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#76 Pablo

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Posted 10 May 2018 - 05:56 PM

Guide lead will be 1/4"

 

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Posted 10 May 2018 - 06:15 PM

Independently rotating fronts to go with short guide lead?

 

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Posted 13 May 2018 - 05:46 PM

Inserts needed trimming from .445 to about .400.

I CA glued them to dummy axles, chucked 'em up to my poor man's lathe, and hit 'em with sandpaper

 

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Rattle can flat black, followed by Testor's enamel Metallic silver brushed on the knockoffs

 

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Posted 13 May 2018 - 09:08 PM



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Posted 14 May 2018 - 07:29 AM

I saw it - Parnelli used the airbrake coming into the pits :)


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Posted 14 May 2018 - 08:19 AM

One of the (many) reasons I had no use for USAC - They successfully turned Indianapolis into Jurassic Park.

 

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Posted 14 May 2018 - 11:14 PM

The black CA glue did not secure the urethane wheels worth a darn.

So I went back to what I know works - Wonder Rubber fronts, coated with clear nail polish.

 

I apologize for all the posts on this car that never came to fruition.

Most of the effort and cash to make nice wheels ended up in the garbage  :o

 

Onward. Wheels are done. The nail polish on the fronts looks weird, but pays dividends in handling.

 

Inserts were a precious gift from Gary Stelter :)

 

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 07:44 AM

Don't apologize for the things that don't work. may save someone else their time and money. :good:


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Posted 15 May 2018 - 08:35 AM

Should you try urethanes again, the local 1/24 hard body club has been using IC2000, a flexible CA glue,  on both roadcourse & drag tires the past three years. Paul Gage recommends using a clear nail polish. That's what most 1/32 racers use when gluing tires on rims.


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Posted 15 May 2018 - 02:51 PM

The black CA glue did not secure the urethane wheels worth a darn.

 

 

I have used the black IC2000 and it works OK but for urethanes the cheapest nastiest CA glue works fine. For "rubber" tires I use the Uhu brand of glue which grabs better and doesnt cause cracks or splits like the cheap brands do.


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Posted 15 May 2018 - 07:38 PM

Warmac 1/32 mirrors are perfect :ok:

 

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 08:42 PM

They do look good


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Posted 16 May 2018 - 06:14 PM

Thanks munter :)

 

PCH hard 3/32 axle in brass tube, with about 1/16" side to side slop :)

 

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Posted 18 May 2018 - 06:05 PM

My good friend Samiam sent me the perfect vintage Dynamic 1/8" hole tongue gizmo for this car

 

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:dance3: :sun_bespectacled: :D


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Posted 19 May 2018 - 02:44 AM

Yep, those are great gizmos - make drop arms a lot easier! 

 

I managed to pick up a pack each of 1/8 and 3/16 awhile ago, and they still pop up on ebay occasionally... 

 

Looking forward to seeing this car take shape, 

 

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Posted 05 June 2018 - 05:29 PM

All jigged up; plans and dimensions are pretty much written in stone at this point:

 

WB 3", GL 1/4", wheel widths 2 1/2" front and rear, 3/32 axles, Speed Ring oilites
Rears JK plastic hubs shod with Wonder Rubber .425" wide X .805" OD
Fronts JK plastic hubs shod with Wonder Rubber and coated with nail polish, .385" wide X .775" OD
Rear clearance .028"; front .022"

Dynamic vintage tongue, 1/8 shaft vintage flag, vintage soft silver braid

Warmack mirrors, Indycals decals mounted inside
PCH axles; front rotates in a tube

Halibrand wheel inserts were gifted by Gary Stelter :sun_bespectacled:

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Posted 05 June 2018 - 05:52 PM

Front row seat on this one Pablo

 

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Posted 05 June 2018 - 08:03 PM

Tongue needs to be elevated about .125 above ground zero, so I I sandwiched two .063 chunks of brass together.

Then used mini-alligator clips to minitorch a nice .127 thick sandwich.

 

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I'll trim it to size in parallelogram as per my rough drawing :)


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Posted 06 June 2018 - 04:30 PM

My .125" thick "Chunky" weighs 10 grams.

Actual final dimensions are 5/8" front, 11/16" rear, 7/8" long

 

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Posted 06 June 2018 - 07:10 PM

1/16 rod is too big to fit into the tongue holes, so I used .047" brass rods.

It's a sloppy fit, which is good because solder flows into it.

 

Bunky, don't even try a solder job like this without a minitorch :wink3:

 

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Now it's rail time...... :dance3:


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Posted 06 June 2018 - 07:13 PM

Nothing like a thick brass sandwich requiring mini torch action! A Pablo build isn't complete without a mini torch :D

Great project & So many ways you can build em.

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Posted 06 June 2018 - 07:36 PM

Thanks Paul :)  Besides taking a finished chassis out of the tumbler in the morning,

this part of a custom build is my favorite moment:

 

All parts are in place, time to connect them. Sounds easy, but it's challenging to get it right.

How much flex do I want?

How much strength do I need?

How do I allow the front wheels to help, not hinder, handling?

How do I make it work in conjunction with the body?

How do I make it look like something a guy built back in the day, and keep it simple?

 

For this little car, I'm thinking:

-not a lot of WB, so whatever flex I make has to be in a very short space between the bracket and chunk

-body is thick and it's not a high powered car, so strength isn't much of an issue

-front axle tube will probably be connected and governed by torsion rails

-body mounting will be 1/16" brass tubing, no movement

 

 


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Posted 07 June 2018 - 05:14 PM

First rails tacked in place. They continue past the chunk and serve as Jairus style flag stops :dance3: :D

 

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Posted 08 June 2018 - 07:14 PM

Added another rail set and I'll stop there - I have what I believe to be a proper amount of strength and flex.

 

Made an experimental torsion front axle rod connector, tacked it in, and felt it.

It clears the body, gives me the "give" I want for the front wheels, so I'll make one for the other side :)

 

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Posted 08 June 2018 - 08:52 PM

.047" brass rod "U" brace for the front axle connection

 

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