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[endbelldrive]

I've been spending a lot of time on Steve Okeefe's Independent Scratchbuilder site lately and lo and behold: Model Car & Track - Winter 1963 Electric Motors For Racers

[dc-65x]

Thanks Bob,

We're talking about including a few more motors than in that early article. I'm scanning an article now that includes motors through the end of 1964, subject to approval, it will be posted.

[Lone Wolf]

Take a look at the motor page I posted. Published in 1964 it's pretty comprehensive. Some stuff there I never heard of or saw. I think it would great to see some oddball motors, Tradeships, Bonners, VIP etc. Why not allow any motor mods that can be substantiated ( magazine article etc. ) prior to '64 to be legal. Of course, this would put me at a disadvantage because I will most likely be running a Stocker.

[endbelldrive]

Hang on Rick... ...I think Steve O has that article on his website: Independent Scratchbuilder - MC&T March 1965 - Table Top Motors

[dc-65x]

Hi Bob and Joe,

Yup, that's the article I submitted. It has pictures of all the motors as well as their specs. Of course the Mabuchi 16D shown is a "no-go".

[dc-65x]

Our friend Pete L gave me a link to a cool sight full of scale plans for these cars. Here it is and thanks Pete

Scale Plans

[CruzinBob]

WOW! You guys are amazing! I have always been amazed with the Proxy race format but not being a "builder of cars" I watch. This really has my interest but doubtful I would participate as my time is very limited.

I will watch with great interest however and thank ALL who are involved in this great venture.

Your efforts deserve media exposure

[Jairus]

Thank you Bob!
Things are progressing more quickly than I ever would have figured. First draft of the rules are now being reviewed and might even be posted as soon as tomorrow.

[don.siegel]

Guys,

We had another thought, developed from the original idea: what about opening this up to all pre-1960 Grand Prix cars?

The original proposal was for pre-war cars, but that didn't seem to inspire too many of you. But it seems that carving a 50s type GP car would be a lot easier for us beginners than trying a sports or GT car... We could still keep the sports/GT category for those interested, but also add 50s GP cars - which were also really the "star" class at the time, and up to about 1966 or so, when the sports cars began taking over...

And did you notice that all the articles describe how to build a GP car?

Let us know what you think.

Don

[endbelldrive]

I'm all for including that era of GP and Indy car too. I think Brad Korando did a really nice Pine Wood Derby Indy Roadster awhile back and I'd like to try my hand at carving something like that or a Novi in 1/24.

[Jairus]

I have no problem dividing up the classes by scale and type. But then... how to score? A 1/24th scale car goes faster than a 1/32 car... right?

[dc-65x]

HOLY SMOKES!

Check out what Rodney's already done:

Rick,

Just finished this one. Total time 4.5 hours.
Started with the fenders and doors.
Glued sides together.
Then glued in floor (to be removed later)
Added trunk and hood.
Added head rest and engine scoop.

Rodney















Amazing!

[Brad Korando]

Hi Bob,

Wow, great memory Bob, I'm flattered you remembered my Kurtis. I used the 1:24 Monogram kit of the 1956 Filter Queen Special as the basis of the car. I scavenged many of the plastic bits and decals to make the car, but the body was carved from a block of white pine. Here's are a couple of pictures of the car.

[Brad Korando]

I have no problem dividing up the cars into classes and scales. But how to score the whole thing? Doesn't a 1/24th scale car handle better than a 1/32?

Quite honestly, I don't have enough experience in building and racing to be able to offer a qualified answer to the second question. I was thinking in terms of the GP cars and what motors would fit inside a wood body. At 1:24 you could fit most, if not all, of the in-line motors such as a Pittman 196B. At 1:32 that would be a tough motor to fit inside a wood body shell where as an MRRC Slim line or K's would fit nicely. In this comparison I think that the 196B would outperform the MRRC or K's motors.
As for the first question, perhaps the racing part of the competition be structured such that 1:24 cars compete only against other 1:24 cars and the same for the 1:32 scale cars.

Again, I really don't have a lot of experience in this sort of thing and there is a very good chance, probable in fact, that I know not what I speak!
Regards,
Brad

[don.siegel]

I would generally think we'd just run all the 1/24 cars together and then all the 1/32 cars together - if there are enough entrants, split that into sports & GP.

Beautiful car Brad!

In fact, you're probably thinking more about the 60s F1 cars: the 50s GP models and earlier have plenty of room to put in just about any motor you want, even a Pittman DC704!

Or maybe a Tradeship sidewinder - no, that's just getting silly!

Hey Rick, tell Rodney we're impressed! He makes it all look so easy, but then I see the drawings behind that model....

Don

[Brad Korando]

Thanks Don and thanks for setting me straight about the size of the GP cars. You're right of course.

I'm really looking forward to this event, and I can only imagine the smell of ozone wafting through the room as the cars rumble along the track!

Brad

[Bruce Wayne]

I'm really excited about the prospects of carving a body, so today I dug out an old pair of outside calipers to use, went to the hobby shop and bought a bag full of miscellaneous sized Balsa wood, and found another potentially useful site browsing the 'net

Although probably very challenging, I'm thinking of a 1/24 scale late '50's sports car for myself, mainly so it will be wide enough to squeeze in a Pittman 706.

Just waiting for the rules to see if making the show is do-able for me, and then hopefully joining in the fray.

[Regis4446]

It’s ok for me, I find my proxy car, 1/24 of course

[dc-65x]

Here's the latest on Rodney's body:


"Wood coated with Plasti-Zap inside and out for strength. Other glue used for assembly. First layer of putty sanded."



WEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!

He made me one too! Thanks Rodney

[endbelldrive]

Lots of curves! I love curves!

[dc-65x]

Thanks Bob.

Here are Rodney's latest efforts in our Team California Special project. Mine is still "in the white":





This is Rodney's mocked up with wheels and tires. Very So Cal 1950's road racer:



Onward

[Tex]

All I can say is... wow!

[boxerdog]

Very nice!

[boxerdog]

Am I right in assuming 3" track width and no model airplane tires, even if they are pre-64???

[Alchemist]

I was able to see Rodney's project in person at our local track a couple of weeks ago and he informed me of this thread. I always get excited when Rodney allows me the opportunity to see the progress of his latest slot car project. Very KOOL!

Cap'n Rick Sir! What color have you planned for your body please?

All moved in now Capt'n?

Thank you.

Ernie