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#151 Gator Bob

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Posted 06 April 2014 - 08:24 PM

:shok:  :good:   A possible 2-11 in progress. :sarcastic_hand:


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Posted 06 April 2014 - 08:56 PM

I wasn't involved with the body of this car. I had my hands more than full trying to replicate the rest of it!
 
But I do know this. Adam LOVED to have Jairus and Noose paint bodies for him. He once told me he loved art, and they were artists.
 
He had multiple bodies painted for many of this cars. We would talk about a new project and the first thing he would say is, "OK, I'll get the bodies painted!"
 
Anywho, I sure would love to have that car back. Pro's like Joel could bang a chassis like that out. As for me..........
 

Even with all Steve O's great pictures we still could not find an axle brace for the end bell side of the chassis. Joel came to the rescue with a perfect picture of what it looks like and it's really cool. Trouble is, when something looks really cool it's usually not easy to make. Here are my first five attempts and the tools used:

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YIKES! Persistence, lots of pliers, and luck resulted in success:

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Here it is installed:

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..............every step was a challenge!


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Posted 06 April 2014 - 09:44 PM

It is a crying shame that this car and its mysterious owner "Adam" has disappeared. :frown:  Too much work and love was put into it by many people to result in such an dubious outcome.

 

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Posted 07 April 2014 - 01:01 AM

Hi Bill,

 

Adam had a real love for these cars, as I do. We really hit it off. I don't know what happened. But I do know that bad things happened to even good people in our "great rescission"..............I wish him all the best.


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Posted 07 April 2014 - 09:02 AM

He still might show up some day. :)  Socal has had a lot of people drop in & out of the hobby.


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Posted 26 January 2015 - 08:34 PM

I remember running upstairs at the lane changes with Joel's car to get the motor cool.  Full glue racing had its drawbacks.  I'm still looking forward the completed story on the reproduction of Joel's race winner.  Its great piece of slot car history.  I built one for myself when I got home from the Nats.


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Posted 26 January 2015 - 08:46 PM

Mine was not that pretty.


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Posted 23 November 2017 - 10:05 PM

I was at this race as slot shop is/was home track...the power was an issue ALL week.....funny thing is Jim Bandes did Ken Macdowel a favor a few years prior and him and i went to the airport

 

to pick up one Philippe de Lespinay from Cleveland airport.....Jim said how will we recognize him....i  said we look for a guy with one small carry-on luggage and wearing a pinstriped shirt with

 

the sleeves rolled up...and that's how we found him


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Posted 23 November 2017 - 10:45 PM

:laugh2:

My wife burned that shirt. I will never forgive her! :D


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Posted 26 November 2017 - 04:02 PM

Its been a long time but i remember a story involving Philippe and Jack-in-the-box "restaurant" i still find the story inspiring, I drive a small hyndai accent with manual transmission and can hardly see over all the SUVs and pickup trucks around Ohio


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Posted 17 December 2017 - 04:44 PM

Questions, please:

-Why was the forward pan hinge tube made so long? Aesthetics? No prevent a gap where air could enter?

-Capt. Rick, how far did both your hinge wires extend inside the tubes?

-What is the function of the straight piece of wire atop and between the forward pan hinge tube that extends rearward from the 90 degree bend of the forward pan hinge wire, back to about the chassis midpoint? To stengthen the hinge tube? It surely has a long enough solder joint to make it strong, eh?

-On the race car, were all 3 pin tubes used on both sides, and why did Joel feel the need for 3?

 

Thanks


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Posted 17 December 2017 - 04:57 PM


-Why was the forward pan hinge tube made so long? Aesthetics? No prevent a gap where air could enter?

Strength. The front hinge was always the one you tore off in a wreck



-What is the function of the straight piece of wire atop and between the forward pan hinge tube that extends rearward from the 90 degree bend of the forward pan hinge wire, back to about the chassis midpoint? To strengthen the hinge tube? It surely has a long enough solder joint to make it strong, eh?

For strength on the front hinge


-On the race car, were all 3 pin tubes used on both sides, and why did Joel feel the need for 3?

I’m sure he used all three. Again those 40 minute full glue races with these lead sleds tore up a lot of stuff on a high power king. Lots of money up for grabs at the time so you needed to finish to win.
 



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Posted 17 December 2017 - 05:09 PM

Thanks Tony :good:  I'm good with all that.

And I'll bet Rick didn't go any further in with the hinge wires than about 1/2" on both sides.

 

Interesting to note how the chassis were being made stronger as the motors started getting really wild.....


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Posted 18 December 2017 - 12:02 PM

Thanks for your help Tony. :victory:

 

Pablo, in the original pictures I was sent of Joel's car all 6 pin tubes are used to hold the body on.


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Posted 18 December 2017 - 12:05 PM

Motors were getting faster and glue was getting thicker.


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Posted 18 December 2017 - 12:11 PM

:good: Thanks


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Posted 25 January 2019 - 01:46 AM

Magnificent!

Hope that this car surfaces again sometime in the future.
What an amazing place Slotblog is, with the level of building documented in multiple threads & the contributions of priceless information by original participants.
I spend almost all my internet time reading thread after thread.
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Posted 25 January 2019 - 11:25 AM

Thanks Marcus. That is the most intense and accurate recreation I've ever done. Building it with Joel's help and guidance was an amazing experience.

 

It's also the one car I wish I still had.................


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Posted 08 April 2020 - 11:08 AM

Rick what awesome work. "As Mike Steube said" Sano. Wow haven"t heard that word in awhile. I grew up in South Gate, CA. Middle to late sixties with my older brother went tracks in Lynwood and Downey,CA. Not much of a racer just for fun had a couple RTR cars I think one was a cox put a lexan body on it, that was about the extent of my modifications. Saw alot of fast cars on those tracks back then. Got into Surfing and girls pretty much shut my Slot car racing off. Picked back up slot cars 2016 at a small track Vista, CA. Jim Cunningham owned it, Thanks Jim for introducing me back into slot cars. Learned of Buena Park raceway Jim Waterson got me racing Womps, then Mel Moon & Tim Balmer introduced me to Thursday night Flexie Racing, Love it. Been fortunate to have raced Flexies back in Ohio at HMS, and with the famous old Slot Shop in Eylria, my wife was born and raised in Eylria. Thanks to Matt & Justin Porter for letting me visit there and helping set up cars to race in the OCC, and Matt for giving some history about the Slot Shop. ( The Hubbles still owned the place) I have meet alot a great people in this hobby and hope to continue to maybe travel alittle and meet some more racers when all this stuff comes together. Again Rick this is about the Fabulous work you do, it has helped me alot and helped me appreciate this amazing stuff we get to do. 

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Posted 28 December 2021 - 01:58 PM

Hello commander Thigpen,

 

It has been a long time my friend.  I have been living in London and filming Documentaries for the BBC and it has been uhmm interesting.  but I am back and would love to chat also see if maybe (was it Steve????) who had pics of Monty's Coca Cola car it is a holy grail.    I hope you are well and avoiding the plague.  I tried your email but it was kicked back.   

 

So great to find Slotblog again and hear the various and sundry comment on your unreal abilities.

 

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Posted 28 December 2021 - 07:42 PM

Hi Adam,

 

Boy it's been a long time.  Nice to hear from you. I've sent you a PM.

 

Rick


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