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#101 Jairus

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Posted 25 December 2012 - 11:17 AM

Note the slot cut for the cast word "Pittman"!

Hahaha, well done Rick.  :D


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Posted 25 December 2012 - 01:10 PM

I just couldn't bring myself to file off the "Pittman" on the side of the motor to get the bracket to fit flush! :laugh2: :D


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Posted 27 December 2012 - 09:25 PM

Rick,
Words alone cannot describe your typically excellent chassis builds, both in beauty and fine craftsmanship, Impeccable only comes close.

You are surely earning a future seat in the Slot Car Hall of Fame!
Thanks for sharing your projects so generously.
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Posted 28 December 2012 - 03:39 PM

Thanks Bruce. I love shiny brass! It's fun to be able to share my projects, thanks for chiming in.


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Posted 28 December 2012 - 07:09 PM

Rick, you and Rodney have given me so much joy over the years, watching your various builds, done and documented with such amazing clarity and beauty, that I just wanted to thank you both.  Every now and then, I'll see Rodney at Eddie's and peer into his box of incredible slot cars, and suddenly I am ten years old again.  It floors me every time.

 

And also to Jairus, Dennis Samson, Philippe and all the other guys who build these incredibly beautiful velocity sculptures.  Many of them simply take my breath away with the level of sheer precision, grace and style.

 

Thanks again to all of you.

 

Incredible.


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Posted 29 December 2012 - 12:03 PM

Thanks Darryl. Rodney's work is truly amazing. So is the work of everyone who shares it with us here on Slotblog. Thanks to all of you :good:


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Posted 29 December 2012 - 08:58 PM

The body mounts are 1/4" wide brass strip. I used some long #4-40 screws to hold the mounts in place for soldering. Two mounts in front.....

 

CarNumber4-062.jpg

 

......and one in the back:

 

CarNumber4-063.jpg

 

Here's the front finished off with a Cox guide and Superflex lead wire:

 

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The back end with a Weldun spur gear and Sonic pinion:

 

CarNumber4-064.jpg

 

The finished roller just needs the tires glued and trued:

 

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Time to mount the body......


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Posted 29 December 2012 - 09:52 PM

Nice wheels!!!!  :heart:


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Posted 29 December 2012 - 10:22 PM

Hi Jairus,
 
Those wheels. I struggled with what to do with wheels. I really wanted set screw wheels but I wanted them to be bigger in diameter than the common Russkit repop "road race" wheels. I decided on this for the rears. The stock parts are on the top and the modified parts are on the bottom row. There's a Russkit Dragster rear wheel, some kind of funky Ulrich O-ring front wheel, a Cox knock-off and a 5-40 set screw.
 
CarNumber4-018.jpg
 
 
I lathe turned the Russkit wheels to a much lighter profile:
 
CarNumber4-015.jpg
 
Then I turned the Ulrich front wheel into a wheel insert. I tapped it 5-40 for the set screw and knock-off:
 
CarNumber4-014.jpg
 
The finished rear wheel:
 
CarNumber4-016.jpg
 
The front wheels were easier. They are Ulrich Halibrand threaded fronts that I reamed out to 1/8" to be "free wheeling":
 
CarNumber4-013.jpg
 
 
I cant wait to get the body mounted and see these babies on the finished car :) .


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Posted 29 December 2012 - 11:32 PM

Yu know... those are some pretty nice tricks there and beautiful wheels.  
Makes me wonder if you were going to tell us about the wheels if I had not asked... 

(I want a lathe!!!)


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Posted 29 December 2012 - 11:39 PM

Lathe-envy... ^_^


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Posted 30 December 2012 - 02:56 AM

Wow !  that rolling chassis and motor is a shining jewel.


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Posted 30 December 2012 - 05:42 PM

Too Cool!


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Posted 30 December 2012 - 06:11 PM

Wow !  that rolling chassis and motor is a shining jewel.

 

I polish everything up John because of an American saying when I was growing up, "If it don't go, chrome it!" :laugh2:

 

It was the go fast hot rod guys making fun of the custom car guys.

 

I figure if my car runs like a tilting pile....at least it I can shine it up :sun_bespectacled:   and make it look good!  :crazy: :dance3:

 

Anywho, can't work on it until the JB Weld metal filled epoxy cures. I made up 3 of these puppies and epoxied them to the body:

 

CarNumber4-067.jpg

 

That's some 3/8" diameter hardwood dowel. an unknown vintage body mount insert and screw and a REALLY short 4-40 set screw. The set screw is threaded into the insert and adjusted until the body mount screw tightens against it instead of the chassis. That way the body will have a tiny bit of rattle fit. I read about doing this in one of the old 1960's slot car magazines. It's supposed to make the car run smoother......


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Posted 31 December 2012 - 09:53 AM

Very nice work.
Always a pleasure to read the explanations for me.


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Posted 01 January 2013 - 01:32 AM

That way the body will have a tiny bit of rattle fit. I read about doing this in one of the old 1960's slot car magazines. It's supposed to make the car run smoother......

 

Rick this is a very common practice in settting up RTR plastic cars to run on wood.

 

You can have a lot or a little body float.

.But having the chassis screwed up hard to the body( ala factory) doesn't enhance performance.

 

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"Happy New Year"

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Posted 01 January 2013 - 07:44 PM

 I polish everything up John because of an American saying when I was growing up, "If it don't go, chrome it!" :laugh2:
 


...and of course the old follow up to this is "Chrome don't get ya home!" :)
I'm with you though, it has to look good or I'm not running it.
 

CarNumber4-067.jpg


Great idea to salvage and re-use those old body mounting inserts. It's also very timely that you posted when you did, as I've just finished up adding some tabs to my chassis for mounting the body, and was a little apprehensive about using plain wood screws. I'll have to put my local hardware store to the test and see if they have some similar 4-40 wood inserts.
Locking the screws is another good tip, learned from the Drag racers that a loosely mounted body makes for smoother overall running.
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Posted 01 January 2013 - 09:39 PM

Hi John,

 

Looks like what's old is new again. Seems like what worked in the 1960's still works today. That's cool :)

 

EJ's hobbies carries some of those inserts Bruce and so does McMaster Carr if you can't get them locally:

 

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 03:47 PM

one word: SANO! :)


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Posted 12 January 2013 - 02:44 AM

Hi Rick,

 

Another "museum quality" piece!   Absolutely pulchritudinous!

 

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Posted 14 January 2013 - 10:58 PM

Hi Ernie,
 
I finally got the body Rodney crafted for me installed on the finished (I hope!) car. I changed to hard compound Paul's Urethane tires and added a 1/16" thick lead slab to the drop arm. I hope that will stop it's "barrel rolling" in the turns that I had with the bigger and softer tires.
 
I used metal filled epoxy on the wood dowel body mount posts...lots of it:
 
CarNumber4-075.jpg
 
The driver is cut out of a Monogram kit with, I think, a Strombecker driver's head. I mounted him so you can see through the cockpit as was the practice I've seen pictured many times in the US period magazines:
 
CarNumber4-073.jpg
 
Here's the finished car I still need to change the number to 14 so one of our SlotForum members can run his number 4 Indy car:
 
CarNumber4-070.jpg
 
I like the wheels, they look pretty cool:
 
CarNumber4-072.jpg
 
I think the body sits pretty good on the chassis. It could have sit a little lower but the body is free to "rattle" around and I didn't want it to hit the tires:
 
CarNumber4-079.jpg
 
Time to send her off to Rodney for testing at Eddie's Slot Car World....fingers crossed for good runner that doesn't tilt!!!!!!!


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Posted 14 January 2013 - 11:59 PM

That's a thing of beauty, Rick! And, yes, those wheels look great!


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Posted 15 January 2013 - 05:54 PM

Too KOOL Rick - too KOOL!

 

Can you drill me a set of those wheels in a 4 on 4.5" bolt pattern for my real Datsun?!  LOL!  Trick wheels Rick!

 

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Posted 16 January 2013 - 12:42 PM

Thanks guys :)

 

When I first saw the body Rodney made I had this image in my head of the very first Cobra, the yellow version tested by Road & Track Magazine:

 

Cobra-RT-1962.jpg

 

I thought about using wire wheels on my car. Then I thought about the early race cars and their Halibrand wheels:

 

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The wheel wells are round with a tight gap to  the Goodyear Sports Car Special race tires which are pushed out to the edge of the body.

 

I love that look and that's what I tried to do with my car.....fun stuff!

 

 


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Posted 16 January 2013 - 02:48 PM

Hey Rick,
I think you're on to something here. :) Scratchbuilding from the ground up is really showing off the best side of this hobby IMHO!
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Posted 24 January 2013 - 06:10 AM

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Very nice work Rick and Rodney.

 

I weighed my car with all  parts, and the engine is heavy, its weight is 141 g.

 

If it is not a secret Rick, your car weighs balsa how?


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Posted 24 January 2013 - 11:26 AM

I've shipped the car off to Rodney for testing. I'll ask him he can weight it or I will when I get it back.


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Posted 24 January 2013 - 12:51 PM

This car keeps getting better...a great read, follow and learn type thread.

 

Those halibrand wheel inserts look great.

 

 

I like to mount the body with two posts at the front and one in the rear as you have done Rick.

Some cars are the other way round, which for some reason I find less effective


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Posted 24 January 2013 - 01:36 PM

I like to mount the body with two posts at the front and one in the rear as you have done Rick.
 

I have to admit that Rodney "schooled" me on that. I would have done it the other way around! :dash2: :laugh2:

 

Live and learn :)

 

I've got the car renumbered to 14 so one of our Slotforum pals can run his #4 Indy roadster. I added a little color to the car too:

 

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Hopefully Rodney can test it this Sunday......


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Posted 24 January 2013 - 04:24 PM

I've shipped the car off to Rodney for testing. I'll ask him he can weight it or I will when I get it back.

 

:good: Thank, Rick


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Posted 31 January 2013 - 11:01 PM

Hi Régis,
 
My cars weight is 6.6 oz or 187.1 grams:
 
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Rodney took her to Eddie's Slot Car World Sunday. Here she is being unloaded from the transport:
 
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There she met up with the two "test cars", number 3 and 13:
 
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I couldn't be more pleased with the track test. It's a far cry from my first outing with too big and sticky rear tires and too light a chassis. Here's Rodney's track report:
 
Your chassis design allowed the weight to be low.  The car reacts quick to transitions and also allows for smooth driving.  You just gllide from turn to turn.  Like driving a flexi car.  I noticed your car had the front wheels slightly raised in relation to the guide flag.  Cox guide flags are the best screw guides. 
 
The drop arm and chassis behaved together as a unit.  With some cars,the car wants to tilt and the drop arm exasperated this condition?  Not with your car.
 
The overall weight of the cars is not bad.  Kind of where I guessed them to be.
 
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A nice smooth and easy to drive car! That's what I'd hoped for. Time to build Rodney's car for the Proxy...the Bass Wood Car: Rodney gave his car a bit of a bass wood beef up on the fenders and she's a beauty:
 
CarNumber4-082.jpg
 
I'm going to duplicate as best I can my chassis so I'll just show a few pictures of the progress:
 
 
CarNumber4-086.jpg
 
The rear end and gearing are done:
 
CarNumber4-089.jpg
 
 
Onward :)
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Posted 01 February 2013 - 02:43 AM

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 04:56 AM

I love Rodney's track tests, and that transporter is really a nice touch!

thanks Rick!

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 03:06 AM

Rick, thank you for thinking of me, my car is near the end, and it will probably weigh 145g.


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Posted 02 February 2013 - 08:50 AM



 

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 06:40 PM

Man Regis, that museum quality work there :good: Amazing!
 
Thanks Matt and Don. I'm looking forward to getting Rodney's No.3 "Bass Wood" car up on that transporter of his. Here's the latest progress on his chassis. The drop arm with the weight "nested" over the sides of the arm and the down stop rod fit into a V-groove cut into the weight:
 
CarNumber4-092.jpg
 
It's ready for the frame rails:
 
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Posted 11 February 2013 - 05:53 PM

More progress on Rodneys No.3 car. Next up was about 4 hours of machining on the rear wheels and inserts (or less than an hour for Duffy in a real machine shop :laugh2: ).
 
This is what I ended up with. In the middle is the re-machined Russkit wheel and below it a wheel insert made from an Ulrich O-ring - 1/16" axle front wheel:
 
CarNumber4-110.jpg
 
On the left is a stock Russkit Drag wheel and on the right is a K&B wheel. I think that K&B wheel looks cool so I copied the dimensions of it to modify the middle wheel using my little Sherline lathe:
 
CarNumber4-105.jpg
 
 
Messing around with this little lathe is really fun. Here are the steps I used (yours may vary :) ):
 
Turn the flange OD's to .710:
 
CarNumber4-096.jpg
 
Reduce the front bead height from .030 to .015:
 
CarNumber4-097.jpg
 
Punch a .250 hole .050 deep with an endmill to clear the back of the soon to be Ulrich wheel insert:
 
CarNumber4-098.jpg
 
Bore out the wheel ID from .530 to .600. Polish it up with a Scotch Brite pad and some metal polish and it's done:
 
CarNumber4-100.jpg
 
The Ulrich O-ring front wheels gets its OD turned to fit the modified Russkit wheel:
 
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That big honk'n nose cone get cut back as far as possible:
 
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Lastly it's tapped 5-40 to accept a set screw and a knock-off:
 

 

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Paul's Slot Car Shop urethane K&B Stock Car Special repop tires finish it off:

 

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Time to finish off the frame..................


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Posted 11 February 2013 - 07:11 PM

Talk about quality.... I feel outclassed on every front.


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Posted 11 February 2013 - 07:32 PM

No way Jairus  :)  . Your Maserati 250F is spectacular...especially the faux suspension and steering :heart: !


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Posted 12 February 2013 - 12:30 PM

:good: thank you for sharing, it gives ideas.


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Posted 28 April 2013 - 08:59 PM

I can't believe it's been 2 months since I worked on this project :o .  I'm glad to be back on the build :) .
 
Here's Rodney's finished space frame and motor:
 
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Next it's time to put it the roller together.
 
Onward.......
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Posted 28 April 2013 - 10:12 PM

Looking good Rick! Can't wait to see the roller & finished article :D love watching as your cars come together.

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Posted 03 May 2013 - 04:16 PM

Thanks Paul :)
 
Here's Rodney's finished roller:
 
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The gears are 64 pitch Weldun and run smooth as glass. The rear axle is a Parma riding in ball bearings. The motor got a fresh zapping that increased it gauss reading about 25%. It draws .42 amps at 6 volts and after a hour of running was only warm to the touch.
 
Gotta love those Pittman DC-65X's! :)
 

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The guide is a Cox and the lead wires are thin Slick7 that look a lot like the old Marklin train wire used in the day.

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When the JB Weld on the body mount post cures I can post pictures of the finished car less the driver.....


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Posted 03 May 2013 - 06:26 PM

Wow what a piece of four wheeled model art! Beautiful looking complete chassis Rick :)

Have got a non "X" DC65 is it hard to find the x 6v version? Also what sort of gear ratio is good to run the DC65 at?

Got hold of the Pittman motor bolted to one of the dynamic cast motor brackets from a dynamic junk lot on evilpay and have been wanting to put it together.

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Posted 03 May 2013 - 06:51 PM

Hi Paul,

 

The 6V motors show up on Ebay from time to time. EJ's Hobbies has (last time I checked) 6V armatures for $5 if you want to swap out a 12V. For a gear ratio, I've been running about 4:1 with 1 1/8" tires. I think the 65 makes a really fun vintage car :)


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Posted 03 May 2013 - 06:56 PM

Thanks for the info Rick, will check out EJ's to see if they have any. Will also look for some of the weldun 64 pitch gears as they look neat & sound like they mesh really well .

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Posted 03 May 2013 - 07:27 PM

You bet Paul. The Weldun gears are amazing. They work with modern Sonic 64P pinions too. The only down side is you have to open them up for larger motor shaft sizes.


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Posted 04 May 2013 - 02:39 PM

WE'VE GOT WOOD! :D
 
Here's Rodney's Team California Special all finished except for the driver and steering wheel that Rodney will add to the body he hand carved:
 
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The neato vintage Ulrich Halibrand wheels (used on a lot of American race cars in the 50's and 60's) fitted with vintage K&B Goodyear tires on the front.....
 
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....and the same Ulrich wheel cut down into an insert and fitted into modified Russkit Dragster set screw rear wheels. The tires are urethane repops of K&B rear Goodyear Stock Car Specials. They are from Pauls Slot Cars of Canada and available on Ebay. We're using the harder compound (not his soft XPG) to help avoid "tilting" with these top heavy bodies and light space frame chassis:
 
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Here are our Team cars together:
 
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Okie Dokie.....time for a new build :)
 
Onward..........


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Posted 04 May 2013 - 04:37 PM

:good: Bravo


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Posted 05 May 2013 - 04:25 PM

Awesome team car shot Rick :D certainly a lot of quality work & time have gone into them. Good luck to You & Rodney in the proxy !!

Looking forward to what will be your next new build :D !

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