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[Keith Tanaka]

Thanks Bob!

I remember the Mike Morrissey "how to" laying on our track's counter for a year or so!

Not doubt a mis-print but I wonder how the Steube Gang advanced a 3 pole motor a 144 degrees?

I believe Bill Steube wound some arms with the wires attached to the com tab on the opposite side of the armature.
In other words, instead of soldering the wires directly to the com tab adjacent to a "pole", he soldered the wires to the com tab for one of the other poles. 144 degrees would probably equate to 24 degrees advance.

Keith

[Mike Steube]

Hey, Jairus. This is a jaildoor race, remember? I hope all of the cars look similar. Thanks for the Russkit how to post.

[Tex]

I just read the article. I found it refreshing that Morrissey confessed to not really knowing what makes a chassis work, that he considered what makes a chassis handle as "black magic". What he said he does is the same as what Mike Steube does now.... build and build again until you get one that works at the particular track you are running at. No substitute for elbow grease. Oh yeah, elbow grease AND racing against the toughest competition you can find. He intimated that knowing what makes a chassis work or having a great chassis doesn't count for much if you can't drive it. One must test one's mettle in competition, over and over, to have any chance at doing well.

[Bill from NH]

These Russkit how-to sheets were included in some Auto World chassis building kits. Thanks for showing them to us again, Bob.

[68Caddy]

Jairus
I need to ask you a favor where is that commercial raceway up in Oregon that you test your cars?
You see me and Flygirl is taking a road trip to Washington State to visit some of her relatives and I thought it would be cool
to stop at different Raceways heading up North, nice way to break up the trip.
Anyone that has suggestions it would be appreciated.


Nesta

[Jairus]

Depoe Bay Raceway on Highway 101!

[68Caddy]

Jairus
Thanks for that it really helps I bet Flygirl is going to love it?
OK there must be more Raceways between San Diego and Seattle?

Nesta

[Jairus]

They have weird hours so call the number to be sure. I will be there this Saturday about noon. The operator is Mark and he is way cool!

[68Caddy]

Jairus
Thanks for your help and I sure got your #
I will get back to ya, thanks man but I'm sure surprised there must be more tracks traveling up the coast?
Sorry I won't post anymore about my travel plans on this tread.(sorry Mike S I guess there is a lot more that I need to learn)


Nesta

[Prof. Fate]

Hi

I have a few old friends around the country who haven't raced since about 67, and they STILL referr to "a morresey".

I don't know about "god" status, but he did warp a lot of teen age minds!

Fate

[Toremeister]

I could use a change in pace far as building. I'm not going any faster with what I've been doing, so maybe I can go faster by going slower, if that makes sense.

Retro bodies these days are designed for the 3.125 width. Maybe sqeezing them to 3.0 won't look too funny. I'd like to give it a try. If you stay with 1/8 axles, then you have a couple of points positive for those hate to sleeve crown gears.

If there are still plenty of original TSR motors out there, that would be more in keeping with the era. Falcon 7 and TSR D3's would likely be a handful for handling.

Seems to me that #30 wire was not being used in '66. even in rewinds at least not in small town Pismo Beach. Maybe #32 or #31. For sure there were no such magnets as in the Falcon 7's. A lot more rolling and coasting were the order of the day.

Yessir ,I agree with Mark here (to many horses) if the cars are gunna be overpowered with the FK's,simply buy a 10 foot role of 20 gauge wire and choke em down,Alpha sells a pakage for $6.35.,,,,,,,,,,I don't think over-powering these cars is gunna be fun,so,simply mandate a set number of feet of leadwire so Everybody wont be wall to wall !!!

[Mike Steube]

I've been testing my Jail Door car on both the King and the Flattrack. The car at 110 grams was turning 4.9 to 5.0 sec laps consistantly with no deslots on the King. I added weight, to the drop arm only, bringing the car's weight up to 130 grams. It was turning 5.5 to 5.6 sec. lap times consistantly with no deslots on it's own. Driver error caused the deslots. I understand your concern with the power issue. I suggest you build a car and drive it, tune it and then discuss what should be done. I didn't know what an old jail door car could do until I started playing with one. And neither do you guys. Tell everybody what you know, not what you think. It's the best way to help the program along and to stop rumors from spreading around. Thanks for your interest in the program.

[Mark Wampler]

Hi Mike. Intrique is the fuel of SlotBlog!

I guess from the lap times that the corners are painfully slow. Seems likes its hurry up and get to the corners. Have you tried the Kingleman yet?
I'd sure be down there puttin' in the time if I were local

[Mike Steube]

Once I get the car geared and tuned right I expect 4.7 to 4.8 on the King and 5.2 to 5.3 on the Flatster. Not to bad for a 43 year old design with covered wagon size wheels.

[Mark Wampler]

Once I get the car geared and tuned right I expect 4.7 to 4.8 on the King and 5.2 to 5.3 on the Flatster. Not to bad for a 43 year old design with covered wagon size wheels.

That might translate into 5.0's for me and Mike B on the King , but practice makes perfect. It helps to have natural talent too.
Oh no, Mike B isn't jealous

If ya had that old Cox controller, That might add a tenth or so too...

[The Bugman]

every body here talking loud and saying nothing,,the only one doing anything worth while and TESTING EVERYDAY is Steube and you guys are bustin his,,,,,,BAL**,,,,,,,,,,,,,,chops,,
build one and test the frIggin thing yourself and then make your own comments,otherwise youre just blowin smoke,up everyones rear end,,,ITS ALL BS,,from you guys

[Jairus]

Okay, back to the cars.... I have a question. Since I have always been driving my TSRF and FK motors with a digital controller.... what OHM resistor will work best if run with an analog controller? Reason I ask is I have a neat MRC thumb controller here loaded with a 7.5 ohm. However, I also have a couple of 2.5 ohm resistors that can be dropped into the controller if that works better.
Ideas?

J

[Mark Wampler]

every body here talking loud and saying nothing,,the only one doing anything worth while and TESTING EVERYDAY is Steube and you guys are bustin his,,,,,,BAL**,,,,,,,,,,,,,,chops,,

Hey Osc, I can make some noise, cuz I'm not a local there. So, if I built one and tested on our famous Paperclip, whatz that to ya?
Apples with Apples DEWD!

Guess I can post a 4.0 on the Paperclip with a brass wonder and wow everyone, eh?

Its good to see a lot of people posting in record numbers on the newest fad happening on SlOTBLOG!

Jail door rides are rocking

LV ya Oscar

BTW I'm expecting some proxy rides coming my way...

[Rick]

I have noticed the Jail Door cars are morphing into something that was not implied in the beginning of this thread. What's it going to be? 3 rail, 4 rail, 5 rail, half rails, etc. Will it be a proxy race? You have to remember, not everyone lives on the left coast...................

[Mark Wampler]

Morphing is inevitable. Staying true to the original pattern is where honesty meets the track.

[Rick]

Morphing is not inevitable, only if its going to be permitted. Originally it was stated 1966 and early 1967, but half rail chassis have been given kudos. I am confused on what direction to take. IMO, the rules should state amount of rails permitted, including half rails, yes or no. I know it's difficult to unlearn what happened after early 1967.

I built a Billy Steube copy and was told it was not "in the spirit" of the time frame?.......

[Mark Wampler]

Guess you have to copy exactly what Mike posted. This will be a spec class.

[endbelldrive]

Hey, Jairus. This is a jaildoor race, remember? I hope all of the cars look similar. Thanks for the Russkit how to post.

Hi, Mike...I seem to recall building what I thought were 2 or 3 identical chassis per race back then...and they all handled differently!

[Darkron9]

Okay, back to the cars.... I have a question. Since I have always been driving my TSRF and FK motors with a digital controller.... what OHM resistor will work best if run with an analog controller? Reason I ask is I have a neat MRC thumb controller here loaded with a 7.5 ohm. However, I also have a couple of 2.5 ohm resistors that can be dropped into the controller if that works better.
Ideas?

J

Jairus,

I have my old Parma Turbo from the 70's. I installed a 3 Ohm resistor so that I can use it as a backup D3 controller. I'll make it a point to try this out the next time I go to the track.

Ron

[HarV Wallbanger III]

I think you will need a 4ohm at least for the flatser track with a TSR CanAm Ron but what the heck try it and let us know as I was going to do it as well for backup.