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[havlicek]

...I can see you're a man of discerning and refined taste Steve

YO JOHN; Found a boat load of arms, Theres just one big problem, every stack has drill marks being they were all ballanced, But never fear, we will come across some more.. You never know what might walk in the door..

There's still a possibility withg those arms Frank. Sometimes I can use the partrs of the stack that haven't been drilled...and I can very often reclaim the coms. It's worth the effort if they're good quality arms and coms. So don't toss 'em!

-john

[havlicek]

While I have Rita Hayworth photos bookmarked, I figured she may as well look in here again The lovely Ms Hayworth might just gather some attention to the thread


Finished up the 13UO project with a "Tony P" wind (#29 of a secret # of turns). The arm got a Tradeship com with the built-in advance and I polished it down to around .500". Boy this little guy spins like nobody's business. It sounds like a strong FT16D rewind and should have some torque too. I also wound up painting it red since the yellow wasn't getting very hard for some reason. All in all, the 13UO has turned out better than I had hoped it would and I'm really stoked with this motor. The whole thing is "of the period" with the exception of the magnets, but even those are ceramics and it's possible that some enterprising rewinder from back then might have swapped them.



-john

[Horsepower]

Qoute:"Finished up the 13UO project with a "Tony P" wind (#29 of a secret # of turns)." Unquote
That means you forgot, right? This thing is really nice. I (again) always wanted to build up a 13D motor but outside of the armature, really didn't have any idea how to go about it. Another work of Art, er I mean John!
Oh yeah, nice to show the guys it CAN be done!

[Slotgeezer]

Great-looking motor, John...
Well done !!


Jeff Easterly

[don.siegel]

Excellent John! Looking forward to seeing what this will do in a car.

Interesting, your obsession with Rita. I've always been a big Fred Astaire fan, and he said that she was one of his best dance partners (they did two movies together). He was also friends with her father, a well known Latin American band leader.

Don

[havlicek]

Qoute:"Finished up the 13UO project with a "Tony P" wind (#29 of a secret # of turns)." Unquote
That means you forgot, right?

Nah Gary, I've got this one etched into my rapidly softening brain. I had done a Russkit 23 for Tony a while ago (actually, I wasn't quite ready for primetime then ) and he's the one who gave the wind to me. So in the spirit of the "secret 60's" and for fun, I like to keep some things to myself. However, I have openly said what the wind is here before, so it isn't too much of a secret

This thing is really nice. I (again) always wanted to build up a 13D motor but outside of the armature, really didn't have any idea how to go about it. Another work of Art, er I mean John!
Oh yeah, nice to show the guys it CAN be done!

Thanks Gary, really it all comes down to two things with the littlest Mabuchi...magnets and endbell. It would be easy to refit a modern endbell, but I don't see the point in this case because you'd really only be using the can at that point. On the magnets, I don't know what these are since they came from a box of assorted "stuff" I have, but they are ceramics and not neos or some other more even more exotic material, so at least they are "in the ballpark". If I get to do another "13", I would install the brush tubes a bit lower in the endbell, since these are very close to the top of the arm. Anyway, once past the magnets and endbell, the rest is no different than any other Mabuchi rewind/rebuild. This little guy would easily fit in the narrowest F1 car, even 1/32 and should be a great performer once the gear ratio and chassis are both dialed-in.

Great-looking motor, John...
Well done !!

Howdy jeff and thanks! It's always good to get the stamp of approval from my west coast buddy!

Excellent John! Looking forward to seeing what this will do in a car.

I'm very glad you like it Don. It should be a pretty surprising motor especially compared to stock If I do another one for you, I will make some more minor changes, but this one seems pretty danged nice! The two things about it that aorry me are that the brush hardware is (of course) secured with only one screw. Even though the hoods are soldered to the brush tubes, they could move with a solid wall shot. Also, the magnets are only held in by epoxy and I don't like doing that, but the can here is pretty small and that's just the way things worked out. I spent some time trying to use either two magnet clips or one and the existing can tabs, but couldn't quite get the magnets trimmed properly. I've got the magnets solidly epoxied in with JB Weld thgough, so I'm pretty sure they aren't going anywhere

Interesting, your obsession with Rita.

...being a guy, I don't really see as I have a choice in the matter! I've also gotten requests in PMs here to keep including Ms Hayworth photos in this thread. While the "vintage" isn't exactly correct, it seems sort of appropriate to have "classic" beauty like hers here. I mean Pam Anderson just wouldn't make it (although Ann Margaret or Elizabeth Taylor would be A-OK by me).

I've always been a big Fred Astaire fan, and he said that she was one of his best dance partners (they did two movies together).

I'm a fan of Mr Astaire also, and my daughter who is a dancer is a HUGE fan of his, so we watch the old movies together sometimes...great stuff and to this day nobody does it better!

He was also friends with her father, a well known Latin American band leader.

I believe both her father and grandfather were internationally known dancers and dance instructors. When her family moved to Hollywood, her father opened a studio and (I think) taught many of the biggest stars how to dance. Either her father or grandfather made one or more of the latin dances popular or first brought it to this country or something like that. The story I remember was that Rita hated dancing, probably because her father pushed her so hard from an early age to work at dancing. That's a sure way to get a kid to not like something!


-john

[don.siegel]

I like the idea of Rita being our patron saint for vintage rewound motors!

If you and your daughter are dancers/dance fans, try checking out the Nicolas Brothers, on youtube or in old movies - just as impressive as Astaire, but in a different style. And there's even a slot connection, since Harold Nicolas came to work in Paris after his brother could no longer dance in the 60s, and appeared in an ad for ... Circuit 24, the iconic French slot car system!

Don

[havlicek]

Oh yeah Don...the Nicolas Brothers are excellent too! Recently, I found some footage of a woman who was famous for her acrobatic dance style on YouTube that I had never heard of named Miriam Lavelle. Not much on her out there because she apparently died young...but yikes! Not to go too OT, but check out Ms Lavelle! (and she's doing this stuff in high heels)

-john

PS...only my daughter is a dancer. The only time I ever danced was at my wedding, and even then I was DUI (dancing under the influence!)

[dc-65x]

Hi John,

I just got the surprise package you sent. WOW! What a beauty. My unfinished “Super 26D” setup has been just sitting on my bench like this arm was sitting on yours. This is what the project needed, the armature to build the setup around. Thanks for taking the “bull by the horns” and winding my “Super 26D”.

Rick

[havlicek]

Hi Rick,

Glad you like it, it's not quite as warm as you had first asked for, but for a 26D it should be pretty smokin'. Truthfully, I forget exactly where we left off with that project, but it was making me crazy looking at the thing. If anyone can whip up a setup where that arm can live a decent life in a 26D Mabuchi, I feel confident it's you You definitely have your work cut out for you

-john

[Victor Poulin]

Hey, you guys remember John doing up that Hawk arm for me??
Well, I sent the motor out for some testing and just got the results back. It was tested on a 155 hill climb. Not sure what there running for power, but will find out. In short, it screamed !! They said it ran like a Gp-12 !! They put around 30 laps on it and said it was getting faster as it went. They said it ran a little hot, but not to the point that it caused a problem.They couldnt get over how fast it was. BTW- It was tested in a C-11 chassis. So this shows that with the right work, this motor could be the one to beat. Now I just hope I get my motor back


Vic

[havlicek]

Hi Vic,

Thanks for that! Most of the time I send motors or arms out and never hear about them again. I'm not surprised the motor was getting faster since break-in is important with these things. It seems the Hawk is a viable and very affordable platform for modern-day winders. I don't know how it will perform out of the box, but there is a lot of potential in that little package. Thanks again

-john

[Alchemist]

Hi Vic!

Wow - that is exciting to hear - though I expected it to run that well!!!! Always great work John!!!!!

I've also gotten requests in PMs here to keep including Ms Hayworth photos in this thread.

Yes pleeeeeease!!! A beautiful woman goes well with a beautiful motor - now that's KOOL!

Ernie

[BoomerDog]

Let's not forget Lana Turner.....they just don't make 'em like they used to!

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[Bill from NH]

Is Jayne Mansfield next?

[BoomerDog]

file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/Stephen%20Vogt/My%20Documents/My%20Pictures/lana-turner-8bf.jpgOr this one.......

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[Alchemist]

Now Lana is another fine looking lady!!!!

Gina Lollobrigida is my favorite!

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[Victor Poulin]

Beats the heck out of any arm i've seen john wind yet !!!

[HarV Wallbanger III]

Bill: "Is Jayne Mansfield next?"

Here guys... this will bring ya back to reality! :
ps: Gina was my fav. as well! Classy! And I'm old enough to remember!

Cool 13 motor John and Tony! I have a couple of these huuuum....

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[Victor Poulin]

Bill: "Is Jayne Mansfield next?"

Here guys... this will bring ya back to reality! :
ps: Gina was my fav. as well! Classy! And I'm old enough to remember!

Cool 13 motor!

Ok, Now that makes Johns builds look much better !!!

[Bill from NH]

That could be my grandma. She's been dead 30 years.

[Champion 507]

Never could read very well. I always enjoyed looking at the pictures though...except for waytoomany granny...eeeeww

John, hurry up and build or wind something. You might be losing control of the thread.

[Robert V.]

As much as i love seeing these amazing ladies from long ago i to believe it's time to get back on track, so here we go with my latest it's a 26D rewind 65 turns 28 gauge i used John's furnace cement idea on the stacks rewound tied than sealed it up with epoxy cleaned and coated the stacks, runs good low amp draw and has decent power oh yes new brushes, spring cut the comm and of coarse a fresh coat of paint.

[BoomerDog]

You know what, Robert, you're absolutely right! I have a question for you, though.....how the heck did you get 65 turns of #28 on that arm?

[Robert V.]

With a great deal of care, just kidding i start my winding pattern closest to to the comm making shore i don't over lap until i get a full layer across the stack and than i continue on back in the other direction also making shore i don't overlap the second layer only the first, i think if you use a nice tight pattern you can get a decent amount of wire on the stacks and the arm should have better balance, i hope this make sense.