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[Eddie Fleming]

A rule without enforcement is only a suggestion.

 

The slide will continue.

 

I hope I am wrong. 

[Richie]

Are we talking ablout measuring the roof etc as the new ruleset? Or did I miss more on this topic lol.

Richie

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It's definitely easy to order thin stockcar bodies.

With the new rule update racers don't have to worry about keeping up with the Jonses anymore.

[Jay Guard]

Eddie / Richie / et al:

At least as far as Gator Region and I'm pretty sure Retro East is concerned the stockcar bodies will be measured on the roof, hood, sides, and 10 gram minimum weight.

I can't speak for the other regions but if they are running to the IRRA rules as of March 1st that is the requirement.

 

Please be aware some manufacturers insist on making bodies in a thinner material but it is up to the racer to ensure that the body they bring to tech is within the new specification

[Clyde Romero]

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It's definitely easy to order thin stockcar bodies.

With the new rule update racers don't have to worry about keeping up with the Jonses anymore.

 

Crystal Meth is available at almost every city in America, doesn't mean you have to buy it! 

[Danny Zona]

Crystal Meth is available at almost every city in America, doesn't mean you have to buy it!

Very true.

I just wasn't sure what thin bodies you were referring to.
You didn't want to go there.

No worries.

The updated body rule won't allow them.

[Noose]

FWI Ralph is aware his .007 retro bodies nor his .010 stock car bodies ARE NOT IRRA APPROVED.  It was a copy and paste error on his website which will be corrected.

[Clyde Romero]

I was invited to see this guys home track (88feet) 

and let me tell you it was fantastic

they race those 1/32 and 1/24 scale Carrera cars all digital

you can pass on the track in 4 places and during a RACE YOU HAVE TO PIT AND REFUEL !

THE TIMING IS RIGHT OUT OF F-1 WITH SECTOR TIMES !

I have never seen anything like this you can see where you are not going as fast as you should be just like F-1!

the big screen on the wall displays everything you need fuel lap time sector times all under your name!

it make Lapmaster look like windows 98!

you don't have to ask me if I am going to buy a car because I already have!

look for a race report soon 

 

[Bill from NH]

Clyde, does your raceway have space to put a Carrera digital in? But perhaps you don't need another class.

[Dave Crevie]

That track in post #332 is how great clubs get started. Home set tracks can be a stairstep to commercial racing. I got back into slot racing through a club, which got it's start on this home track;

 

 

 

 

 

We added members, who also had tracks, and soon set up a round-robin schedule racing on the different tracks. Some tracks we raced 1/24th scale, but most were 1/32nd scale plastic. We even had a commercial grade, Girding built four lane, that we raced retro-style cars and flexis on.

 

 

 

 

Let's face it. Slot racing is fun no matter how you do it.

[Clyde Romero]

What a day of racing and comradery.

New friends were made and old friends came back!

a throw back to the  60's

look for the full report on our track forum

fun was had by all

 

 

 

 

Even Greg Wells showed up!

[Courtney S]

If it would have been posted that Cheater would be in attendance the Raceway would have been packed , you could have sold tickets!
Thats a great picture.

[MG Brown]

It was not assured that Greg would be able to attend, but it certainly was appreciated.

[Clyde Romero]

Well, if you've been following it on Slot Car Race Talk there is this guy from Argentina selling a tool to open sealed motors, and make it untraceable, or so it seems. 

There is enough controversy in this hobby without introducing this tool of this magnitude into the fray.

I have never met Ron Hershman and it's his forum.

But you have to wonder what the goal is for allowing this type of advertising to be on a Facebook page that has such a wide following in a hobby we all love. 

Granted this is America, free speech and ideas, I get that ok.

But this guy selling this tool, in my opinion is undermining the very thing we all (I Hope) are trying to prevent!  

Cheating!

Did I get that right guy? Or did I miss something here?

 

 

 

[John Luongo]

some racers will attempt anything for an edge. some ideas work, most do not. a spec sealed motor class helps to level the playing field and make racing more competitive, short of running a hand out motor. however, some time ago while racing falcon powered sprints plus on a tri-oval, one guy claimed to have a tool/technique to take apart, tweek and reassemble falcon motors. i never saw convincing marks on his endbell or can but, while on red lane, he constantly was able to pull away from me on yellow lane both with added acceleration and top speed while running the same gear ratio. i told him, "i know your cheating, because i am and i cant beat you, even on a faster lane".

[Eddie Fleming]

I don't do FB so that is news to me. 

 

Yea that stinks, but I am having trouble believing it is not detectable. Even having to look for it is ridiculous. 

[Eddie Fleming]

At times it seems like some people are trying to kill the hobby.

 

I am not sure if it is ignorance or stupidity?

[MSwiss]

]Well, if you've been following it on Slot Car Race Talk there is this guy from Argentina selling a tool to open sealed motors, and make it untraceable, or so it seems. 

There is enough controversy in this hobby without introducing this tool of this magnitude into the fray.

I have never met Ron Hershman and it's his forum.

But you have to wonder what the goal is for allowing this type of advertising to be on a Facebook page that has such a wide following in a hobby we all love. 

Granted this is America, free speech and ideas, I get that ok.

But this guy selling this tool, in my opinion is undermining the very thing we all (I Hope) are trying to prevent!  

Cheating!

Did I get that right guy? Or did I miss something here?

 

 

 

No Clyde, you got it right.

 

Some people thrive on controversy with slot racing.

 

I don't do FB so that is news to me. 

 

Yea that stinks, but I am having trouble believing it is not detectable. Even having to look for it is ridiculous. 

I'm not on Slot Car Race Talk but he posts regularly on another FB page despite the guy whose page it is, has said he's conflicted on allowing it.

 

Here's how a typical exchange goes when someone expresses their dismay at what he's doing.

 

He's got a whole schtick on how horsepower wins races and the guys with fast motors are most likely cheating and he's providing some sort of useful service to keep up with them.

 

 

[Danny Zona]

Ron's post on Facebook.

[MSwiss]

Danny, thanks for reminding me why I think the Block feature on Facebook is one thing they got right.

 

In the last 3 years, have you ever felt you raced against a cheated up motor in a Retro race?

 

If the answer is yes, do you feel the cheating is as  widespread as the post seems to indicate it is?

[Clyde Romero]

Ron I  know this will get to you some how, I read what you wrote via Zona, thanks Danny for doing that.

No Harm no Foul Ron your reputation preceded you. 

Well I guess I hit nerve, anyway for me slot car racing is a throwback hobby, nothing more nothing less.

I was fortunate enough to live in NYC in the 60’s and race against Howie at Cobra raceway and Polks and other tracks around the city.

It was more serious back then, hand winding motors etc. 

And I am fortunate enough to own a commercial slot car track and have some great customers who race there.

Personally I like the sealed motors and I like the hand out classes as well. For all the reasons you stated Ron. 

With regards to cheating, have at it. Winning a race knowing you’ve cheated means you know you cheated!

A shallow win. With regards to buying a 100 motors, my pockets are as deep as they come, ask around what kind of car I drive to the races.

Thats not me. I got to races to meet different people who have the same love of this narrow hobby called slot car racing.

And that’s it. 
All the best, hope to meet you one day.

Stay healthy and safe.

 

Clyde Romero 

[Danny Zona]

Danny, thanks for reminding me why I think the Block feature on Facebook is one thing they got right.
 
In the last 3 years, have you ever felt you raced against a cheated up motor in a Retro race?
 
If the answer is yes, do you feel the cheating is as  widespread as the post seems to indicate it is?

I'm also a fan of the block option. Lol

I haven't felt I've raced against a cheated up motor.

I am happy I'm not dealing with the 2-speed shifter motor era anymore. 😉

[jimht]

The real problem with cheating or even the appearance of cheating is that it creates an environment that drives away customers.

 

Allowing it or the promotion of it is not good for business.

[MSwiss]

I haven't felt I've raced against a cheated up motor.

When I asked you that question, I honestly didn't know what your answer would be.

 

I might be wrong, but I have a feeling an extensive rebuttal may follow on SCRT.

 

Maybe not.
 

[MSwiss]

The real problem with cheating or even the appearance of cheating is that it creates an environment that drives away customers.

 

Allowing it or the promotion of it is not good for business.

I agree, 100%.

 

Even though they may be said in jest, I find the comments "if you ain't cheatin", you ain't trying" and "it's only cheating if you get caught", unnecessary. 

[Clyde Romero]

The real problem with cheating or even the appearance of cheating is that it creates an environment that drives away customers.

 

Allowing it or the promotion of it is not good for business.

You nailed it Boss! Couldn’t have said it better

 

clyde