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#1 IRRA Retro Racing

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Posted 13 February 2015 - 02:32 PM

Until March 1, 2015, the existing body rules in the 2015 IRRA® rulebook will be used: Section E, Body rule 1a, as written in all IRRA® classes.
 
Effective March 1, 2015, at all IRRA® Premier Races and on September 1, 2015, in all regions using the IRRA® rule set, the following body rules will apply:
 
Section E, Rule 1a (all classes but Stock Car): Bodies must meet the following dimensions: .008" minimum thickness on the nose of the body without any tape and .007" minimum thickness on the sides of the body, which may be accomplished using tape that must cover the entire side from wheel well to wheel well (on F1 bodies, from the front axle opening to the rear of the body side).
 
Stock Car section E, Rule 1a: Bodies must meet the following dimensions: .012" minimum thickness on the hood without any tape and .010" minimum thickness on the sides of the body, which may be accomplished using tape that must cover the entire side from wheel well to wheel well.
 
Regions may elect to enforce this change sooner than September 1, 2015.
 
Based on manufacturer input regarding the molding process, the IRRA® BoD believes that this is fair to all involved and still prohibits bodies made from .007" thick plastic stock as well as poorly-molded bodies.
 
The illustrations below indicate the approximate locations where measurements are to be taken.
 
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(posted for the IRRA® BoD by Joe Neumeister)


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Posted 13 February 2015 - 02:40 PM

:) :) :good:


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Posted 13 February 2015 - 02:52 PM

:good: I should have 40+ legal bodies again. :D
 
It's always nice to see the BoD listen to the racers! :)
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Posted 13 February 2015 - 02:56 PM

Maybe not the newer JK Ti22 that measures .0025" on the side. LOL.

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Posted 13 February 2015 - 02:59 PM

LOL. I have two of those, Mike.
 
Anybody know where I can get a good pair of calipers? :laugh2:
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Posted 13 February 2015 - 03:02 PM

Anybody know where I can get a good pair of calipers? :laugh2:


Yup. LMAO.

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Posted 13 February 2015 - 03:03 PM

If they were pulled from .007", I doubt you'll be able to make the hood swell to .008".

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Posted 13 February 2015 - 03:12 PM

Zip Grip!

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Posted 13 February 2015 - 03:13 PM

Be my guest using that, Mill. There won't be any body to measure after that.

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Posted 13 February 2015 - 03:14 PM

All joking aside, I would like to thank the BoD for finding a much better resolution to this issue.

 

You guys take a lot of heat from some of us racers and even if we don't always agree, the time you invest in a non-paying position is much appreciated. Thank you for your dedication!


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Posted 13 February 2015 - 03:22 PM

... the time you invest in a non-paying position is much appreciated.


Kevin, thank you for this comment. Much appreciated.

Just so folks understand how much work goes into the BoD's deliberations behind the scenes, may I point out that in the main thread in our private boardroom where these new body rules were debated and discussed (there were a couple of other threads where the topic was raised), there are 339 posts since Jan 28... with just five guys posting!

The BoD pretty much lives with constant reminders of that old adage: no good deed goes unpunished. LOL!
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Posted 13 February 2015 - 04:26 PM

Unfortunately, Blue Magic will not swell anything... but Zip Grip swells everything... Nothing like a little Blue Magic on 1/32 silicone tires, too...


Can I get it before Valentine's day?... (Zip Grip ) that is... LOL.

Good move, BoD.

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Posted 13 February 2015 - 04:32 PM

Good call!
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Posted 13 February 2015 - 04:48 PM

Awesome :D I didn't give anybody any heat, did I? Really.

 

Much more reasonable; a big thank you goes out to the BoD. I will hug Tony when I see him.


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Posted 13 February 2015 - 04:55 PM

Good work! I can think of one manufacturer that will not have any bodies on the podium in 2015.



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Posted 13 February 2015 - 05:40 PM

It shouldn't eliminate any manufacturer's bodies if they are made from the correct thickness of material to begin with.


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Posted 13 February 2015 - 06:00 PM

How about a link and price of the spirit gage to be used? I would like to have one in my tool box.
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Posted 13 February 2015 - 06:08 PM

iGaging Digital Electronic thickness gauge 0-1"/25mm micrometer caliper. Available at the store named after a jungle in Brazil. I think this is the one used by an unnamed tech inspector whose picture appears on this page.
 
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Posted 13 February 2015 - 06:21 PM

Yup. That's the one we use.

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Posted 13 February 2015 - 06:23 PM

Available from Micro Mark for $30.

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Posted 13 February 2015 - 06:27 PM

Note the ruling says the approximate locations where the measurements will be taken. Tech inspectors will have the right to adjust the location if there is an appearance that the racer has attempted to circumvent the rule by additional decals, paint, or anything else.
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Posted 13 February 2015 - 06:45 PM

What I can't leave eight lane lane stickers piled up?
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Posted 13 February 2015 - 06:55 PM

You wouldn't stoop that low, Bill. LOL!

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Posted 13 February 2015 - 06:59 PM

... tape that must cover the entire side from wheel well to wheel well".
 
So it must go all the way to the top of the body?
 
]Sounds good to me.


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Posted 13 February 2015 - 07:00 PM

To the top of the side.


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