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#26 Mark Onofri

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Posted 31 August 2021 - 07:31 PM

I was running 7/8 on the outside 13/16 on the inside and bending the chassis up in the rear just passed the motor. With a 1/16 inch strip of lead along the left hand side rail, the thing was unbeatable. When I showed up with a out-of-sight Daytona body they bard that body on sight. So I went back to a Daytona Challenger Champion body I still handle them there ***s.




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Posted 31 August 2021 - 08:01 PM

The old Speed Star webpage has them as Ferret chassis. Maybe Ferret produced them & also sold them to other companies, such as Racer Products, like they did with some of their brass/wire chassis. Freddie, wasn't Racer Products a CA company? Ferret & Speed Star Distributing were first in NY, then moved to FL.


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Posted 31 August 2021 - 08:01 PM

As fate would have it, now that I figured out how to send pictures, unlimited internet access does not mean Unlimited. So that will have to wait.

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Posted 31 August 2021 - 08:05 PM

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Posted 01 September 2021 - 06:13 AM

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Posted 01 September 2021 - 01:47 PM

Thanks Isaac. The website I had posted is the distributor of ferret products.

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Posted 01 September 2021 - 03:53 PM

Hopefully,Here's a few more stamped tinfoil,Ummmm steel chassis. It's race night, les posting, more racing.

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Posted 03 September 2021 - 10:16 PM

Shortly my unlimited internet will be back to somewhat Unlimited. Either I sent the photos to Siberia or Isaac was busy.

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Posted 05 September 2021 - 10:59 AM

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Posted 05 September 2021 - 03:01 PM

Mark, need some setup tips for a Scorp:?  They're not mine but from a friend who is a much better driver than myself. This was a popular flexi chassis back about 2005.

 

"Aside from making sure that the center section and pans are flat independent of each other, when you put the two together for the first time you may have to add a guide spacer in addition to the large spacer that they give you to place between the two peices. Also make sure that the tongue of the center section is parallel with the pans as this will inadvertently "tweak" the chassis without you knowing it.

Once you have the spacing correct, you will want to grind down the screw head slightly so it does not hang below chassis.

When you put the chassis together with the screw and nut, tighten till you have a little more twist than you would with a champion. At this time you can check the chassis to make sure everything is still sitting flat. You may find that one side may lift up slightly so check to make sure the screw head isn't hanging down. Once the rest of the car is together play with tightening and lossening the screw to adjust the handling to you liking.

I also put a small amount of weight on each side of the guide tongue.

Speaking of the guide tongue, this is very crucial as the scorpions are very hard to straighten. You have to play close attention to see which way it is twisted and adjust accordingly. this is a little tricky, but you'll get it. You should use a cut down guide with no spacers for the Trigilio, on the Engleman i use one .005 spacer with a cut down. This does vary with the chassis so use it as a starting point since as i said these tongues and tricky.
 

As for side to side play in the rear I leave a little less than a 1/16" and solder the wire to the pan.O


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Posted 05 September 2021 - 06:45 PM

Those directions sound familiar Bill lol.

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Posted 06 September 2021 - 08:58 AM

Hey Bill, never raced the Scorpion III. How is it as a road course car? I kind of don't quite have this posting photos down yet. I wanted to send the Scorpion II First. I've been trying to post that one but it says the file is too large. Your advice on the setup is pretty close to what I did for the oval at the first Speedy's fast lane. It was pretty much a 8 Lane fish bowl. If you stopped on the bank you were at a right angle to your lane.

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Posted 06 September 2021 - 09:44 AM

Mark, someone has deleted my post from earlier today. Thanks for nothing! When I ran my friend's  Scorp 2 in CASRA, it was on a road course, the then local 185' Oglivie Engleman, with a Parma Porsche sports car body & a Proslot X-12 arm in a Koford setup. You can do enough tuning to get them to run well on most tracks. I just never saw either the 4" Scorp or the 4.5" Scorp run well with a NASCAR body on either a road course or a tri-oval. Scorps were a popular chassis in the early 2000s in the ANE-Amca B-production class that used sports car bodies & C-cans with Super Wasp & Contender/Contender arms.

 

Dom in post #36 is my friend who gave me the Scorp set-up tips in my post #35, back in 2006. Dom is an excellent slot car driver, one who I beat only if he broke. He did not break very often.


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Posted 06 September 2021 - 10:18 AM

Bill I don't know the location of Ferret or Racer Products.  I did most all my racing in the Mid Atlantic series and purchased from different raceways.  I still have the chassis I raced in the early 90s, some bodies to. My GP12 bodies were usually the O/S Corvette or the Camen Corvette which I also raced in INT15.


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Posted 06 September 2021 - 10:33 AM

Fast Freddie , if you go back 10 posts that's the website I found that sells ferrets( with or without stink gland)😅
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Posted 06 September 2021 - 11:08 AM

Not a stock car body, a Champion 34 Ford ! I did real well with that car. Consistently second and third out of 10-12 people every week! Evidently I got to figure out how to compress my photos cuz they have too many megabytes or gigabytes whatever the hell they are, anyways they're getting bit up pretty bad.

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Posted 06 September 2021 - 12:18 PM

We didn't run many vintage looking bodies for some reason in the 90s. Since we had NASCAR at NHIS less than 30 miles away, the popular class was usually a stockcar body & 16D motors. Once in awhile, we ran sports cars with S16D arms. It wasn't until some racing series were created, that the local track spread out into some of the other classes. At the 1st anniversary race in '97, everybody ran the Parma  '34 Ford panel truck as the spec body with Plafit Cheetah motors. The bodies were .015 thick & didn't handle all that well. I came in 2nd in that race & still have that body packed away. Parma also had a 34 Ford coupe body, but I never had any of those.

 

Put a question out asking for help compressing your photos. I'm not very digital photographic literate, but I think you need fewer megapixels. Someone with a cell phone on here will know how to resize photos for Slotblog use. You might even need to get a special app, but I'm not sure of that.


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Posted 06 September 2021 - 02:48 PM

Rmjlmartin, I got a little off track here. You're looking for a timeline. I found some of my old paperwork and I can tell you with the utmost uncertainty that the Mossetti. Titan came out somewhere near the beginning of September,2003. I can tell you this from the race results. I started that year with a flexi-2 and then two weeks before I switch to a Titan I was running a turbo Flex. My standings rapidly improved.

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Posted 06 September 2021 - 03:10 PM

Mark, what sort of track layouts were you running on back in 2003? I ask, because I recall when the Titans came out & locally, they couldn't displace the Turbo Flex. Do you recall if you ran the Titan with steel pans or did you use one of the colored anodized aluminum pans? From what I've read & heard, Mossetti's current chassis are the cream of the flexi crop.


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Posted 06 September 2021 - 04:39 PM

Started with the steel . Only problem then & now was (is)the stupid pin retailers in the bite bar. The track was, try not to laugh to hard, a 6 lane home made track my friends Mark & Mark bought in Ohio. From what they tell me, the guy had it set up so it folded against the garage wall. It gets weirder. It was an unlimited flexi wing class. Talk about a contradiction in terms. Any motor, anybody, any stamp seal chassis. It was fun.

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Posted 06 September 2021 - 04:45 PM

I did set up another chassis with the aluminum pans(blue)but, by that time m c m Raceway, and Speedy's fast lane we're defunct. I did run it with a JK Ferrari 550 body but not in battle. That was my favorite chassis until the Patriot. I've got that Patriots set up solo good it seems like it has auto pilot!

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Posted 06 September 2021 - 04:48 PM

I went from 6.9 inconsistent lap times to 5.3 consistent , or better on Speedy's blue king !

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Posted 06 September 2021 - 04:53 PM

And it only took maby 20 minutes to straighten & debur. Compared what seems like an eternity( over2 days, a hour a day) to straighten that JK POS.

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Posted 06 September 2021 - 10:07 PM

I never owned a Titan, but I seemed to deburr every flexi I got my hands on, be it Parma, JK, Slotworks, or something else. The original Slotworks (Trinity) Spyders were the worst chassis for me to straighten. Then they would rust while you straightened them, I like your unlimited wing flexi class. The Mid-Atlantic area used to race a flexi wing class but limited the motors to C-cans with Super Wasp arms. Here in New England, the USRA series tried a wing flexi class for new racers using C-cans with a box 12 arm. That should have been a good class, but participation was weak. It died a quick death in about a year & a half.  Do you have any idea where the Syracuse king track came from? Was it from another raceway that closed? I saw a photo of it somewhere a coupe days ago, maybe on Facebook. Do you use Facebook?


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Posted 08 September 2021 - 06:18 AM

Rmjlmartin, I got a little off track here. You're looking for a timeline. I found some of my old paperwork and I can tell you with the utmost uncertainty that the Mossetti. Titan came out somewhere near the beginning of September,2003. I can tell you this from the race results. I started that year with a flexi-2 and then two weeks before I switch to a Titan I was running a turbo Flex. My standings rapidly improved.

No worries Mark, I've been enjoying watching this branch out a bit.


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