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#101 dc-65x

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Posted 08 April 2017 - 10:30 AM

Here's the latest vintage drag racer restoration from Rodney:

 

I got around to restoring the second Brooklyn dragster.  
 
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Magnesium frame rails were shortened to cut off the corroded part of the frame and the frame was lightened mainly for a kooler look.  A big brass weight is in the nose.  An International axle bracket is installed along with Weldon gears.  The usual set screw Russkit wheels and German tires are used.  A long drop arm was made.
 
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This dragster had the RAM armature that powered the proxy event winning "Fred Dragster". A new motor was built a while ago using a Ram 850 6 volt motor.  The motor was lightened.  The armature was epoxied.  The non-brush side end-plate is shinier because a second one was made due to finding a crack in the first one made.  The magnet took quite a charge.  Ball bearings were used throughout.  A Ram stiff spring is used for the brush tension.
 
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Thanks for the Hubley Stinger body Ron.  The chassis has the usual aluminum sheet covering.
 
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Beautiful Rodney! Thanks for sharing. :D

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Posted 08 April 2017 - 01:06 PM

Wow! :heart: :D

Never get tired seeing vintage padlock dragsters and especially Rodney's restorations! Thanks for sharing.

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Posted 10 June 2017 - 10:32 AM

Another cool original '6's dragster restored by Rodney:
 
Pictures of the dragster that ran at J&J and Lee's. This was part of a box of dragsters that was sold on eBay.
 
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The box had dozens of winner ribbons and plaques from J&J and Lee's Raceways (eBay pictures attached).  
 
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The body number 9 is the original body.  
 
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Also attached are pictures of the unrestored car. I noticed the other dragsters posted on the French version of Slotblog.
 
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Years ago, Gary and I ran the dragster and got a couple of crazy ETs of close to 1 second flat. Then the commutator glazed over and times were reduced to 1.3 seconds. I did not have any comm drops.
 
I cleaned up the car and installed a new body. The motor was rebuilt. The motor was originally set up for 36 volts. Crazy spring tension. I had to change the spring to get it to run on normal voltage. I kept the original body.
 
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Note the wheelie bar wheel. The car was not run in our proxy drag race because wheelie bars were not legal for our event.
 
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Thanks for sharing Rodney!

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Posted 10 June 2017 - 11:06 AM

Excellent, thanks, guys! 

 

Didn't think wheelie bars were legal at the time either; at least, never seen one in the period reports. 

 

Don't remember seeing the photos on any French site: was it FOLM, French Slot Forum, or Retro Slot? Those are the three main ones I know of... 

 

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Posted 10 June 2017 - 07:26 PM

Hi Don. From Rodney:

 

More cars shown on  France - SlotForum
 
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I paid around $120, the cheapest mag car.
 
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Posted 11 June 2017 - 03:55 AM

Thanks Rick and Rodney - should've known, our old buddy Fred! Who's built a couple drag strips here in France and even had permanent premises for awhile in Dijon, but lost them. And he was in our club in Paris about 15 years ago... 

 

I was lucky enough to get a period magwinder (with lots of period corrosion!) in the early days of ebay, but since then prices have skyrocketed. 

 

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Posted 11 June 2017 - 09:22 AM

Amazing finds and restorations :D

Rodney certainly has the magwinder :wizard: finding and winning these pieces of history.

Would love to grab one but those prices have definitely sky rocketed :(

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Posted 27 May 2018 - 09:34 AM

Here's the latest drag racer from Rodney in his own words:

 

 
I finished one of the aluminum dragster frames I recently purchased.  The chassis builder says he used T6 alloy for the chassis.  The main chassis is one piece. This chassis has an aluminum drop arm.
 
The wheel-base was extended with some brass rod.  The chassis extension also allowed the front end of the chassis to be dropped.
 
A Pittman 65-6 motor was used in place of a Parma D-can motor the chassis was built for.   No modifications to the frame were needed for the motor transplant.
 
Bevel gears with a 4 to 1 ratio were installed.  Russkit wheels and German tires are used along with ball bearings for the rear axle.
 
A tin motor shroud was constructed to hold the plastic Ford engine and blower.  A Cox driver figure, plastic gear cowling, a brass "gas tank" and some hand lettering complete the detailing.
 
Rodney
 
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Beautiful car! Thanks Rodney :)

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Posted 27 May 2018 - 12:42 PM

Had the exact same idea when these popped up on the auction site! Great job Rodney really looks the part :D
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Posted 16 April 2019 - 10:40 AM

Wow, it's been almost one year since Rodney's last post............but he's got something new and cool to share.

 

Here's his latest project in his own words:

 

Rick, 
 
I purchase a pile of early '60s slot car dragster parts.  There were some tall unfinished dragster frame side plates that looked interesting.  I always wanted to build a dragster that did away with the Ram/Pittman motor end plates (magwinder style).  So here goes.
 
The side plates were cut down and I added holes for the axle bearings, brush spring studs, drop arm pivot, etc.  Weldon gears with a ratio of about 3 to 1 were used.  Rear wheels are Russkit with German tires.  The motor armature is a Ram with fairly thick wire.  Ball bearings are used throughout.  Monogram driver figure was used.  A .010 Aluminum body was added.
 
Rodney
 
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Very cool Rodney. Thanks for sharing!  :)

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Posted 16 April 2019 - 11:00 AM

Very cool indeed, thanks Rodney! 

 

I've got some parts like this, but haven't quite worked up the courage to start actually working on them... one of these days! 

 

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Posted 27 October 2019 - 08:26 PM

Rodney's latest dragster project in his own words:

 

This is the latest magnesium dragster build.  The unfinished magnesium frame rails and motor bits are from ebay.
 
As we know, this type of slot car is period correct for 1965.  The dragster is similar to the Gene Hustings IMPOSSIBLE Dragster featured in the January 1966 issue of Rod & Custom.
 
Bits and pieces form ebay:
 
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Completing the front axle assembly:
 
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Drilled and reamed the rear axle bearing hole for a proper gear mesh:
 
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The finished car:
 
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Details of the build:
I soaked the old corroded and rusty parts in Mobil 1 motor oil.  This really helped with cleaning up the parts.
The drop arm is brass with a lead weight around the guide post.  A Cox guide is used.
The motor is a Ram 857 with the magnet lamination's contoured for higher R.P.M.  The armature is encapsulated with epoxy (very period).
The Weldon gears give a gear ratio of about 3 to1.
The usual Russkit drag race rear wheels and "German tires" are used.
The front wheels are Associated.
Body made from 16 thou. aluminum.  The two piece body clips to chassis.
If I could find some 1/16" magnesium sheet, I could make a gear guard.
 
Amazing build Rodney. Thanks for bringing this wonderful piece of our slot racing history back to life. :good:

 
 

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Posted 27 October 2019 - 08:38 PM

I think I remember seeing that on eBay the front wheels are what I remember seeing.

I look forward to seeing what it runs at the track.

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Posted 27 October 2019 - 09:20 PM

Yep. I had that in my watch list. I just looked it up in my sniper bidder. It sold for $132.50. Ron did a really nice job on it.

 

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Posted 28 October 2019 - 09:23 AM

That looks very much like a Hustings dragster. Especially the way the magnet lams are contoured.



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Posted 02 November 2019 - 12:15 PM

Rodney's latest build is the Lindgerg 4 Banger Dragster:

 

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Here are 2 versions of the Kemtron chassis built especially for this model:

 

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The instruction sheet on how to build the chassis.......

 

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.......and modify the model kit to fit it:

 

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Here's Rodney on his build:

 
Rick,
 
I completed the chassis for the Kemtron/Lindberg 4-Banger dragster.  Most components were polished.
 
The Kemtron X-503 is equipped with a 4 volt Mini-Auto Calif KTM armature (part number 184). and ball bearings.
 
Ulrich stock car rear wheels as you suggested along with German slick tires:

 

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Weldun gears provide a smooth gear mesh.

 

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The instructions call for a tube spacer between the bearings.  I may narrow the rear tires.  Rear track is 2 7/8":

 

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Time to assemble the body. Templates applied.with double sided tape:

 

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Body trimmed for chassis and motor clearance:

 

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Tamiya lacquer paint for the body. Several undercoats were tried to get the color as close to the box art as possible:

 

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A Cox driver figure is a perfect fit:

 

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Beautiful build Rodney.     :wub:    Thanks for sharing!

 

 

 

 


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Posted 02 November 2019 - 01:53 PM

Welcome to the monkey house Rodney! Great minds think alike... 

 

I finally did one of these earlier this year, which I think I've posted here somewhere. 

 

We came up with a lot of the same solutions, incluidng the Cox driver that does fit perfectly, and the Weldun gears. I used a couple pairs of wheels that I was unable to identify, plus some homemade urethanes on the back, since I ran it at the Bordo vintage race. I also didn't want the guide sticking out, so I made a trailing guide - maybe not a good idea, since the car was a bit twitchy when pushed, and a regular guide, and/or a drop arm might have helped on the American Black in Bordo. I also used a KTM 4V, but the whole motor, not just the arm. 

 

I also used a spray can orange, since I didn't think I could really duplicate the cover color, but I'm very happy with the result. 

 

4-Bangers at 4 Paces on the drag strip? 

 

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Posted 02 November 2019 - 02:32 PM

I've seen those kits on eBay. You guys did a great job, but to me the frame on the outside of the body is pretty weird looking.

 

I sure like the Lindburg dragster though.


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Posted 03 November 2019 - 12:26 PM

Rodney was inspired by your beautiful build Don.  :good:

 

Phil, I bet the Lindgerg - Kemtron 4-banger dragster was the original exoskeleton slot car. :crazy:   :dance3: 


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Posted 03 November 2019 - 12:38 PM

Thanks Rick, I'm flattered that I could inspire Rodney! 

 

His builds inspire me too, but I don't think I've got the talent to come up with one of those beautiful Magwinders - still, hope springs eternal in a not so young man's breast, and all that... 

 

I think the exoskeleton slot looks great, and it's unique. 

 

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Posted 03 November 2019 - 12:54 PM

I think the exoskeleton slot looks great, and it's unique. 

I agree.

 

No different than the partial bodies, canopies, and drivers, that are on longer magwinders.


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Posted 04 November 2019 - 10:37 AM

It's certainly unique and I give it kudos for that. But it just doesn't float my boat. Different strokes.

 

I don't really like the bodies on vintage rails either. I like 'em better without it, which how the vast majority of them are. I've got 2 K&B's and 2 Russkit's that were built back in the day. None of them came with a body.


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Posted 04 November 2019 - 11:50 AM

I had that 4-Banger kit as a kid. I liked the early dragster look it had, but I stretched mine out and added the

Allison aircraft engine you could get as a separate kit back then.

 

You have to liken the magwinders to the later wing cars. The comparisons to real cars got lost in the shuffle

to get faster times. The cars I ran in the other drag classes stuck to real car appearance. Some of those have

been posted here.  



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Posted 04 November 2019 - 12:39 PM

Actually... I think the magwinders are very much the equivalent of real rail dragsters, since they're totally performance-driven. Not sure I would have thought that when I was racing as a teen (and liked more "realistic" stuff), but looking at them now they seem to be very business like dragsters, slot style. 

 

I like the more realistic dragsters with their plastic motors too, but must admit that the magwinders are a special thrill... Breaking the 1 second barrier! ... 199.99 mph! ... Bob Cartwright... Gene Hustings... Bob Braverman... 

 

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Posted 04 November 2019 - 03:11 PM

Actually... I think the magwinders are very much the equivalent of real rail dragsters, since they're totally performance-driven.

 

I like realistic slot cars. These days more than ever. But when I raced I didn't give a rat's a$$ about how the car looked. My sole concern was performance. And that's pretty much how it is in 1/1 racing. 

 

So I love the old rails for exactly what they were. A pure attempt to make the fastest race car possible with little to no regard to their 1/1 counterparts.  :good:


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