Jump to content




Photo

Got wood?


  • Please log in to reply
159 replies to this topic

#76 dc-65x

dc-65x

    Grand Champion Poster

  • Subscriber
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 5,160 posts
  • Joined: 14-February 06
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Captain Rick: The only vintage slot car nut in SW Oregon?

Posted 07 November 2012 - 01:07 PM

Am I right in assuming 3" track width and no model airplane tires, even if they are pre-64???


Period sponge rubber tires like the "Germans" pictured here in the Mini Auto packaging are OK with me (I hope the other members of the rules committee will agree??):

Posted Image

Having said that, our rather extensive testing has shown that modern repop tires of urethane like Ortmann's or Paul's of Canada work better.


I was able to see Rodney's project in person at our local track a couple of weeks ago and he informed me of this thread. I always get excited when Rodney allows me the opportunity to see the progress of his latest slot car project. Very KOOL!

Cap'n Rick Sir! What color have you planned for your body please?

All moved in now Capt'n?

Thank you.

Ernie


Hi Ernie,

I think my car will be yellow too. I suggested the color as it seemed very "So Cal" racer to me...almost "hot roddish" :D

Yes, we're all moved in but I'm really Jones'n for my own track!

Rick Thigpen
Check out Steve Okeefe's great web site at its new home here at Slotblog:
The Independent Scratchbuilder
There's much more to come...





#77 boxerdog

boxerdog

    Race Leader

  • Full Member
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 710 posts
  • Joined: 10-November 10
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Modesto, CA

Posted 07 November 2012 - 01:49 PM

Thanks, Rick. I have some period Germans and others which I wanted to try, but I have run some Ortmanns also. I will do whatever y'all recommend as within the rules. It's my wooden brick of a body that has me concerned.......and 3"???
David Cummerow

#78 dc-65x

dc-65x

    Grand Champion Poster

  • Subscriber
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 5,160 posts
  • Joined: 14-February 06
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Captain Rick: The only vintage slot car nut in SW Oregon?

Posted 07 November 2012 - 02:00 PM

Hi David,

I've put the tire matter to the other members of the rules committee and hopefully they will agree. The more period parts the better me thinks :) .

I would think that the track width should be guided by the real cars overall body dimensions. Generally speaking, I don't think it would be "Korrect" to see any of these cars with a track width over 3".

Rick Thigpen
Check out Steve Okeefe's great web site at its new home here at Slotblog:
The Independent Scratchbuilder
There's much more to come...


#79 Noose

Noose

    Grand Champion Poster

  • Full Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 21,333 posts
  • Joined: 08-November 06
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Denville, NJ

Posted 07 November 2012 - 07:27 PM

These are all very cool. Right now though any wood I have is being burned for heat so don't leave any laying around. LOL

Joe "Noose" Neumeister
Sometimes known as a serial despoiler of the clear purity of virgin Lexan bodies. Lexan is my canvas!
Noose Custom Painting - Since 1967
Chairman - IRRA® Body Committee - Roving IRRA® Tech Dude - "EVIL BUCKS Painter"

"Team Evil Bucks" Racer - 2016 Caribbean Retro Overall Champion
The only thing bad about Retro is admitting that you remember doing it originally.


#80 Tom Thumb Hobbies

Tom Thumb Hobbies

    Posting Leader

  • Advertiser
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 3,181 posts
  • Joined: 16-October 07
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Planet Earth

Posted 07 November 2012 - 08:16 PM

Still?? That sucks.

Mike McMasters
TTlogo300.jpg
460 Wilson Rd
Columbus, OH 43204
(614) 274-5150
Home of the ORIGINAL American blue King


#81 dc-65x

dc-65x

    Grand Champion Poster

  • Subscriber
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 5,160 posts
  • Joined: 14-February 06
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Captain Rick: The only vintage slot car nut in SW Oregon?

Posted 08 November 2012 - 12:48 PM

Am I right in assuming 3" track width and no model airplane tires, even if they are pre-64???


Well David, the vote was 2 against 1 so it looks like for simplicity sake, Germans are being excluded.

In the future, I'll do what I should have done in the first place.....find out what the rest of the rules committee think and THEN comment.

Sorry for the confusion guys.

But, by all means try Germans on your car. I'll have a pair made up for mine. But for the proxy race just use some Ortmann's or Pauls Slot Car Shop urethane tires (available on his ebay store).

Noose, I hope you and everyone affected by Sandy has things back to normal as possible soon.

Rick Thigpen
Check out Steve Okeefe's great web site at its new home here at Slotblog:
The Independent Scratchbuilder
There's much more to come...


#82 boxerdog

boxerdog

    Race Leader

  • Full Member
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 710 posts
  • Joined: 10-November 10
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Modesto, CA

Posted 08 November 2012 - 03:31 PM

I'm not sure the Germans would have come back to life anyway, but I may try a set just for fun. I am dragging out a handful of "no-can" cars to see which might have potential.
David Cummerow

#83 dc-65x

dc-65x

    Grand Champion Poster

  • Subscriber
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 5,160 posts
  • Joined: 14-February 06
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Captain Rick: The only vintage slot car nut in SW Oregon?

Posted 10 December 2012 - 06:00 PM

Progress report on Rodney's racer.

Rodney's car #3 is completed. It is using a Pittman DC65X (what else?  :D ), a Cox brass chassis, 48 pitch gearing at 4:1 ratio, Cox screw type guide and Paul's repop K&B Goodyear Stock Car Special tires:

 

coxchassis.jpg

 

The car ran well but Rodney wanted to try another version so he made another body :) . It's the #3 below with the stripes on the fenders. The #4 is one Rodney carved for me and it's mine.....ALL MINE! They are shown on a picture of the car that inspired Rodney's design:

 

finalwood.jpg

 

This body got an all scratch built "low CG" chassis of thick brass rod with pretty much the same power train:

 

test2.jpg

 

final4c.jpg

 

This car also ran great and was renumbered to Lucky #13 to help tell all these cars apart!

 

final4d.jpg

 

To help get all these cars to the track Rodney built a car hauler! The driver of car #13 likes his ride so much he won't even get out of it when it's on the hauler :)

 

transporter1.jpg

 

transporter2.jpg

 

The hauler is powered by a Pittman DC85 torque monster motor"

 

transporterchassis.jpg

 

Here's a look at the ladder type chassis:
 

transporterchassis2.jpg

 

Now we're done except for me building up my #4 car right? Well......no. Rodney carved a new #3 car with wider bass wood fenders :shok: . It's the one below with the red strips on the fat fenders:

 

 

 

final4a.jpg

 

The two bodies on the right are in my hands now. I'm building up a different style chassis for my #4 car now........

 

Onward


  • endbelldrive likes this

Rick Thigpen
Check out Steve Okeefe's great web site at its new home here at Slotblog:
The Independent Scratchbuilder
There's much more to come...


#84 Gary Bluestone

Gary Bluestone

    Race Leader

  • Full Member
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 658 posts
  • Joined: 24-October 08
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Canada

Posted 10 December 2012 - 07:02 PM

Amazing stuff, really like the hauler!"Take me to your ladder, I'll see your leader later" Is that the Revell 37 Ford Pickup cab ? Where do those red wheels come from?

#85 slotbaker

slotbaker

    Dan Gurney Fan

  • Subscriber
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,335 posts
  • Joined: 16-February 06
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Sydney, Australia.

Posted 10 December 2012 - 07:09 PM

Old Yeller II, yep, can see the resemblance.

Love it.

:wub:

How come right hand drive tho?

:huh:


Steve King


#86 dc-65x

dc-65x

    Grand Champion Poster

  • Subscriber
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 5,160 posts
  • Joined: 14-February 06
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Captain Rick: The only vintage slot car nut in SW Oregon?

Posted 10 December 2012 - 07:35 PM

Where do those red wheels come from?


They came off of an Ebay auction. I saw a set of blue ones there today in the 1/24 vintage section.
 

How come right hand drive tho?
:huh:


I forget what Rodney told me about them being right had drive. He made the last "wide body" car left hand drive.

Rick Thigpen
Check out Steve Okeefe's great web site at its new home here at Slotblog:
The Independent Scratchbuilder
There's much more to come...


#87 Jairus

Jairus

    Body Painter Extraordinaire

  • Subscriber
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 9,439 posts
  • Joined: 16-February 06
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Salem, OR

Posted 10 December 2012 - 08:44 PM

Well, that does it... getting my entry out for some bench time! 

Beautiful cars there Rick!  Transporter too...


Jairus H Watson - Artist
Need something painted, soldered, carved, or killed? - jairuswtsn@aol.com

www.slotcarsmag.com

www.jairuswatson.net
http://www.ratholecustoms.com
Check out some of the cool stuff on my Fotki!


#88 Alchemist

Alchemist

    Checkered Flag in Hand

  • Full Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,476 posts
  • Joined: 11-November 09
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Northern CA

Posted 10 December 2012 - 10:00 PM

I saw Rodney's truck hauler and race car in person - exceptional!!!

 

Ernie


Ernie Layacan

#89 dc-65x

dc-65x

    Grand Champion Poster

  • Subscriber
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 5,160 posts
  • Joined: 14-February 06
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Captain Rick: The only vintage slot car nut in SW Oregon?

Posted 10 December 2012 - 10:33 PM

Thanks guys, Rodney does a great job for sure!

Rick Thigpen
Check out Steve Okeefe's great web site at its new home here at Slotblog:
The Independent Scratchbuilder
There's much more to come...


#90 Régis4446

Régis4446

    On The Lead Lap

  • Full Member
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 318 posts
  • Joined: 24-March 10
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:France

Posted 11 December 2012 - 04:35 AM

beautiful work of Rodney.


Thank you for the photos.


I like the spirit


Régis Baron

#91 Tex

Tex

    Grand Champion Poster

  • Full Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 8,964 posts
  • Joined: 07-July 06
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Denton, TX

Posted 11 December 2012 - 07:45 AM

Very cool project!


Richard L. Hofer

Remember, two wrongs don't make a right... but three lefts do! Only you're a block over and a block behind.

#92 dc-65x

dc-65x

    Grand Champion Poster

  • Subscriber
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 5,160 posts
  • Joined: 14-February 06
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Captain Rick: The only vintage slot car nut in SW Oregon?

Posted 11 December 2012 - 06:50 PM

Thanks guys :)
 
Okie Dokie, time to build my #4 car. Here's the heart of the beast, a new old stock Pittman DC-65X (6-volt) motor:
 
CarNumber4-004.jpg
 
I first checked the magnet strength of this almost 50 year old beast:
 
CarNumber4-005.jpg
 
A quick ZAP.......
 
CarNumber4-001.jpg
 
....and she's freshened up....
 
CarNumber4-006.jpg
 
....and ready for some oil and for a couple hours of break in :) .
 
For gearing I chose a Weldun 61 tooth 64 pitch crown gear that's a little less than 1" in diameter. The pinion is a modern Sonic 15 tooth job (reamed out to an ID of .0925") for a ratio of 4.067:1. The thunderous power will be held in check by some modern 1/8" ball bearings:
 
CarNumber4-007.jpg
 
For a rear end, I'm using a pair of brackets I designed. They are inspired from Kemtron pieces but the rear axle tube rides in a slot instead of a hole to allow for different wheel diameters. I fabricated the prototype pair and then had a few sets laser cut.
 
CarNumber4-009.jpg
 
The assembled unit on top is set up for 1/4" bearings. The parts below are for the 3/16" oilite bearings Rodney will be running.
 
Time to come up with a 1964 style chassis............


  • endbelldrive and Bruce Wayne like this

Rick Thigpen
Check out Steve Okeefe's great web site at its new home here at Slotblog:
The Independent Scratchbuilder
There's much more to come...


#93 slotbaker

slotbaker

    Dan Gurney Fan

  • Subscriber
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,335 posts
  • Joined: 16-February 06
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Sydney, Australia.

Posted 11 December 2012 - 07:17 PM

:popcorm1:


Steve King


#94 Gary Bluestone

Gary Bluestone

    Race Leader

  • Full Member
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 658 posts
  • Joined: 24-October 08
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Canada

Posted 12 December 2012 - 03:14 PM

What type of gadget is used to measure the magnetism. I'm still using my Monogram meter which is a glorified compass .

#95 dc-65x

dc-65x

    Grand Champion Poster

  • Subscriber
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 5,160 posts
  • Joined: 14-February 06
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Captain Rick: The only vintage slot car nut in SW Oregon?

Posted 12 December 2012 - 04:15 PM

Hi Gary,

 

I'm using this Wright Way Gauss Meter. I really like that I can set the magnet or whole motor on the unit's grid and get consistent measurements. The probe is kind of a pain as every tiny spot on the magnet gives a different reading. But sometimes the probe is all you can use so it's good to have it as an option:

 

GaussMeter-030.jpg


Rick Thigpen
Check out Steve Okeefe's great web site at its new home here at Slotblog:
The Independent Scratchbuilder
There's much more to come...


#96 Gary Bluestone

Gary Bluestone

    Race Leader

  • Full Member
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 658 posts
  • Joined: 24-October 08
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Canada

Posted 13 December 2012 - 03:32 PM

Thanks , that is a cool piece of gear.

#97 Alchemist

Alchemist

    Checkered Flag in Hand

  • Full Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,476 posts
  • Joined: 11-November 09
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Northern CA

Posted 13 December 2012 - 11:28 PM

Hi Rick,

 

You craftsmanship to me, is surgically precise - always exciting to see your work Rick!

 

Happy Holidays to you and the family!  

 

Ernie


Ernie Layacan

#98 dc-65x

dc-65x

    Grand Champion Poster

  • Subscriber
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 5,160 posts
  • Joined: 14-February 06
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Captain Rick: The only vintage slot car nut in SW Oregon?

Posted 15 December 2012 - 06:19 PM

Thanks Ernie and Happy Holidays to you and all my fellow Slotblogers.
 
I made some progress on the chassis. I've waffled more on the design of this chassis than any other in recent memory. I couldn't even decide on the style of drop arm. In looking through the old 1964 magazines I saw both brass tube and brass sheet styles.
 
I couldn't stop waffling between the two so I decided to use both materials. I also made up sheet brass front motor mounts:
 
CarNumber4-024.jpg

Everything bolts together like so:

CarNumber4-026.jpg
 
 CarNumber4-028.jpg
 
Everything is setup in my Rick's R-Geo chassis jig.
 
CarNumber4-029.jpg
 
I think I know the design direction I want to head in so here we go.......


  • endbelldrive, miko and Bruce Wayne like this

Rick Thigpen
Check out Steve Okeefe's great web site at its new home here at Slotblog:
The Independent Scratchbuilder
There's much more to come...


#99 dc-65x

dc-65x

    Grand Champion Poster

  • Subscriber
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 5,160 posts
  • Joined: 14-February 06
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Captain Rick: The only vintage slot car nut in SW Oregon?

Posted 24 December 2012 - 06:36 PM

To finish off the drop arm I modified a Classic guide weight:

 

CarNumber4-030.jpg

 

I cut out a pocket in the bottom so the weight would sit down flush with the bottom of the drop arm. The groove in the top is for a down stop rod to sit in. The sides of the weight will contact the inner frame rails to solidly locate the drop arm, side to side:

 

CarNumber4-032.jpg

 

I decided to go with a "space frame" like we used to build at our Southern California raceway back in the early 1960's:

 

CarNumber4-046.jpg

 

CarNumber4-043.jpg

 

I based the design on a 36D sidewinder chassis shown in the Russkit Booklet "Speed Secrets - Complete Step by Step Instructions". The chassis also shows up in Russkit magazine ads sitting in a Russkit Adjusto Jig:

 

CarNumber4-041.jpg

 

CarNumber4-040.jpg

 

This may not be the best choice if the cars are "hammered" during the race like a modern car. This car has a heavy tall body and this style chassis is not going to help get its CG any lower....but I just love them:

 

CarNumber4-039.jpg

 

If I'm lucky, the mass of the motor will be enough to keep this car from being a "tilting pig". If not I guess I can pile some extra weight on the drop arm :o :)

 

Time to mount that body....finally!


  • endbelldrive, miko, Peter Horvath and 1 other like this

Rick Thigpen
Check out Steve Okeefe's great web site at its new home here at Slotblog:
The Independent Scratchbuilder
There's much more to come...


#100 Tex

Tex

    Grand Champion Poster

  • Full Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 8,964 posts
  • Joined: 07-July 06
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Denton, TX

Posted 25 December 2012 - 10:02 AM

Lookin' at shiny brass on Christmas morn... YIPPEE!


Richard L. Hofer

Remember, two wrongs don't make a right... but three lefts do! Only you're a block over and a block behind.





Electric Dreams Online Shop