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[Gator Bob]

'boxerdog', on 26 Sept 2012 - 10:31 PM, said:

I love my shirt. Thx Jairus. Rather than poll builders or all of slotblog on concours, let the proxy drivers vote anonymously. After all, they get to see the actual cars, not some creative photography.

Why .... that's a good idea! One track or both?

[Gator Bob]

Got my shirt & sticker today!
Thanks Jairus !

[boxerdog]

Bob, at first I thought "both"...then I stopped to reason what they might look like after the first session Eddie's. Then I thought "first track before the race". But whatever the group thinks is fine with me, my car isn't really concours material.

[Gator Bob]

I'm good with whatever happens as long as a definitive call is made so we know what's going to happen.

The cars are the stars and deserve to be viewed and judged.

Many reasonable suggestions (some really stupid ones too) .

Jairus, please make the call.

[Edo]

'boxerdog' said

...let the proxy drivers vote anonymously. After all, they get to see the actual cars, not some creative photography.

I think David's suggestion is the best.
E

[One27ray]

I got my Tee & sticker today, looks great J.

I think the Tee should win Concours

[MantaRay]

All I know.....is that 14.3 volts on a rubbered up track will be high drama. I hope someone in silicone valley can take some pics or video.....
Thanks to Jairus, Rudy and I'm assuming Barney

And of course.......All of the entrants.......

Good luck to all

[Jairus]

Everyone here has a good suggestion.
But remember this... if only the drivers vote on concourse, it will most likely be the drivers of the first race only. Because by the second race, if any cars get smoked... they won't even be looked at for concourse. A car that can't be driven will color their vote no matter how you suggest we do it!
If it's just the 19 entrants, that lets out some of the builders who didn't enter but have still been following this race closely.
If we do a private vote no matter how restricted the voting block, someone has to be trusted to count the votes and report back.

My thoughts were that we preform the concourse based on the "Cars Thread" alone. The reasons for this are varied but the most important is that the vote is NOT based on how the car performs. Because that is judged on the track!
To that end I have to decide whether to add yet another duty to Randy, that of picking a concourse car or, more simply, follow through on my original plan of setting up a poll thread linked to the Cars thread and call it good.
Restricting the poll to just entrants is impossible electronically, but... it will be mostly just entrants and a builder or two and a few watchers who will vote anyway. Most of the other guys on Slotblog have never opened this tread! Plus the votes are anonymous to all but Cheater who can look into the electronic records, so you CAN vote for your own car if you want to.
Logic 101.

[Edo]

J
I hope people can vote only once as you might remember what happened in 2007 for the 2nd Proxy race Concourse voting, where we had people subscribing to Slotforum just to vote their "friends" (one in particular who I will not name...). A huge brouhaha ensued for days on SF's pages with a lot of uncalled doodoo flying around between mature people.
We had to get rid of the Concourse altogether to calm the "boys" down!
Actually it was kind of funny...

[Gator Bob]

'MantaRay', on 27 Sept 2012 - 1:55 PM, said:

All I know.....is that 14.3 volts on a rubbered up track will be high drama. I hope someone in silicone valley can take some pics or video.....
Thanks to Jairus, Rudy and I'm assuming Barney

And of course.......All of the entrants.......

Good luck to all

At 13.8 it was high drama ............. cars still whole' shot.

[Jairus]

'Edo', on 27 Sept 2012 - 2:56 PM, said:

J
I hope people can vote only once as you might remember what happened in 2007 for the 2nd Proxy race Concourse voting, where we had people subscribing to Slotforum just to vote their "friends" (one in particular who I will not name...). A huge brouhaha ensued for days on SF's pages with a lot of uncalled doodoo flying around between mature people.
We had to get rid of the Concourse altogether to calm the "boys" down!
Actually it was kind of funny...

I remember. I was involved in the doodoo calling if you will remember.
But we have a higher class of guys this time in my humble opinion.

[Jaak]

'boxerdog', on 26 Sept 2012 - 10:31 PM, said:

I love my shirt. Thx Jairus. Rather than poll builders or all of slotblog on concours, let the proxy drivers vote anonymously. After all, they get to see the actual cars, not some creative photography.

NO no no noooooooooooooooo

You have any idea how many photo's i had to take from all kinds of angles...not to mention the days editing in photoshop

[Jaak]

'Jairus', on 27 Sept 2012 - 2:27 PM, said:

Everyone here has a good suggestion.
But remember this... if only the drivers vote on concourse, it will most likely be the drivers of the first race only. Because by the second race, if any cars get smoked... they won't even be looked at for concourse. A car that can't be driven will color their vote no matter how you suggest we do it!
If it's just the 19 entrants, that lets out some of the builders who didn't enter but have still been following this race closely.
If we do a private vote no matter how restricted the voting block, someone has to be trusted to count the votes and report back.

My thoughts were that we preform the concourse based on the "Cars Thread" alone. The reasons for this are varied but the most important is that the vote is NOT based on how the car performs. Because that is judged on the track!
To that end I have to decide whether to add yet another duty to Randy, that of picking a concourse car or, more simply, follow through on my original plan of setting up a poll thread linked to the Cars thread and call it good.
Restricting the poll to just entrants is impossible electronically, but... it will be mostly just entrants and a builder or two and a few watchers who will vote anyway. Most of the other guys on Slotblog have never opened this tread! Plus the votes are anonymous to all but Cheater who can look into the electronic records, so you CAN vote for your own car if you want to.
Logic 101.

I hear i have at least 1 vote

[Jaak]

'Jairus', on 27 Sept 2012 - 3:15 PM, said:

I remember. I was involved in the doodoo calling if you will remember.
But we have a higher class of guys this time in my humble opinion.

you mean they have a bigger doodoo vocabulary?

*ducks and runs for cover*

[endbelldrive]

'The Bugman', on 26 Sept 2012 - 2:25 PM, said:

IMO,,,,,concours should be voted on BY ONLY THE 19 RACERS entered in The Race,
and u cant vote for yourself,,,,

I made sure I built my car ugly so no worries about the concours.

[32Deuce]

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Sorry You bailed.

Thanks for the PM Bob.

On the contrary, I think your entry and your enthusiasm are top notch. I apologize for the jokes. Didn't realize this was so serious.

Z

[havlicek]

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All I know.....is that 14.3 volts on a rubbered up track will be high drama.

Is this for real?...14.3 V? I must have been asleep at the wheel, but I thought this was going to be a 12V (nominal) race? At 14.3V, my car will probably smoke before the end of the first heat! Not that I'm whining or anything...but yikes...did they run these things at that voltage back then?

-john

[One_Track_Mind]

I hear ya John! Don't think my E/B (hi Bob) mounted Mura will last long either?
But, hey we can have a race to see who's car makes it back east first! Hahhaa!

[Maximo]

Tony P started a pool on FB to see how many cars smoke the first race or how many make it to the second race.
I'm afraid my car is toast.

I don't recall that much voltage (14.3V) back in the day!

-Max

[Gator Bob]

'havlicek', on 27 Sept 2012 - 7:29 PM, said:

.............. At 14.3V, my car will probably smoke before the end of the first heat! .............
-john

Depends on how long each heat is ....

[Gator Bob]

'32Deuce', on 27 Sept 2012 - 7:10 PM, said:

Thanks for the PM Bob.

On the contrary, I think your entry and your enthusiasm are top notch. I apologize for the jokes. Didn't realize this was so serious.

Z

Serious fun ...

[Gator Bob]

'Maximo', on 27 Sept 2012 - 7:51 PM, said:

Tony P started a pool on FB to see how many cars smoke the first race or how many make it to the second race.
I'm afraid my car is toast.

I don't recall that much voltage (14.3V) back in the day!

-Max

Not a facebooker.... but ... I'm guessing a minimum of 6 cars don't make it on to BPR. And that is if 2 min. per lane at 14.3 is the call.

I just might be one of them.

[MSwiss]

The good news is at 14.3V, the cars might not stay in the slot long enough at one time for the motors to get hot enough
to melt the endbells.

[Gator Bob]

'MSwiss', on 27 Sept 2012 - 9:33 PM, said:

The good news is at 14.3V, the cars might not stay in the slot long enough at one time for the motors to get hot enough
to melt the endbells.

I feel much better now ...

TRACK!!!

[havlicek]

I don't understand why they don't dial back the voltage? I've actually never really understood this, even with modern cars and throwaway motors. If you want the cars to go faster, use a faster motor. Obviously I'm in this thing regardless and I'm not really all worked up about winning ...who cares? Still, the race seems like it would be more fun and managable at 12V.

-john