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#101 sidejobjon

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Posted 18 May 2012 - 01:55 PM

Doug,
Can you send better picture of your Chassis after i posted it ,i saw how bad this picture was?
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Posted 04 June 2012 - 01:10 PM

Guys,

I thought I would send a race report (from my perspective - a better race report is on another HO specific blog site).

I Doug's car was "zippy" fast down the straights; as fast as my 40 year old Tyco can scratchbuilt (still together after all these years - and not a bad car - just too touchy on silicone tires!)

Pat's cars were SOLID handling cars but did not have the zip on the straights.

I worked on my 40 year old A/FX scratchbuilt Pan car and it was the most "solid" handling car of the bunch, very consistent and zippy fast on their straights with a modern JL X-Traction arm (old A/FX gearplate). The crown gear started slipping so I tried to super glue it in place. It managed to wick all the way to the top of the gearplate and stuck the idler down. I repaired it only by transfering the arm to a replacement old A/FX gearplate that Scott Terry had laying around and did a "proper" bonding of a new crown gear (again, from Scott). It was the fastest car in my quiver (including the loaners) but had worn the silicone off one of the rear tires, forcing a last minute switch back to Doug's reliable (but ailing) car.

The fast car Doug sent me was very tired - I got the last laps the tires had to offer in practice and, when cleaning the motor, noticed that the comm was worn out, too. It became the car I raced but it was inconsistent - sometimes zipped down the straight, sometimes was slow, sometimes had brakes, sometimes didn't. I think I put too many practice laps on it and practiced my way out of contention. With a thoroughly worn out car, I finished right where I qualified - in the middle of the field.

Still, it was fun racing the Gravity class and it lived up to everything we hoped it would be when the old BRASCAR group came up with the original rules set (I think this group actually improved the rules set). You could call this group the non-magnet "open" series as the cars only have to pass the "pin magnet test" and pass through the tech block to race.

There was an absolutely amazing diversity of technical approaches demonstrated all the way down the field! I am sold! I wish we raced these in CO! Pat, my two cars are ready for your track! When are you going to host a race?

Keep it in the slot,

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Posted 06 June 2012 - 07:10 AM

Doesn't suprise me that my cars were down on horsepower, all with standard/stock Aurora "mean green" arms. I'm taking it for granted they did run at least 18 volts? Congrats on the good runs in gravity and T-Jets, AJ, looks like you've still got it (or, never lost it.....).
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Posted 19 December 2012 - 09:21 AM

I was able to get pickups & motor mounted last night. Still need to do Gear mesh.

little motors

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Posted 29 December 2012 - 11:44 PM

Hmmmm...... 4 A/FX chassis, 4 vintage Thayer Racing Shells Eagles, and a sheet of brass......

 

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Looks like trouble to me.....


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Posted 30 December 2012 - 01:28 PM

Did you forget this?

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#107 Pat McGee

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 02:12 PM

Heavens no, you can't forget the assembly lube!        :drinks:


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Posted 30 December 2012 - 03:36 PM

Al,

This looks more you.

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 09:24 PM

I've finally been able to get most of the parts. I'm lacking the bearings/bushings for the rear axle, threaded rear axle (if they're still available) and rear tires.

 

I'm thinking of turning my own hubs. I'm not sure if I should make single or double flanged hubs. I'm planning on doing a lot of scratch building on this.

 

Suggestions?

 

Thanks,

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 06:00 AM

A Flock of Eagles, continued.......

 

All carved up and no where to go.

 

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Nearly time to cut some brass......

 

And, I guess I never knew this!  Funny what you find on the internet....... http://en.wikipedia..../Gurney's_Eagle


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Posted 10 February 2013 - 12:01 AM

My hand made chassis from a few years ago modeled after the riggins. Are those chassis blocks still available???2013-02-09_22-49-02_951.jpg 2013-02-09_22-49-18_890.jpg



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Posted 10 February 2013 - 09:00 AM

Kevin,

Looks good, contact Rick at rgeo for jig hes here on the blog not sure if he still makes HO Jig.

http://www.rgeoproducts.com/

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 02:04 PM

Thanks John I will. I wish his sit didn't use java I could only see a few things on his site. there is a major exploit in java that allows a pc to be taken over by a hacker and why I do not have java installed anymore



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Posted 10 February 2013 - 11:53 PM

A Flock of Eagles, cont......

 

OK,OK, I know Eagles are not flocking birds, but these seem to be nesting together.....

 

Finally found time to get back down to the slot cave (aka the HO House...), brush tubes installed and wired, and the four rough cut pans.

 

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 11:16 PM

A Flock of Eagles, continued......

 

More progress.  No, I'm not the prettiest builder (cars or me!).

 

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 11:16 AM

SIDE JOB GARAGE introduces Chappy III

Here is some pictures of a  limited run  I been working on with Robert Kinney there will be 12 Running Kits . Starting to reserve sales now. 200.00

Body will be by Noose, Brass super II style top plate, Brass guid pin,16 ohm Yellow Jacket purple Arm not shown, brush cups , Treaded oring fronts & treaded oring silicone rears. Part can be upgraded with standard TJET or speed parts.

Thanks For looking

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 04:36 PM

SOLD OUT

Thank you

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Posted 04 April 2013 - 09:12 PM

A Flock of Eagles, on hold......

 

Real life, mucho work, and lots of family/grandkid stuff has kept me away from the "HO" house, should be back at the build in a few weeks.

 

Before I forget, though, many thanks to Gary Rider, Ken Shepard, and Doug Morris for coming through with the Thayer Eagle bodies, enough that I just may build a second set of cars!

 

Stay tuned.....


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Posted 20 April 2013 - 08:45 AM

A Flock of Eagles, continued....(finally!)

 

Got one of 'em rolling!  Now, on to the shaker, and body mounts.  will figure those out before starting the other 3.

 

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 10:34 AM

Pat, that really brings back a lot of special memories!

I'll bet an IROC race with these cars would just be a blast!

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 05:10 PM

Those memories are just why I'm building these!  I recall some epic battles (you, me, and Raisin in particular) on WHORA's Pipewrench!


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Posted 01 May 2013 - 10:59 AM

Look at these babies NOOSE did for my little Motors.

Thanks Noose your the best

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Posted 01 May 2013 - 11:59 AM

hey sjj  i,m diggin the f-1 chassis nice man! you mentioned lil motors? what are you using for the f-1 cars? i do like the front end/suspention. very good


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Posted 28 May 2013 - 02:08 PM

Are TycoPro motors worth using in a scratch build? I've got several and it seems like a waste to not use them.

 

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Posted 28 May 2013 - 07:01 PM

Mike,

 

The Tyco can was the basis of the fastest scratchbuilt cars until the Aurora A/FX based pan cars took over (not always faster but smoother, easier to drive and just made more laps in the hands of a capable driver). Sometimes the can was a structural member of the chassis (and the motor parts put in after the soldering was done) and sometimes it was soldered in on top of a complete brass chassis.

 

It was soon proven that building the chassis with the motor can flush with the bottom of the car (not motor on top of the pan) had a significant handling advantage due to lower CG. That does not leave a lot of room on the sides to put bat pans so many opted for shakers (like the Riggen cars).

 

When the A/FX pan cars started dropping the magnets down flush with the bottom plane (closest proximity to the steel rails), the "pure" gravity racing was over and magnets were the name of the game.

 

When an "out of the box" G-plus could run faster than that, I was done.

 

There are LOTS of very good parts available for the Tyco style motors and lots of cool innovations on the endbells to make adjustments on the brush spring tension. In fact, some people made arms that were WAY too fast for ANY of the clickety-clack T-jet lock-and-joiner tracks of the day but those arms work great on modern tracks. 

 

The "Gravity" racing has made a resurgence and I am astonished at the variety of chassis designs that work well (as seen at the Midwest Championship Races in Milwaukee a year ago).  But newer, lower, smaller and lighter can motors are becoming cheaper and easier to find and allow some additional design freedom for scratchbuilt cars. That seems like the way to go, but the Tyco cans will make all the speed you will need, in my opinion. 

 

Keep it in the slot,

 

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Posted 28 May 2013 - 07:24 PM

Any one know where to buy an old Tub Track?

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Posted 30 May 2013 - 08:11 AM

John,

Where is it planing to be located? Did you try Yahoo group?

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Posted 01 June 2013 - 06:11 PM

Any one know where to buy an old Tub Track?

http://neophytte.min...c_id=1140036385

John

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One for sale its the two piece copy.

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Posted 19 July 2013 - 04:24 AM

A Flock of Eagles, continued....

 

Here's #1.  Five to go.....

 

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Car's really been finished and running for awhile, just no time now for slots!


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Posted 19 July 2013 - 11:03 AM

now thats what i,m talkin bout!    man that looks like that chassis will /does handle good.was wondering how the body is secured? 4 posts?and what arm is in there? i,m guessing a yellow jacket! i have made 2 of this type of build and they are fun and well worth the effort. the brush cup set-up really says it all pat. thanx for posting the flock...i was wondering what happened to,em. 


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Posted 20 July 2013 - 12:40 PM

A Flock of Eagles, continued....

 

Here's #1.  Five to go.....

 

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Car's really been finished and running for awhile, just no time now for slots!

Pat,

You are the man, how about a shot with Bodie off for me & Joe???

Thanks SJJ


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Posted 30 July 2013 - 12:31 AM

Here's a plucked Eagle.....

 

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The body mounts are kind of jury rigged, threw them on to take the car to play in Denver a few months ago.  #2's body mount system will be the same but different :wacko:, change will be retro fitted to this car.  The body can be mounted lower if you chamfer the front of the chassis and gear plate as we did in the day, but I'm not going to bother on this series of cars, they're built for play.  Joe, they'll all be powered by 6 ohm mean greens with Dash magnets.

 

Here's the latest build, this will have "trailing" bronze wipers.

 

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A solid pan version is up next.  Started this one for A.J., but I kinda like it.....

 

Hi, Nelson!!

 

 

 

 

 

 


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Posted 30 July 2013 - 09:51 AM

Pat, what are Dash magnets? I think a lot of us racers want to know.


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Posted 30 July 2013 - 10:14 AM

Dash Motorsports T-Jet magnets, a lot of Fray guys use them.  Not quite as stout as my best Super II's, but a lot cheaper and easier to find, and will pass the lift test.  The Eagle has Super II's for now.  If they're not on the website, you can usually find them I think at Balls-Out or Lucky Bob's, or other suppliers.   http://dash-motor-sp...resta/index.php


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Posted 31 July 2013 - 06:48 AM

very cool pat i,m likin t he latest chassis that you have under construction. hummm trailing wipers ya say? plz post a pic of what that looks like when you get time i,m kinda curious. seems i get distracted when i see pics of what folk are buildin these days but building new chassis are on hold due to the work i have to catch-up.  but this winter i can see a new chassis in my mind just like the pics show!!  the flock is lookin nice man! dont look back they might be gainin on ya!


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Posted 15 August 2013 - 01:54 PM

Those bring back a lot of memories!


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Posted 08 September 2013 - 11:26 AM

Here are some pics of the wiper retension system I have been developing for the last few month.
I didn't show pictures of these before the Big Shot 2 race.
With this system the wipers never get messed up in the race, so you can keep on racing and not lose time trying to realign a wiper!2013-08-07 12.43.32.jpg 2013-08-08 21.06.04.jpg 2013-07-29 06.14.57.jpg
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Posted 08 September 2013 - 12:17 PM

Nice upgrade Mike--- the wipers keep aligned better than  way I'm sure!!


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Posted 08 September 2013 - 03:45 PM

Mike,

Looks Cool how about a top view?

SJJ


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Posted 08 September 2013 - 04:24 PM

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This is the prototype. It also styles a 3 point mounting system that allows the G3 chassis
to flex more to soak up the torque loading when punching the car. It tames the issue a bit to make
the car more stable coming off a turn.

The podium cars at the "Big Shot 2" race are all Doug Morris built or design cars.
One was a pickup shoe car and the others were wiper cars that I incorporated the wiper
retention system into. They were "wheel" by Rick Jocham, Dale Yamashita, Gary Morgan.
The cars ran flawlessly, with the wiper cars having no de-arrange wiper in any "off"
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Posted 15 September 2013 - 07:13 PM

bbr thanx for posting the pics of the wiper set-up. it,s cool to see what folk are doing so i can get an idea what is possible and what works! nice job on all.i spect i,ll try something like that this winter when it,s slotcave time all the time.what a great way to pass a long winter...experimenting with the lil cars.


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Posted 29 September 2013 - 04:39 PM

Mike,

 

I see that the pick-ups are tucked up into the chassis on the trailing edge. Are they attached to anything or do they just stick up in the square hole?

 

That's why we all wanted a top view but it is not clear where they go at the trailing edge.

 

Pretty cool stuff!

 

Keep it in the slot,

 

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Posted 30 September 2013 - 03:41 PM

Mike,

 

I see that the pick-ups are tucked up into the chassis on the trailing edge. Are they attached to anything or do they just stick up in the square hole?

 

That's why we all wanted a top view but it is not clear where they go at the trailing edge.

 

Pretty cool stuff!

 

Keep it in the slot,

 

AJ

there is a "z" bend on the end of the wiper so the wiper is going nowhere. once the wiper is adjusted properly it will not get tweaked during a crash.


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Posted 02 October 2013 - 04:33 PM

My buddy "tjet tyco.JPG Chappy" is Maching these , Brass TYCO JET

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Posted 02 October 2013 - 09:06 PM

Slick!

What is with the yellow and red endbells ?

Mike, next run of frames I have done will have slots cut to allow your pickup wiper setup to be done.  I like it and think in the near future it will be the way to go, Hats off to you sir! :hi: 


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Posted 04 October 2013 - 07:32 AM

sidejob i picked up 2 of the chappy chassis one like shown and the swing arm type. i had hopes to install the bigblock motors from chapperal however cuz the lead wire are  different than the older style can motors they are now going into the landshark kits that i have in the (to be built) shelf! just a question? is there a parts vender that sells mo powerful mags for the older cans and a hotter arm for the same? diggin the brass carz!!


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Posted 04 October 2013 - 10:06 AM

Joe I am out of endbells with carbon brushes. We may be SOL if Mabuchi does not care we have them. What is manufactured in the past is all we are likely to be stuck with.

My source has teased me saying he has more motors tucked away in his warehouse. He makes his money reselling medical equipment and will not get off his fat a$$ to dig them out. I find this typical because of the volume we deal with . 

In November I hope to have my foot in the door at a place that has a 3d printer.  I have a vision of an endbell that is old school Tyco style that you can use Tyco brush barrels or modern "Bigfoot" brushes. And straight up timing too for Wizzard Slottech arms.  I hope it will work out as I think it would solve a big problem.

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Here is one with lights . It uses the tiny N10 Mabuchi motor. 

Its on Ebay now!


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Posted 04 October 2013 - 12:12 PM

Joe,
I rebuild the older tyco pro cans with 440x2 mags and arm. If you want I can send you a couple motors? Oh boy Joe, I look forward to seeing you getting them running. The yellow and red on the bells is tape to insulate the brushes.
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Posted 05 October 2013 - 06:27 PM

RKinn "Robert Kinney" Is the Machinest that made these.

They have a great old school Gravity feel.Its amazing how the Can motor snaps right in.

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 07:21 AM

This car was in Model car magezine June 1968.

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