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#226 Dave Crevie

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Posted 31 January 2024 - 10:40 AM

At the beginning, the Lola GT had it's own dedicated magnesium wheels. Shown pretty good in this shot;

 

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The Mecom car had large flares added, and used the wide Halibrand wheels for the 427SC Cobras. 

 

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You have the right wheels on your car.

 

Jay Leno did a segment on the original GT, with Jerry Grant;

 

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Look how tiny the car is. Augie Pabst nearly killed himself in the Mecom car at Riverside in 1964, when he hit the Aarmco barrier straight on, and went under the cross rails. He was nearly decapitated. He called the car a rolling death trap.






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Posted 31 January 2024 - 11:35 AM

Hopefully my slot car version handles better than Mecoms. 😉

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Posted 31 January 2024 - 01:27 PM

If it runs as good as it looks, it's in the bag. Ferrari inserts come out OK?



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Posted 31 January 2024 - 05:28 PM

Not yet. I thought I had a good mold but it had too many bubbles. Ive since converted a pump can into a pressure pot and have a great mold. Now I just need to get a great resin/epoxy. Im gonna try aluminite next.

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Posted 31 January 2024 - 05:53 PM

Ferrari inserts,  you mean I made molds to make my own instead of buying them.   :dash2:

Any way these are done now :heat:  

 

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....and now painted.

 

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Posted 31 January 2024 - 06:18 PM

That method works. It's how I got started as a teen. Paul is looking for the Cromadora Pentastar design. He has one to copy.



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Posted 31 January 2024 - 11:17 PM

Nice build. I like the homemade body mount and use of clips Instead of screws looks nice!
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Posted 31 January 2024 - 11:21 PM

Ferrari inserts,  you mean I made molds to make my own instead of buying them.   :dash2:
Any way these are done now :heat:  
 
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....and now painted.
 
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i might have to private message you and pick your brain about making molds and what products you use. i tried just recently with copying revell wheel inserts with kneeded eraser as a mold and jb plastic weld! didn’t come out to good to say the least but was using what I had laying around.
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Posted 31 January 2024 - 11:27 PM

Ive always been a clip guy. The Asps I have use screws as a factory design but those get switched out to stainless Allen screws. Everything else gets homemade body clips.

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Posted 01 February 2024 - 08:48 AM

Martin those look great! Are they going on a Dynamic of yours?

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Posted 01 February 2024 - 10:57 AM

Thanks Paul, took way too long to get good ones then have to turn them down to fit the wheels etc.  No, they are for a pair of scratch built Ferrari F1 cars.

 

Mark, I am off the same mind. Use what I have on the bench. I used Easy mold silicone and I actually did use JB weld for the inserts.

It  machine very nice. These two products come in handy for making small parts.

 

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Posted 01 February 2024 - 11:31 AM

i might have to private message you and pick your brain about making molds and what products you use. i tried just recently with copying revell wheel inserts with kneeded eraser as a mold and jb plastic weld! didn’t come out to good to say the least but was using what I had laying around.

 

I can post the same instructions I gave to Paul;

 

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This is what it should look like at this point before pouring the silicone.

 

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A couple of hints to make all this easier; After the mold is filled with resin, before it starts to cure you can use a ruler or some other straight edge to level the resin to the top of the mold. This will make less sanding of the back of the finished insert to fit in the wheel.

Making multiple molds makes casting quicker and wastes less resin. (More often than not, you will need different molds for front and rear inserts)

Make sure the master part fits in the wheel the way you want it to. Otherwise you will have a lot of fitting after molding. 

If you are only going to make one or two inserts, you can use whatever materials are handy. But if you need a lot of inserts, use a quality mold rubber and resin. I buy my materials from Eager Plastics, but since they are only sold in 5 gallon buckets, I would gues that is not an option for slot racers. The Alumilite kits sold at Hobby Lobby and Michael's are very good. A little pricey, but if you don't waste much, you can probably make 5 or 6 molds and get 25 or so inserts. Smooth-on is another good supplier, but since they are also an industrial supplier, you may end up having to buy more than you need. Fiberglass resin works for the castings, but the catalyst attacks the silicone rubber, so you won't get many casting out before the mold falls apart. I found that the mold putties don't always pick up the detail I want. 

 

For masters, you can use the wheels from plastic kits. Most likely you will have to cut them down to fit the slot car wheels you are going to use. Again, make sure that they fit before making the mold. Some of the masters I had to make from scratch. I used Nyrod nylon rod for this, and used a lathe to machine the outside to fit the wheel. The inside details were done in a high-speed CNC router. I did my own 3D models at 10 to one, then reduced them to make the CNC program. 

 

I have been making resin parts since the late 1960's, starting with model railroad products. I learned a lot from a friend who worked for Arrem Plastics, making resin castings. For many years he had a small side business making resin bodies and parts for the car model market. 

 

 


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Posted 01 February 2024 - 01:39 PM

Great tips thank you! Id like to cast drivers heads too but that seems a bit more involved with what Im sure would be a two part mold. i need to go to the art store I think they have a whole isle for mold making.
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Posted 01 February 2024 - 05:14 PM

Drivers heads are actually pretty easy. If you can get a head with shoulders, that is best. But in any event, sand the neck flat and glue it to the bottom of the cup just like you would for a wheel insert. Fill the cup to 1/2 inch above the top of the head with GE RTV1000, or Alumilite High Strength 2 silicone. These are softer and more pliable than the other silicones, and will allow you to work the casting out without damaging the mold or casting. I did lots of drivers, plus little people for model railroading layouts. 

 

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I cast the worker in this machine shop, plus many of the other figures around my layout such as the man working on the Mercedes race car.

 

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Posted 01 February 2024 - 07:28 PM

oohhhhh Dave I didn't know you had a McLaren insert!  :D


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Posted 02 February 2024 - 10:47 AM

I did. They are Revolution wheels used by several race car manufacturers. I had a set mounted with slicks for my F/Prod Spitfire. Still had them up until a few years ago, and are what I used to make the masters for the inserts.

 

This is the original design;

 

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Revolution had a few variations of this design, including the one with the recessed lug holes so that shorter lug bolts could be used. McLaren used those. That's the one I used in the picture of the cup. I also had the style pictured, which is what I used on the Spit. They also made wheels for Lotus and other cars.

 

I'll look and see if I have a set in the junk box if you need them.



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Posted 02 February 2024 - 11:16 AM

I still checking out your (HO?) machine shop . Very cool Dave.  With a Mercedes race car parked out back no less.


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Posted 02 February 2024 - 12:42 PM

O scale. My eyes aren't good enough for HO.  :sarcastic_hand:  All the machinery is belt drive, the jackshafts are inside the removeable roof. ( Not shown )

 

The factory transporter for the Mercedes is usually between the two buildings, but I took it out to show someone and haven't put it back yet.



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Posted 27 March 2024 - 12:39 PM

An interesting car I snatched BIN quickly for a good price. Never had a Pittman 6001 before. strange car seems like something someone probably build 20+ years ago. old fiberglass body is not period korrekt to the motor and has a sunburst guide and old repop urethane rear tires.

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Posted 27 March 2024 - 02:25 PM

Great score Mark, an early car. Love the header detail.

I would like to know when fiberglass bodies came on the scene and were popular ? Before my time for sure.


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Posted 27 March 2024 - 03:04 PM

Mark, great find on your Cooper. Those Pittman motors may be 50+ years old. I have one I got in '67 or '68 & they were available before then. I recall the Sunburst guides but can't remember when I used them. It may have been during the late 70s or mid-90s'. I think they were a re-pop of the Jet.

 

Martin, there was an Aussie fellow named John Bacon who was making fiberglass bodies, I believe into the 90s if not later. He was making both 1/32 & 1/24.


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Posted 27 March 2024 - 03:44 PM

For my first kit built car, using the adjustable Gar-Vic chassis we discussed in an earlier thread, I made a fiberglass body of a Maserati birdcage. Guys in the local clubs and private basement tracks during the late 1950's were making fiberglass bodies. I remember seeing that type of body well into the 1960's, when vac formed clear butyrate bodies came along. I also made Jaguar D-type and Ferrari Monza versions, in plaster molds I made from die cast push toys. I began vac forming those bodies in, IIRC, the fall of 1963.  



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Posted 28 March 2024 - 02:05 AM

there was an Aussie fellow named John Bacon who was making fiberglass bodies, I believe into the 90s if not later. He was making both 1/32 & 1/24.


And Betta in England still produce their Classic line of fiberglass bodies and have done for well over 60 years.
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Posted 06 April 2024 - 02:09 PM

Just a quick peek at the Mclaren with "wheel inserts". Yes, Dave was right . Once you start using them you can't stop! I have Ferrari and T70 inserts already made. Now I just need the time to work up the wheels for them...

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Posted 06 April 2024 - 03:37 PM

Those wheels with the inserts will really make that car.







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