guide dimension as your build.

 

I will see what motor fits the chassis, as soon as I get a brake.

[Martin]

Had some time to drop a 26D in, so you can see its not built for that. But we have winner with this other D can motor ?

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[Isaac S.]

The D-can (a full size 16D) looks like the perfect size. 

[Pablo]

The real question is, which of the 2 motors sits at ground zero with the EB and screw mounting holes lined up? I hope it's the 16D but I wouldn't bet against Bill's eyeballs seeing it as a 26D chassis. Drum roll, please, Maestro .......

[Bill from NH]

The motorbox in the initial photos look smaller than it actually is. Thus my assumption the chassis was for a 26D. Is that orange motor a D-can or a C-can? Looks like C to me, but we all know how photos can distort size. The  can's endplate is cut like a C-can rather than a D-can too.

[Isaac S.]

I didn't think about that, it does look like a C-can. I just got 3 D-can's so if you want compare measurements I'm all ears. 

[Martin]

This body seems to have the correct bulge's in the right places.

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[Isaac S.]

Ah, the STP Turbine. Looks good on the chassis. Could be made into a great body. 

[Martin]

This is a Lotus 49B body Isaac, but it does have a Lotus turbine look.(except for the V8) Probably because it has been made wider. It is an old original so I will get a new one from Mid America, Same body as Pablo used I think?

 

I found an original in my random body draw. Notice the exaggerated motor bulge. Is that on the re-pop from Mid America?

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[Isaac S.]

 

Your right, I don't know what I was thinking. I guess the Lotus 49 and 56 have a slightly similar look though. I have no idea how the Mid America body will match.