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[Bill from NH]

Rob, I expect to see any race cars you may build to be built to the same high quality!   

[Mike Patterson]

I dunno, I think you should have striped on both sides of the braid, just for conventions sake. It looks unfinished.

 

Beautiful job on the track. Wanna come build me one?  

[Don Weaver]

I think I like the single stripe, especially on the smaller, tighter home track - but to each his own...

[Bigdogbro1]

Hi there everyone!  I have been doing the area cleanup, organizing the build debris and pitching out scrap.  We have been running on the track and have experienced good lap times and traction using silicone Quick Slicks.  Although the rubbber NSR tires and others seem to work we are running 99% silicone tires.  Tires, chassis setup and weight tuning are key for any wood track.  I have a few track records running a Toyota GTOne Revoslot car with quick slicks on the rear.  Not really chassis tuned yet but it seems to stick great on the epoxy track surface, 5.531s on the white lane.

 

I have created a Youtube channel and have posted a few videos to get started.  The channel is named Stingray Speedway and the link is:

https://www.youtube....blMQ6T41RLHlggg

 

Thanks to all who have commented and contributed.  Special thanks! to Steve Ogilvie for his input and support.  I feel good that I have contributed a track to the hobby that will live on for many years providing enjoyment to those who watch and drive on the track.

 

I will continue to post here, and on the Youtube channel when I have interesting content.

 

Will return,  Rob

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[Bill from NH]

Neat videos Rob. I liked the Legend but have not actually run one.

[Bigdogbro1]

They are a fun little car to race but require some work first.

 

  The Super Tires brand silicone tires seem to have better performance on my wood track epoxy surface on some cars vs. Quick Slicks (silicone).  Quick Slicks has a tire to fit the Legend stock rear wheels #PN150XF.  I contacted Super Tires and encouraged them to look into producing a few new tires in sizes they did'nt have.  They expressed interest and will develop a tire that replaces the PN150XF size.   I also run the Sloting Plus SP101004 long deep wood EVO black guides as they come and extra weight on the wood track in the stock Legend chassis.  This will be for our Legend Stock class use but we also are running a super modified class that the only thing factory Pioneer is the body.

[Bigdogbro1]

Hi Everyone,

 

Been busy with a few around the house and family things.  The 81ft track is performing very well and it's fast.  Watch my brothers the White Legend in the white lane fly by at around a 5.3s laps.  One of my Super Modified Legend cars holds a 5.16 second lap time record.  I wanted to get you all some video of the track as of yesterday.  We will be running a Stock Pioneer Legend class that allows for a slot guide (Slot.it EVO wood guide), silicone rear tires (Quick Slicks CB150XF) and some additional weight up to 100g.

 

[Dave Crevie]

What a great home track. I suspect it will have the same effect as lighting up a grill in your back yard. You start with a couple close friends, and soon there are ten guys waiting in line with empty plates.

[Bill from NH]

Nice video Rob! The car on white lane is fast, I assume that must be one of the Super Modified Legends. What are you doing to them other than maybe a motor & gear change? Or is each one built a little different than the last? Do they use the stock chassis or do any have scratchbuilds of wood, plastic, or brass? These look to be a lot of fun to run. Enjoy!

[Bigdogbro1]

Nice video Rob! The car on white lane is fast, I assume that must be one of the Super Modified Legends. What are you doing to them other than maybe a motor & gear change? Or is each one built a little different than the last? Do they use the stock chassis or do any have scratchbuilds of wood, plastic, or brass? These look to be a lot of fun to run. Enjoy!

Hi Bill,

The white Legend is a super modified version.  Pretty much everything except the body is different.  It uses my custom designed 3D printed lowered chassis that lowers the entire car 3mm with about 1mm track clearance.  My brother likes the NSR wheels and the Super Tire silicones.  The tire OD is less than 19mm and it has a wide stance.  We use the Slot.it EVO deep, long wood guide flag, Predator or Piranha 25k BB motor, Slot.it pinion, NSR spur gear, and some other goodies.  My fastest Legend Has run 5.16s lap and was faster than the NSR Moslers.  I have seen a 5.01s lap on the screen but couldn't verify it.  A stock class Legend with rear Quick Slicks 150XF tires slot EVO guide and 21g of weight run around 6.3+ seconds.  We run the stock class races because everyone can afford and handle that class.

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[Bill from NH]

Thanks for the feedback, Rob. That was the sort of info I was looking for. I'll probably never build one, but I have some old Champion Legend bodies in Lexan, if I ever did.

 

Your 3D printed chassis with the lowered track clearance is probably the biggest "speed secret" you've added.

[Alchemist]

HI Rob,

 

Excellent track build and video!

 

Thanks for sharing.

 

May I ask please, if you could provide pictures of your chassis.

 

Is the car pictured above 1/32 scale? - I presume that because you mentioned NSR.

 

Did you also print the body?

 

Thank you Rob.

 

Ernie

[Bigdogbro1]

HI Rob,

 

Excellent track build and video!

 

Thanks for sharing.

 

May I ask please, if you could provide pictures of your chassis.

 

Is the car pictured above 1/32 scale? - I presume that because you mentioned NSR.

 

Did you also print the body?

 

Thank you Rob.

 

Ernie

Hi Ernie,

 

Yes it's a 1/32 scale Pioneer Legend car body on my 3D printed chassis.  The guide flag is not a Slot.it as I posted earlier, but a Slotting+ EVO deep wood guide (SP101004).  I have not yet finished my chassis design for myself.

[Bigdogbro1]

Hi Everyone,

 

I wanted to post that I have set a new track lap record (Red lane) with my super modified Legend car.  Although these cars are low end quality we still adore them and have over 30 of them between us few.  My earlier record was 5.16s and did a bit more tunning to get a 5.07s lap. 

 

If anyone knows of an aluminum wheel for a 3/32" axle that fits the stock Pioneer Legend tire and Quick Slicks PN150XF tires I would like to here from you.  The plastic wheels on these cars are terribly out of round and wobble to run our stock class.  So far the CB Designs 15x7 are close.

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[Bill from NH]

A class of low-end competitive cars is just as much fun to race as high-end speed demons. I've raced both over the years. I can't help with your aluminum wheel question. If you don't receive an answer here, other places you could ask are the Home Racing World & Slot Car Illustrated boards.

[jimht]

Rim fitments from Professor Motor:

 

Description  

QUICK SLICKS EXTRA FIRM Compound for stock Pioneer Legends rear wheels - Rounded Sidewall Profile. Specs 0.860" (21.85mm) OD - 0.340" (8.65mm) Width

<span font-size:="" 10pt;="" font-family:="" &quot;arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;"="" style="box-sizing: border-box;">Slot.it 15x8mm / 16.5x8mm / Alfa 33/3 / Ford GT40 / Mazda 787B / Mercedes Sauber C9 / Porsche 956 / Porsche 956 (EVO6) / Porsche 962 / Porsche 962 (EVO6) / Toyota 88C / Audi R8C (original) / Chaparral 2E / Ferrari 312PB / Ford GT40 Mk II / Jaguar XJR6/9/12 / Lancia LC2/85 / McLaren F1 (RAW) / McLaren M8D / Nissan R390 (RAW), NSR 15x8mm / Ford GT40 Mk II / Fiat Abarth 500 / Ford GT40 Mk IV / Ford P68 / Mosler MT900R / Porsche 917K, Ninco Mini-­-Cooper / Rally / PRORACE 15” #N80718, RACER SIDEWAYS Capri & Lancia, SCX Morgan Aero 8 / Rally / Seat Cupra GT / Tuner Car 2 / BMW 320i, Racer Capri / Lancia, Sloting Plus 14.6x8.0mm / 15.0x8.0mm / 15.9x8.0mm / 16.2x8.5mm, Artin Mercedes CLK/ Porsche GT1, Cartrix BMW / Porsche

CAN ALSO FIT THESE RIMS (outside diameter will vary) : CB Design 17x8mm, Slot.it 17x8mm, NSR 17x8mm, Sloting Plus 16.5x8.5mm / 16.9x8.5mm

[Bigdogbro1]

A class of low-end competitive cars is just as much fun to race as high-end speed demons. I've raced both over the years. I can't help with your aluminum wheel question. If you don't receive an answer here, other places you could ask are the Home Racing World & Slot Car Illustrated boards.

Hi Bill,

 

I have created a stock Legend class to race which the rear tires are Quick Slicks PN150XF silicones and the guide flag is a Slotting+ (SP101004) EVO deep wood.  Added weight of 14g in front of the motor and 7g behind (stick-on 1/4oz black steel wheel weights from Amazon).

 

Everyone can have fun with a $60 car!

[Bigdogbro1]

Here is a view of the basement layout and cleanup.  The track has been performing great and getting plenty of laps.  Follow my Youtube channel 

https://www.youtube....raySpeedway-u3q

for videos of the track and activity.

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[Bill from NH]

Nice looking race room Rob!

[Bigdogbro1]

Hi Everyone,

 

I have been a bit busy with fall yard and a gararge cleanup but I have had time for slot cars and made a video of the track.  I have been putting laps on the track and enjoying the fruits of my labor since completed.  The track measures around 11ft x 20ft footprint. 

 

The track call buttons are N.O. and are connected in PARALLEL, not series.  Use a good quallity button for best results.

 

The Arduino power is 9v DC, not 7v.  The USB laptop cable to the Arduino has no power going thru it, only data.

 

[Mark Onofri]

Big dog, believe it or not, you've got the hardest thing already done for you. A walk out basement. A basement with stairs has always been a deal breaker for me. Not to mention the air circulation is not as much of a problem with a walk out basement.
Ps: the video went to Dakota Johnson, not a bad thing but....

[Bigdogbro1]

Hi Everyone,

Wanted to post some information I captured from my build and put it into a usable format for those of you wanting to know how to calculate dimentions for a wood track banked turn.  I hope this makes sense to you as it was a little tricky for me as well to vision.  This method was offered to me by Steve Ogilvie the track builder in the 70s, 80s and 90s.  I hope I have captured it correctly as explained to me.  It worked for me as you have seen in my previous posts.

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[Bigdogbro1]

Hi Everyone,

 

I have been enjoying the new track with friends and family over the last year and have been tweeking the Race Coordinator Timing Software setup to finally get it running as I want.  Having the Legend cars with the wide rear tire stance can get a bit tight in the 4" OC lane spacing if the cars slide in the turns when side by side.  Not always a issue but it happens.  For this reason I have created custom two car only on four lanes race heats with an open lane between the two cars when only two of us are racing.

 

In RC go to Race Setup then Heats and look for and click the "Custom Rotation" button, see the "Custom Rotation Files" box and click "Rotation Editor" box.  Follow the link below to get the setup you like.

 

 https://www.slotforu...=1#post-2734064

 

I will be showing in the next few days a track surface cleaning tractor I have designed and built used to pull a damp rag around the track to remove any dust.  It is built with Rock Crawler 1/18 scale rear axle and wheels/tires which are waiting on arrival today.  More to come.

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[Mike Patterson]

Having the Legend cars with the wide rear tire stance can get a bit tight in the 4" OC lane spacing if the cars slide in the turns when side by side.

This is how you learn to drive. There is supposed to be some skill involved.

[Bigdogbro1]

This is how you learn to drive. There is supposed to be some skill involved.

When friends new to the hobby come over with their new car(s) and want to enjoy some races this is a good safe setup.  I can race just fine because my cars are tuned for my track but newcomers aren't there yet so I split the lanes so my cars don't get damaged.  Thanks for your insight.