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Posted 01 March 2012 - 09:55 AM

Sorry Rick for jumping on your thread.
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No problem Steve. I'm glad it's helping out.

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Posted 03 March 2012 - 02:55 AM

Rick, do you have some updated photos showing the completed car?
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Posted 04 March 2012 - 11:12 AM

Well, so far, I haven't been able to talk Jairus into painting it :) .

Maybe he will when I become a fellow "Oregonian" in a couple of months :dance3: .

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Posted 04 March 2012 - 01:33 PM

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Posted 04 March 2012 - 07:16 PM

Thanks Doc.
The red sure don't look metalic, and looks a bit tomartoe/tomaytoe.
Maybe Guards red.

The inteior is a bit more detailed than I thought. Cool.
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Posted 04 March 2012 - 07:28 PM

The red is metallic like on the full-size car, the picture is crummy.

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Posted 04 March 2012 - 07:50 PM

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I was hoping it was.
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Posted 04 March 2012 - 08:41 PM

There was a commercial where Gurney gets out of the car, sucks down half a --Pepsi?--and says, "I drove the last half of the race without a clutch." That became every 16-year-old's standard "Date Night" assessment for the rest of that year.

Great thread, Rikky, even that mucking great aluminum heatsink you soldered the chassis on.

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Posted 04 March 2012 - 08:53 PM

Thanks Duffy. That hunk of aluminum is all the starving apprentice had at the time :laugh2: . It wasn't too bad to work with though as most of the soldering was done up off the the thing.

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Posted 04 March 2012 - 09:18 PM

--And you know I joke, right? When the real contact is mostly atmospheric at best, and mnimally-tangential in the rods--unless you're using The Flame Gloves from the Soldering Tips thread, in which case--All Is Lost.

I love this car.
I was getting ready to paint a GTC body tonight, and to add all the "sponsors" to it; so I did some measuring of an FK can and a little math, and I get to put ".731 CI" on the fenders. Howzat set? Pretty cunning, huh?

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Posted 20 March 2012 - 09:52 AM

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Posted 20 March 2012 - 12:15 PM

I hope to post what you need here tonight Clyde.

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Posted 20 March 2012 - 05:40 PM

I've had several requests for Gurney stocker front wheels.

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I made a few extra pair years ago but they are long gone. I remember trying to make mine an exact copy of the originals. Since I don't have any originals to compare them with today, I can't be certain. On the extra wheels I made, I ground a groove in the tire mounting surface of the wheel to identify them as repops.

Anywho, here's a "measured drawing" of the wheels I made in case anyone feels the need to make their own:

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Of course you should size the axle hole to fit whatever your 1/8" axle measures out to be.

To cut the .125" inner radius I used a 1/4" diameter 2-flute ball end mill set up as a lathe tool. There's a lot of tool contact area and it will chatter on you if you run it too fast.

Onward....

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Posted 10 May 2014 - 08:41 PM

Wow Rick!! Just come across this thread and amazing build!!! Holy smokes I love the jigs you created to put the chassis together.... truly remarkable tools and outcome :D :heart:

 

Do you still have the jigs?



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Posted 11 May 2014 - 10:25 AM

Thanks Paul. Yup, I still have them.


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Posted 11 May 2014 - 11:22 AM

Rick, if you want to make some Galaxie front wheels for other people, I have the original tooling for the screw machine, and I can loan it to you. It can easily be used in a standard lathe. It cuts and drills the front face and trims the back once that operation is done.
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Posted 11 May 2014 - 11:34 AM

Hi Philippe,
 
Boy, that's the way to make them alright. But, that form tool would twist my little Sherline hobby lathe into a pretzel. :laugh2: Since I retired, I don't have access to the "hobby shop" with a real lathe my employer used to provide.
 
Thank you though. :victory:
 
I've been asked if I will be making more of these chassis? No, they are simply too much work and I'm not working anymore.....I'm retired. :laugh2:
 

Holy Smokes! No, I'm not making any more of these. There is lots of hand and machine work involved . . . and I'm a lot older now wink.gif (and hopefully wiser!). The only easy and really fun part was soldering up everything in the jig. That jig worked really well.

Slitting a piece of 1/8" tube down the middle, flattening the pieces, and wrapping them around a 7/32" tube to form the drop arm is something to look back on with satisfaction and hopefully never to repeat laugh.gif . But I wouldn't trade this chassis for a dozen Cox chassis. smile.gif .


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Posted 11 May 2014 - 04:18 PM

Yes, the little Sherline would probably not like those tools too much... they are even too beefy from my larger EMCO lathe!

I thought that you still had access to a "big un"! 
 



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Posted 24 May 2014 - 04:06 PM

I know someone with an empty screw machine. How many thousands do you want?


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Posted 29 May 2014 - 05:06 AM

Great work! I really love this blog. I have read this thread probably a dozen times and an inspired every time! Now I am halfway into a Gurney stocker myself and have run out of parts! Desperately need an interiror and one Ulrich steelie.

 

Can anyone help me?

 

Rick, the guy who sold you your resin interior on ebay seems to have stopped suddenly. Between my buying one from him in April and he actually shipping it ;-)

 

An original body kit would be cool too, but from experience, I have serious problems opening packages that have survived sealed 50 years!

 

HELP!


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Posted 30 May 2014 - 10:08 AM

Hi Markus,

 

Sorry about your trouble with the eBay seller.

 

As for the body, I'm using the AMT 3 in 1 1966 Galaxie kit, the one with the green car on the box. There are several on eBay now. It has a racing instrument panel for the dashboard, roll cage, NASCAR style headlight and taillight covers.

 

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Posted 30 May 2014 - 11:06 AM

Hi Rick,

thanks for the reply. Just sent you a message through ebay too...

 

Yes I have an AMT 66 Galaxie body, plus a promo body. I will build  one of these next but right now I am building it as a 65 Gurney Galaxie using an original AMT 65 kit that a previous owner started building.

 

Biggest problem remains that at the moment I have no interior pan. You wouldn't happen to have one would you? A single Ulrich stocker rim that you could part with?

 

And what do you think about painting the Ulrich wheels? Are they really chromed or just aluminum, I can't tell. If it's aluminum, a little black paint is nothing a bit of brake fluid wouldn't remove if I change my mind ;-)

 

thanks again!

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Posted 30 May 2014 - 04:08 PM

Hi Marcus,

 

 

Biggest problem remains that at the moment I have no interior pan. You wouldn't happen to have one would you?

 

Long ago in a Galaxy far away, I was visiting PdL at Electric Dreams. He gave me the resin repop Gurney interior pan "second" pictured below :

 

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The only problem with it is the missing front attaching boss. A while back I acquired one of the complete resin reproduction interiors. Since the above piece was given to me to help with my project I would be happy to give it to you if it would help your project.

 

 

And what do you think about painting the Ulrich wheels? Are they really chromed or just aluminum, I can't tell. If it's aluminum, a little black paint is nothing a bit of brake fluid wouldn't remove if I change my mind ;-)

 

Your Ulrich wheels appear to me to be the non-chromed diecast aluminum versions. I don't see a problem with painting them and removing the paint at a later date if you needed to.

 

 

A single Ulrich stocker rim that you could part with?

 

I checked and I only have pairs that I'm going to hang on to.

 

Rick

 


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Posted 30 May 2014 - 08:08 PM

Hi Marcus,

 

I have a few of those interiors that I made a while ago if you get really stuck. Let me know and I'll try and find them. 

 

Hey Rick,

 

I too made one of those Gurney chassis in brass, a great challenge.  A friend loaned me one to copy. While I was doing it all I could think of was who the heck thought this thing up? What kind of coffee were they drinking?? That drop arm connection - tube cut, flattened out , wrapped around the post was.....different.....  

 

I also had a friend (a retired fitter and turner at a local sugar mill) machine up some front wheels. They would have to be the most impossible slot car part ever in the Galaxie to find, but a Gurney isn't a Gurney without them.

 

I think someone made a few copies of these chassis several years back and also had them plated. They are recognizable as they don't have the two little notches on the bottom edge of the endbell bracket. Who knows if they were sold as originals.....

 

Your chassis looks beautiful,

 

Col.

 

 

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Posted 31 May 2014 - 09:54 AM

Hi Colin,

 

Your Gurney looks great. What is it about those things that make us just "gota have one!" :D


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