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#26 HarV Wallbanger III

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Posted 12 May 2012 - 06:36 PM

Thanks, Ron... got you fooled, too...

I'll have to look a little closer at it... And you are right, Ron; you can see the bearing support is a P/S!
My bad... now where did I put those 10X glasses!
This is first gen new endbell I did...

He used the old endbell mold and changed it to produce the first new one (to use all the old hardware up) then changed it again for the latest endbell and new hardware and smaller screws that I designed. I could not find the latest endbell after the change...

Of note, I tried to get Woody to go for smaller 5mm bushings on both ends of the motors but he would not and wanted 6mm. As far as I know Mura still is using my can and endbell design on some motors but they added the variable timing motor can now I think.

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Posted 12 May 2012 - 06:38 PM

And no the can did not have the tubes you see in the pics... that was another project I was doing a couple years ago... don't ask... I'd hav'ta kill ya!

Oh and another reason to wait is The Nats are coming the first week in August and the track will be re-braided so I would rather wait till late Aug or Sept. to start this shindig!

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Posted 12 May 2012 - 06:47 PM

Guys, I just got back. barely. Engine overheated cause I need a new radiator and had to pull over and dump in a gallon of water and half gallon of antifreeze that I had, just for such an occasion.
Here it is about an hour ago about 17 miles out of Salem cooling down.
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Weather was hot! But car ran flawlessly (other than the radiator)for the 240 miles I put on her today.

Okay, this is a correct 1970 early Mura "C" can motor. The endbell is a cut down "B" can piece that someone drilled vent holes into. (That is legal because it predates 1970.) The can, if one notices, does not have the axle clearance cut into the sides and NO bussbars. This is want I want to see because it portrays the very best of what was available in 1970.
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Jens, if you were to combine the yellow endbell with the 2-hole can then you might have something worth using. Of course it will need careful assembly, magnet zapping and the right arm to make it scream. The buss bars can be cut off simply by reversing the left hand base plate and cutting the bar down till it's nothing more than a tab sticking out vertically instead of at the top and bottom horizontally. Since these motors are to be mounted in-line, there is NO reason for buss bars anyway. I can suggest a wonderful motor builder who can make that motor sing with a nice re-wound arm if you have the time. ;)
All you have to do is send him both of the first two motors! Or just send the last (4th pic) because that one could very well work!

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#29 Ron Hershman

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Posted 12 May 2012 - 07:48 PM

Also white Wasp was sold by Parma as the Womp-Womp motor.
The Mura Super Wasp was white.
The GR-12x came with a dark red endbell.


Like I said and if you had read closely ( maybe you need Barn's 10x glasses?? ) you would see I said " at one time" :)

Gee Bob they also came with blue dyed endbells at "one time" as well.... do you have any idea what motor(s) those were on?

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Posted 12 May 2012 - 08:04 PM

While y'all are arguing over EB colors, I'm installing a pair of duffies on to a REHCO bracket :laugh2:
Using a handout Speed FX D can as a jig motor :D

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Posted 12 May 2012 - 08:13 PM

"Once upon a time" - I left an informational post that Ron took as a challenge to his informational post.

I'm OK, You're OK. oops . . Hooked the child.

Let's see if I can clean this up - " slot car motor manufactures at any given point time in history used various colored endbells"
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Posted 12 May 2012 - 08:18 PM

Bob, stop sparring with Hershman, and build !! NOW !! Darn it !! :laugh2:
Hershman's name is not even on the List :laugh2: :bomb:

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Posted 12 May 2012 - 08:25 PM

Hershman's name is not even on the List :laugh2: :bomb:


If I had time I would be on that list...... you may see a few of my motors in some cars ;)
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Posted 12 May 2012 - 08:43 PM

OK Ron, seriously, I like the sound of that challenge. :) It's not about winning, it's about racing :good:
But I really need to win this one :laugh2: :dash2: :crazy:

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Posted 12 May 2012 - 08:50 PM

Ron,

Do you have any Thingie body molds?

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Posted 12 May 2012 - 09:03 PM

Ron,

Do you have any Thingie body molds?


Not at this time ;)

Well maybe..... some think the new Mc Laren M7A or the TI-22 R is.... LMAO
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Posted 13 May 2012 - 05:25 AM

Hi All and thanks again for your help!!!

Found one more that seems to be unused. Bought it from "Piccomat" maybe in the early 70s:

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Posted 13 May 2012 - 07:45 AM

Jens, that is a latter "B" can Mura. The last of it's kind actually and exactly what I'm using. How's it run?

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Posted 13 May 2012 - 08:43 AM

I checked on the Electric Dreams website and could not find any "Choti" bodies. Are they listed under a different name?
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Posted 13 May 2012 - 09:08 AM

Well, it appears that they pulled that one. -_-
I don't understand, I gave them lots of lead time, advertising and a fistfull of possible buyers.
Must be another reason.

Looks like Ray is going to be busy this year. Contact Ray Fellows for a Choti body at: Ray57one@yahoo.com
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Posted 13 May 2012 - 09:21 AM

go thru Ray Fellows,i wrote him Friday,,,and sent him a Paypal amount,
and my stuff will be in the mail very quikly,
now thats GREAT SERVICE !! :good:
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Posted 13 May 2012 - 09:43 AM

Contact Roger at Mid America Raceway. He has them in stock.

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Posted 13 May 2012 - 10:18 AM

Jens, that is a latter "B" can Mura. The last of it's kind actually and exactly what I'm using. How's it run?



Jairus,

first step should be done: I have a motor! Seems to run well. Should be like new.

Have to dig for more parts in my boxes!

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Posted 13 May 2012 - 10:57 AM

Contact Roger at Mid America Raceway. He has them in stock.


Good call Mike! I found it: http://shop.slotcar1...95-ELEB-033.htm

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Posted 13 May 2012 - 11:16 AM

I have in my collection of old stuff what I think is a production Mura arm tagged "Grp 7". Anyone know what it is, and if it would be legal for this event?
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Posted 13 May 2012 - 03:28 PM

If I had time I would be on that list...... you may see a few of my motors in some cars ;)

Actually Ron, I like the info you have been providing so please keep posting your thoughts. Also... I purchased a bag of Jet Flag guides from you a while back. You have more available for the entrants?

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Posted 13 May 2012 - 03:33 PM

Actually Ron, I like the info you have been providing so please keep posting your thoughts. Also... I purchased a bag of Jet Flag guides from you a while back. You have more available for the entrants?


You are welcome and how many are you looking for..... I think the last of what I had may have went to Pablo...but I may have a "secret stash" somewhere around here ;)

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Posted 13 May 2012 - 04:15 PM

What about post # 45 ?

In previous posts, I think Jairus said any arms. But now I don't see it in the rules. Maybe my eyes are tired.

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Posted 13 May 2012 - 04:44 PM

So... If I was to have a short stack (like x-12) arm rewound to say 26/26, that would be legal, in a green can???
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Posted 13 May 2012 - 05:04 PM

Any arm, any wind was what I posted in the discussion. Guess I forgot to make that one of the rules. Also forgot to mention heat sinks too...

Ron, what I am looking for is a source for Jet Flag guides. If you find you have a stash of 2 dozen... then great. If not, I'll ask Roger.

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