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#2751 Dallas Racer

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Posted 24 November 2016 - 10:06 PM

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Posted 25 November 2016 - 11:10 AM

I got to build one myself. Grant built one and it runs really well. I dread having to gut out the pans.
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Posted 25 November 2016 - 12:10 PM

Let me know what you need and I can cut them on my band saw.


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Posted 25 November 2016 - 12:26 PM

That definitely sucks... lol

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Posted 27 November 2016 - 10:22 AM

Alrighty, I don't have the skills of Tony P or Cap Henry but here is my latest build. Done on a real block, .9GL ,4.0 WB. The pans are 078 while it has a single rail of 062 soldered in the back and a single brass rail of 048 connecting the ends. There are shaker tubes in the back with two pieces of wire as up amd down stops. 062 as the down amd 032 as the up. The up may need to be changed to tighten the car more.It flexes real nice and is my current attempt at a hybrid following a JimF design.

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Posted 27 November 2016 - 04:30 PM

Chris that is going to be very underweight if you are racing to 100 gram rules. I would add 2 more pan rails to each side and move the body mounts to the top of the pan rails. They will be much stronger there soldered to 4 rails. There is no strength where they are now. Any good chassis has to be able to survive a wreck. Hope this helps!


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Posted 27 November 2016 - 09:36 PM

Thanks Mike. I will take that into consideration. I am shooting for the 100 gram minimum and it is just over that at 101.2g. The car is my fastest can am yet. Needs just a little more bite.......

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Posted 01 December 2016 - 09:29 PM

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Posted 02 December 2016 - 12:38 PM

Cap (and others),

 

I enjoy viewing your builds.

 

I see you're using square tubing to hold round wire. Any specific reason (other than "it's all I had lying around" :D )?

 

Also, I'm seeing more builds these days with no rear gear guard. Are you of the opinion that they're not needed?

 

Just curious.

 

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Posted 02 December 2016 - 04:09 PM

That one ^^^^ will be gooood!


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Posted 02 December 2016 - 04:13 PM

I like that the box tubing lays flat, easy to solder and lots of surface area. As long as the motor box is braced well a gear guard isn't necessary. I've never broken a gear from a wall shot or getting hit by another car, only ever from not being braced well enough, i.e. Bending the bracket
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Posted 02 December 2016 - 04:42 PM

For you have to really have a gear guard on a Retro chassis, it would have to be raised up to the height of the axle.

Regardless, as Cap mentioned, it's not needed.

The teeth on a crown gear aren't exposed.


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Posted 13 December 2016 - 10:49 PM

I asked for help on a new 4-1/2" stock car chassis over on the GRRR folder. Finally, after some false starts, I was able to build it. Here it is.

 

I was able to run it at Bill Pinch's raceway tonight. Turns out to be my best road racing stocker! And I want to thank those who responded to my help post on GRRR.

 

Six rails of .047" wire each side. Brass is 032".

 

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Posted 14 December 2016 - 06:12 AM

Looks good Doc.


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Posted 14 December 2016 - 08:39 AM

Nice job, Doc. What does it weigh?


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Posted 14 December 2016 - 09:12 AM

RTR on the track 130.4 grams. No lead weight.


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Posted 15 December 2016 - 05:01 PM

New chassis kit coming soon from HVR/LUY.

 

Retro Stock Car based on the one I built for Jimmy Williams that has its fair share of Podiums. Bob Kalbfus set a track record with it at our store.

 

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Posted 17 December 2016 - 11:36 PM

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Posted 28 December 2016 - 12:56 PM

So what started as adding bearings lead to a total rebuild. .062" main and angled rails with an .055" down the center to stiffen it up. The rails are soldered front and back only with a small spot for the shaker mount. The pans are from the original setup and I kept them to allow to test with the original stock car body. The pans self-set to the lowest point and the spreader bar is to keep them from meeting midrace for a date.

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Posted 28 December 2016 - 01:17 PM

A few things.

On your hinge wire, there wasn't any reason not to run it the full width of the pan, and lessen the chance of the pan getting knocked off in a crash.

Also, you can use a hotter iron.

Your lower temp joints look pretty good, but your bigger temp stuff, where brass is involved, look like they could use a bit more heat.
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Posted 28 December 2016 - 01:26 PM

And maybe more acid flux.
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Posted 28 December 2016 - 03:57 PM

Working on both as we speak. The pans are .062" and are the thickest I use on any car I currently have. I was using a torch to preheat the thicker stuff while also working around some old solder on some parts.

The hinge wire just ended up being short, no rhyme or reason. The pans are also in equal because that is how they were. If this works, I may make new pans with .032" to lighten the car and move stuff around.

Thanks for the input, guys. I always listen to the tips from the best.
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Posted 29 December 2016 - 12:22 AM

Take some time to clean and polish the areas you are going to solder as well.  Lot's more acid flux and heat until you see it "flow"!  The design should work well-- have fuN!


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Posted 29 December 2016 - 08:29 AM

If that is a stock car chassis you need the .062" pans for the weight.


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Posted 30 December 2016 - 06:50 AM

Here is one of the latest going out the door:

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Posted 30 December 2016 - 07:19 AM

Hi Chris,

You said you heated the thick brass with a torch--If you need to do that then your soldering iron either is not robust enough or it is not transferring the heat to the metal properly. Most likely the latter. Seems like you are channeling a Jersey John chassis here--this was his inspiration for that design. I built two of them a few years ago.

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Posted 30 December 2016 - 11:32 AM

Nice Mike---note how CLEAN all the parts are! That is how to start your soldering---everything will stick better and easier with clean parts.  Then very little solder and LOT'S of acid flux!!  Good example of good technique!


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Posted 30 December 2016 - 06:22 PM

Thanks, Tim!! Here is the other side no tumbler used just some metal polish. You can see my ugly face in it.

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Posted 30 December 2016 - 06:36 PM

Hey Mike,

Which tires are those? I always have to chop the nose.
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Posted 30 December 2016 - 06:52 PM

Look like HVR.
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Posted 30 December 2016 - 07:34 PM

Cap is correct – HVR.

But if you look close, JJ, you will see I have the chassis rail inside the axle upright. Very time-consuming rail to get the correct bends while still laying flat!! :)
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Posted 31 December 2016 - 06:37 PM

I asked Jersey John to make a stock car chassis out of the Go Fast GFR-1 chassis.

Below is what he came up with.

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Posted 08 January 2017 - 12:04 PM

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Posted 08 January 2017 - 03:16 PM

Looks good Cap. Is the top rail soldered in the middle of just on the ends?
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Posted 08 January 2017 - 03:21 PM

The top rail is soldered all the way across.
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Posted 10 January 2017 - 07:53 PM

Okay, so I have been watching and listening. More flux, more heat, longer heat to really get the lead to flow. And the end result is an F1 to try and run at HVR at the end of the month. It has two steel .062" rails and one brass .062" and the rails are not soldered full length. I know I need a guide reinforcement but I am waiting on materials for that.😉

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Posted 10 January 2017 - 09:56 PM

Looks good teach.
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Posted 12 January 2017 - 12:50 PM

New Can-Am chassis. JK nose, R-Geo pans and rear pan mounts, Chicagoland bracket and guide brace. 52 grams.

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Posted 12 January 2017 - 03:16 PM

Cap,  Is that for the Blue King?  What size wire?


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Posted 12 January 2017 - 04:01 PM

It's for whatever track it works on LOL Last year I won GTC at R4 with the same layout. 20 rails of .032 and 2 of .039.
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Posted 20 January 2017 - 02:54 PM

Fresh off the jig, 4 .047" floppy pans. Jk nose Jk x25 pans and team pan support, HVR/Luy bracket. Comes with HVR bearing fronts, Barton axle, and rear bearings installed.
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#2792 Cap Henry

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Posted 26 January 2017 - 02:48 PM

New F1 for Joe Hollywood, been able to run these lighter then other cars so built this one with a 1/2" wide center pan instead of 3/4"b6e8a8bd7f9a35bc498bf79a8d0bc7ee.jpg6d860f8af1dd692a1fd790ce11944c2d.jpg


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#2793 Joexemm

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Posted 03 February 2017 - 09:03 PM

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Hey guys it's been a while but this beautiful thing is hot off the iron and going to be raced tomorrow as a can am on the hurricane at race place


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"Success is the best Revenge".... - someone smart.

 

C.O.W. retro chassis Everyone that runs one knows Checkers or Wreckers

 

 


#2794 Eddie Fleming

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Posted 03 February 2017 - 09:19 PM

Looks good 

Beat of luck.


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#2795 Cap Henry

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Posted 05 February 2017 - 09:44 PM

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Pair of new cars to try out
Can Am is 12 rails of .039, 4"WB, Swiss 3/4" bracket, cut down swiss guide brace, JK X25R kit, rebuild of a wrecked car. Weight was 52 grams
F1 is a Rgeo Shark Nose, Samson Style Rails, 4" WB, .95" GL, .060 Pans, Swiss 3/4" Bracket, Swiss 2 degree guide tongue. Weight was 56 grams


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#2796 Josh Crutchfield

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Posted 07 February 2017 - 11:54 PM

Couple F1's heading north. Six rails of .055 and split eight rails of .047. Chicagoland 2 degree guide holders and brackets.
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#2797 Dominator

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Posted 16 February 2017 - 08:00 PM

A couple of new builds.  First up is a FSF kit built up for Can Am for a young gun Liam Millican in NERR. 

 

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.078 main rails

4" WB

1" GL

110 grams race ready

 

Next one up is a Can Am for me. 

 

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Double rails of .062

4" WB

15/16" GL

CR guide tonue

CR 1.360" motor bracket

Brass is all .032 except for the center weight which is .016

57 grams with center weight

Center weight is 5.0 grams

 


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#2798 Dominator

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Posted 16 February 2017 - 08:01 PM

A couple of new builds.  First up is a FSF kit built up for Can Am for a young gun Liam Millican in NERR. 

 

20170216_191839.jpg

.078 main rails

4" WB

1" GL

110 grams race ready

 

Next one up is a Can Am for me. 

 

20170216_114444.jpg

Double rails of .062

4" WB

15/16" GL

CR guide tonue

CR 1.360" motor bracket

Brass is all .032 except for the center weight which is .016

57 grams with center weight

Center weight is 5.0 grams

 


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A motor is only as fast as the chassis it's in.
 
Dominic Luongo
 
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#2799 Cap Henry

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Posted 18 February 2017 - 12:24 PM

Couple new builds
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JK Nose, DS7 pans, Swiss 1" Bracket, 4" WB, Double .063 rails. 56 grams bare.
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R-Geo Razzo, 4" WB, Swiss 1" Bracket, 12 rails .039, .062 "Rear Rails"
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Stock Car for David Stahl to be assembled into a race ready car.


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Posted 19 February 2017 - 09:50 AM

Nice work, Cap.

Some real interesting stuff.

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