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#201 Pat McGee

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Posted 16 September 2014 - 02:49 PM

Bought a new razor saw, so...

 

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Posted 18 September 2014 - 02:56 PM

Cleaned it up a bit.

 

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Posted 19 September 2014 - 12:47 AM

Why revisit the insanity? :)
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Posted 19 September 2014 - 07:48 AM

Revisit? You mean we left the insanity??


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Posted 19 September 2014 - 03:48 PM

Pat, you know I highly appreciate the innovative initiative you are taking here, so don't read any of this as a discouragement to finish this.

 

Since this, apparently, has the plastic floor holding the magnets up away from the rails, it certainly meets the criteria of what is intended to be a gravity class car. The only point I can see to re-orienting the motor 90 degrees would be to move the polar moment of inertia larger about the roll-out axis; you get that with the brass pan, which is more dense than plastic or ceramic magnet and lower to the ground, so I'm not seeing "it" yet.

 

If there is another objective, I would like to hear what you have in mind. You just may discover some great packaging or performance advantage that no one could have foreseen - I look forward to the results of testing.

 

Also, I'm very much looking forward to how you will hold the gear plate down!

 

Keep it in the slot (you may have the magic formula that shows us the path we should have all gone and changes gravity racing forever!),

 

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Posted 19 September 2014 - 05:10 PM

You never built one of these in the day?  You were smarter than many..... I seem to remember a few rolling around right before the magnets dropped to the pan.  Can't remember where I saw one first.  I built one.  Don't think I ever "raced" it.  You don't have any more magnet over the rail, and turns out having all that mass hanging out there made 'em tippy, if I recall.  Just one of those odd thoughts we all occasionally succumb to.... :wacko2:


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Posted 19 September 2014 - 05:48 PM

Very cool. Yes, you are right, I scratchbuilt a car (back in the day) with the magnets spaced out wide. My thoughts were to create an encircling steel can to draw the magnet flux lines in and to increase the polar moment of inertia (I could not express it in technical terms then, it was just a "feeling") to avoid tipping. It may turn out that it increases tipping and promotes roll-out de-slots.

 

I look forward to seeing this fleshed out with your present day attention to detail (much better than either of us would have done it back in the day), thoroughly developed and tested. Like I said, you might be on to something good.

 

Also, you can run your lead wires straight back from the pickups to the brush tubes!


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Posted 19 September 2014 - 07:18 PM

Just before our group of guys stopped racing and headed off to college.
Steve Herrick built an Afx with this sideways orientation. He not only did this, but also shorten the geartrain and turn the armature upside down. The brush tubes were on top.
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Posted 26 September 2014 - 07:08 PM

Just get a nice 902 and put the brass weights in it!! you'll have a nice driving NEW car with great parts!!  About $60!!  Handle great and would be a great class of racing!! :)


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Posted 02 October 2014 - 02:29 PM

It won't stop...

 

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Posted 02 October 2014 - 07:33 PM

That looks very "clean"!!


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Posted 07 October 2014 - 02:29 PM

Rollin' right along...

 

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Posted 16 October 2014 - 06:03 PM

Shaker and pin tubes.

 

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Posted 23 October 2014 - 12:36 PM

Hey. Pat! How does it run?

 

Joel, my  A/FX and four-gear cars will be just that, mine.  I sell the T-Jet based cars on eBay and they are well received, sold quite a few.

 

I have realized I need some cars of my own to race. The last two times I ran on Mike Lowe's track was hopeless. Mikes track is huge and cool as hell. However it has a very textured surface that makes it fine for magnet cars but difficult for these cars.

 

I arrived with these new cars having never been on any track, and it was like poking myself in the eye with a sharp stick. You see, all the good Gravity Unlimited cars I make get sold, and the only ones I have are the klinkers. I have built Gravity racers that when tested on the second or third lap were clearly way fast and Main event if not winning cars. I sold them on eBay they got shipped to Tasmania and Sakahlin Island!  So now I am rethinking all this.

 

So now with some running on Mcvitti's track I got them more sorted out.

 

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Posted 23 October 2014 - 12:55 PM

I hope to make one of the Midwest series races,maybe at Rick's or at Lucky Bobs. So I will need something to race.

 

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I was wondering If I was wasting my time making this thing but it runs surprisingly well.

 

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I wound some 35 wire arms for these cars. Yes, I have my moments of madness.

 

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Posted 23 October 2014 - 01:19 PM

Having tried all sorts of stuff I am now back to making wire cars. We know these work very well. While Joel is perfecting his car, I have been taking stabs at all sorts of things in search for an advantage. But now it is clearly time to get these in the hands of racers who can win.

 

I also plan on recruiting a few old winning racers to see if I can get them into racing these. The G-Jet thing has sort of played out in the Chicago area and I would love to see what guys like Pat Cole, Steve Medanic, Mikey Wontorski, can do against Joel, Doug, Bob, and Scott. I want these in the hands of winners.

 

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Posted 27 October 2014 - 04:57 AM

Al,

 

Your cars are right there.

 

Pictured is my Landshark that finished second at the Nats in the capable hands of Tim Miller!

 

Keep up the good work! Hope things work out to see you.

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Posted 28 October 2014 - 07:56 AM

A recent build by John Reimels. John has certainly put forward a gravity race design with a high level of workmanship and a very interesting float design that emulate a 1/24 scale approach.

 

Lets all keep building them!

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Posted 18 November 2014 - 12:53 PM

Landshark now has ball bearing motor brackets in .032" or .025".

 

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Posted 31 December 2014 - 08:53 AM

Happy New Year, all!

 

Yes, the gear plate clip looks a bit agricultural. Needs sorting and a hotter arm, but this thing runs surprisingly well!

 

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Posted 31 December 2014 - 04:48 PM

Pat,

 

So "old school" but so cool!

 

I am told Carl Dreher made one of these from a T-Jet (and Ron from today's Riggen bought all Carl's stuff on eBay, I thought, so he must have it now) and I scratchbuilt my own and still have it (very little A/FX except the gear plate, armature and magnets).

 

Perhaps, you can be the first one to make one that works and is competitive within the Gravity class rules set! Looking forward to seeing it in action!


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Posted 02 March 2015 - 10:31 PM

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Rick Derosa named these paperclip chassis.


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Posted 05 April 2015 - 11:15 AM

Dennis on The Slot Lodge is recopying TCP pans.

 

Here's one I put a T-Jet chassis on like Doug Morris. With a Yellow Jacket performance armature.

 

Love the paperclip chassis!!

 

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Posted 18 April 2015 - 10:05 PM

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Can you tell me where to get this motor?
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Posted 15 May 2015 - 10:19 AM

Lucky Bob's has these motors. They can also be found through various sellers on eBay.
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Posted 18 May 2015 - 11:08 PM

Oren,

The thing with these motors is getting the right specification. Steady supply is problematic. The ones with Neo magnets are the best.

Get at least two motors from Lucky Bob and a Landshark motor bracket.
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Posted 18 June 2015 - 03:34 PM

Great news! Pat Dennis said Ron put Riggen site back up.

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Posted 20 August 2015 - 10:59 AM

These have been popping up on the bay. Just the name Gorski makes me want to use the pans for a build.

Check out bay for more.

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Posted 27 August 2015 - 12:39 PM

Anyone with information on this aftermarket company? They were from Colonia, NJ.

Only other part I saw was HO brass chassis pans.

Thanks,

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Posted 31 August 2015 - 05:54 PM

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Posted 06 September 2015 - 02:15 PM

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This is my gravity car.
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Posted 06 September 2015 - 02:22 PM

Awesome.

Feather HO motor. LOL.

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Posted 06 September 2015 - 02:32 PM

Cut down FF050 ceramic mags, stock wind arm.
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Posted 04 October 2015 - 04:39 PM

I tried a 2.5 ohm arm in it but couldn't drive it.

I also tried one with more can removed and custom-fitted poly mags but it picked up the pin.

The car is now named the torsion abortion.

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Absolutely love this thread...
 
I'm a huge fan of the Brass Era cars...!!!
 
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Posted 13 October 2016 - 11:42 PM

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"Everything you love, everything meaningful with depth and history, all passionate authentic experiences will be appropriated, mishandled, watered down, cheapened, repackaged, marketed, and sold to people you hate." Von Dutch [Kenneth R. Howard] 1929-1992
."If there is, in fact, a Heaven and a Hell, all we know for sure is that Hell will be a viciously overcrowded version of Pheonix." Dr Hunter S Thompson 1937-2005
"Whither goest thou, America, in thy shiny car in the night?" - Jack Kerouac 1927-1969
"Hold my stones". Keith Stone
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#239 Matt Sheldon

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Posted 20 October 2016 - 01:30 PM

Al,

 

What body is the last pic?


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Posted 21 October 2016 - 06:34 PM

Matt,

I think that is a Parma Schkee. Parma doesn't make them any more so I took an old one and made a mold and make them myself.
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."If there is, in fact, a Heaven and a Hell, all we know for sure is that Hell will be a viciously overcrowded version of Pheonix." Dr Hunter S Thompson 1937-2005
"Whither goest thou, America, in thy shiny car in the night?" - Jack Kerouac 1927-1969
"Hold my stones". Keith Stone
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Posted 21 October 2016 - 06:37 PM

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"Everything you love, everything meaningful with depth and history, all passionate authentic experiences will be appropriated, mishandled, watered down, cheapened, repackaged, marketed, and sold to people you hate." Von Dutch [Kenneth R. Howard] 1929-1992
."If there is, in fact, a Heaven and a Hell, all we know for sure is that Hell will be a viciously overcrowded version of Pheonix." Dr Hunter S Thompson 1937-2005
"Whither goest thou, America, in thy shiny car in the night?" - Jack Kerouac 1927-1969
"Hold my stones". Keith Stone
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Posted 19 November 2016 - 11:47 PM

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"Everything you love, everything meaningful with depth and history, all passionate authentic experiences will be appropriated, mishandled, watered down, cheapened, repackaged, marketed, and sold to people you hate." Von Dutch [Kenneth R. Howard] 1929-1992
."If there is, in fact, a Heaven and a Hell, all we know for sure is that Hell will be a viciously overcrowded version of Pheonix." Dr Hunter S Thompson 1937-2005
"Whither goest thou, America, in thy shiny car in the night?" - Jack Kerouac 1927-1969
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#243 tomacci

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Posted 21 December 2016 - 01:01 PM

Absolutely love this blog, really impressed with everyone's craftsmanship!

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Posted 22 December 2016 - 03:24 PM

Just joined the group, loving all the creativity.

Some brass cluster gears for the AF/X. One 14t and one 12t.

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Posted 23 December 2016 - 12:50 PM

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Welcome, Tom.

The white gear on this one has 22 tooth instead of 24.
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"Everything you love, everything meaningful with depth and history, all passionate authentic experiences will be appropriated, mishandled, watered down, cheapened, repackaged, marketed, and sold to people you hate." Von Dutch [Kenneth R. Howard] 1929-1992
."If there is, in fact, a Heaven and a Hell, all we know for sure is that Hell will be a viciously overcrowded version of Pheonix." Dr Hunter S Thompson 1937-2005
"Whither goest thou, America, in thy shiny car in the night?" - Jack Kerouac 1927-1969
"Hold my stones". Keith Stone
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Posted 23 December 2016 - 01:25 PM

Thanks for the welcome Al, and Greg Wells, too.

Here are the gears mounted.

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Posted 27 December 2016 - 10:00 PM

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This is a blast from the past, from !974 or so...

And now...

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"Everything you love, everything meaningful with depth and history, all passionate authentic experiences will be appropriated, mishandled, watered down, cheapened, repackaged, marketed, and sold to people you hate." Von Dutch [Kenneth R. Howard] 1929-1992
."If there is, in fact, a Heaven and a Hell, all we know for sure is that Hell will be a viciously overcrowded version of Pheonix." Dr Hunter S Thompson 1937-2005
"Whither goest thou, America, in thy shiny car in the night?" - Jack Kerouac 1927-1969
"Hold my stones". Keith Stone
My link

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Posted 28 December 2016 - 10:29 AM

Nice work Al, very precise! I'm still working on my technique.


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Posted 28 December 2016 - 10:54 AM

Really liking the hand-fabbing parts so I took the next step. Bought an R-Geo chassis jig and some special order jig wheels and axles from Scale Engineering.

Next build, a sidewinder Landshark with a Riggen style motor mount.

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Posted 06 March 2017 - 04:15 PM

This is my last build, a z rail sidewinder with a bronze center rail. This was inspired with conversations with Mike Swiss. It won one race this season in the Midwest Series and a top two car in my box.
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