Jump to content




Photo

Making a Cox Gurney stocker


  • Please log in to reply
287 replies to this topic

#76 SlotStox#53

SlotStox#53

    Posting Leader

  • Full Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 4,084 posts
  • Joined: 13-March 13
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:TX

Posted 31 May 2014 - 10:32 AM

Rick I have no idea , but after seeing your recreation and this mint original I've gots to have one too :laugh2: :D

Anyone have a bunch of close up shots/drawings of the chassis so I can cobble one together? Original is way out of the price range !




#77 Bill from NH

Bill from NH

    Age scrubs away speed!

  • Full Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 14,315 posts
  • Joined: 02-August 07
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:New Boston, NH

Posted 31 May 2014 - 12:26 PM

Paul, I'm no Cox lover, but you'll be hard pressed to find any better photos of this chassis than Rick's on the first two pages of this thread.. :)  Just don't try making this out of SS tubing. :laugh2:  :laugh2:


Bill Fernald
 
I intend to live forever!  So far, so good.  :laugh2:  :laugh2: 

#78 SlotStox#53

SlotStox#53

    Posting Leader

  • Full Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 4,084 posts
  • Joined: 13-March 13
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:TX

Posted 31 May 2014 - 01:36 PM

This is true Bill :) plus that's a definite No on S'S tubing :shok: that stuff is evil :laugh2:

Have to get a Galaxy kit for dimensions....

#79 markus

markus

    Backmarker

  • Full Member
  • PipPip
  • 51 posts
  • Joined: 28-January 14
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Stuttgart, Germany

Posted 31 May 2014 - 04:07 PM

Since the above piece was given to me to help with my project I would be happy to give it to you if it would help your project.

Hi Rick,

Wow, that's awesome! But can I give you something for it after all? Or maybe a trade? How about an NOS 36D Cox motor?

 

And if one of those Ulrich sete were to inadvertently open itself (I hate ripping into vinatge packaging), please also let me know!


Markus Ward

#80 markus

markus

    Backmarker

  • Full Member
  • PipPip
  • 51 posts
  • Joined: 28-January 14
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Stuttgart, Germany

Posted 31 May 2014 - 04:17 PM

I have a few of those interiors that I made a while ago if you get really stuck. Let me know and I'll try and find them.

 

Thanks! Let me start with Rick's and then see If I need a second one. I can't afford a second chassis right now (not without paying a divorce lawyer too ;-), but I would love to make two bodies for the one I have, the 65 and 66.

 

You guys are making me nervous about all the reproduction Chassis in circulation. I mean the handwork/effort is the same (RIck's is probably better!), and I wan't to try making one too eventually (that will surely be humbling), but I still hope mine is original. Does anyone have a photo of the repro endbell bracket? Maybe I don't wanna know.


Markus Ward

#81 markus

markus

    Backmarker

  • Full Member
  • PipPip
  • 51 posts
  • Joined: 28-January 14
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Stuttgart, Germany

Posted 31 May 2014 - 04:20 PM



 

Gurneychassis.jpg

Awesome job by the way Collin! Are you going to have it nickel plated? Hear there are DIY kits for destroying the Tupperware via Nickel plating, has anyone ever tried?


Markus Ward

#82 don.siegel

don.siegel

    Grand Champion Poster

  • Subscriber
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 5,757 posts
  • Joined: 17-February 06
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Paris, France

Posted 31 May 2014 - 04:57 PM

Just to answer a question asked above, the guy in Canada who was doing the repros did label them very clearly as repros, and they very quickly became not so cheap either! They are starting to circulate on ebay... well, maybe have seen one identified as such, so it's worth checking. 

 

He also very nicely consented to do just the body for me, since I already had an original chassis. (which was missing its body mounts - he did a couple of those too, and then I found two originals at Roger's in Chicago - talk about luck!). 

 

I had originally planned to try to recreate the original, but in fact I find the Cox wheels very ugly, and since I had a full set of the Ulrichs, they went on there, and I think the car looks a lot better that way! Too bad Cox didn't do a magnesium version of the originals, like their other hard body cars! 

 

I was also intending to find a repro interior, but since the Canadian guy sent me the original model kit interior with the body, I wound up using that, and kind of like it... I didn't have the right driver either, and had to do major surgery on a Lotus 30/40 driver - ouch! 

 

Don 



#83 SlotStox#53

SlotStox#53

    Posting Leader

  • Full Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 4,084 posts
  • Joined: 13-March 13
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:TX

Posted 31 May 2014 - 05:21 PM

Got any pictures of your Gurney Stocker Don? Will definitely be starting from "scratch" building mine :laugh2: Haven't got any bits at all, although got a Galaxie kit in the watch list :good: Now just a small matter of dimensions, making the chassis, sourcing a motor and whatever wheels are gonna go under the skirt . Nothing to it really :shok: :laugh2:

 

 

Here's the '65 kit with roll cage, re tooled parts, I take it this would be fine for a recreation?

 

FORD.JPG



#84 markus

markus

    Backmarker

  • Full Member
  • PipPip
  • 51 posts
  • Joined: 28-January 14
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Stuttgart, Germany

Posted 31 May 2014 - 05:36 PM

Here's mine, a work in progress. I am doing the 65 version first (also based on an original AMT Lorenzen kit), then building a 66. Two bodies for one chassis ... or who knows, maybe I eventually find another one of these beautiful nickel plated pieces of jewelry?

Attached Images

  • photo(1).JPG
  • IMG_5727_klein.jpg

Markus Ward

#85 markus

markus

    Backmarker

  • Full Member
  • PipPip
  • 51 posts
  • Joined: 28-January 14
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Stuttgart, Germany

Posted 31 May 2014 - 06:10 PM

Side chrome already shaved, wipers removed and waiting on my decals so I can know just how far I can relocate the gas door (seems to have been moved on Gurney's original Galaxies). Note the broken Ulrich wheel, the outer rim is gone.

 

This stuff is addictive! Rick, I think you and this thread are to blame in my case ... ;-)

Attached Images

  • wipers.JPG
  • side.JPG
  • gas_door.JPG

  • strummer likes this
Markus Ward

#86 don.siegel

don.siegel

    Grand Champion Poster

  • Subscriber
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 5,757 posts
  • Joined: 17-February 06
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Paris, France

Posted 31 May 2014 - 06:20 PM

Here's mine; don't seem to have any better pix for now...

Don 

 

CoxGurneyside.jpg

 

CoxGurneytop.jpg

 

CoxGurneychassis.jpg

 

Found a couple later photos with the interior... 

 

CoxGurneyForddriver_zps39032597.jpg

 

CoxGurneyFord_zps925657d5.jpg


  • strummer likes this

#87 markus

markus

    Backmarker

  • Full Member
  • PipPip
  • 51 posts
  • Joined: 28-January 14
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Stuttgart, Germany

Posted 31 May 2014 - 06:45 PM

Nice!!!


Markus Ward

#88 SlotStox#53

SlotStox#53

    Posting Leader

  • Full Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 4,084 posts
  • Joined: 13-March 13
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:TX

Posted 31 May 2014 - 07:10 PM

Very nice progress Markus :good: & Don.... Awesome :D These beasts just look soooo cool , consider me well and truly bitten by the Galaxie Stocker bug :laugh2:



#89 dc-65x

dc-65x

    Grand Champion Poster

  • Subscriber
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 6,822 posts
  • Joined: 14-February 06
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Captain Rick: The only vintage slot car nut in SW Oregon?

Posted 31 May 2014 - 08:11 PM

Great looking cars guys.  :good:   Thanks for showing them here! :)

 

 

..........Note the broken Ulrich wheel, the outer rim is gone............


Markus, that broken wheel would make a great wheel insert for a set screw wheel. Then you'd have the best of both worlds, the looks of a die cast Ulrich stock car wheel and the performance of a precision machined aluminum set screw wheel.

 

An example:

 
CarNumber4-018.jpg

 

The stock parts are on the top and the modified parts are on the bottom row. There's a Russkit Dragster rear wheel, some kind of funky Ulrich O-ring front wheel, a Cox knock-off and a 5-40 set screw.


  • strummer likes this

Rick Thigpen
Check out Steve Okeefe's great web site at its new home here at Slotblog:
The Independent Scratchbuilder
There's much more to come...


#90 Champion 507

Champion 507

    Checkered Flag in Hand

  • Full Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,521 posts
  • Joined: 06-March 09
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:OK

Posted 31 May 2014 - 10:06 PM

I have 2 AMT '65 kits and 4 '66 kits to do some Gurney's too. I have only one 36D Nascar motor in my stock but others are still available NOS out there. I'd probably better pick up one or two to stash away.

 

I have the decal set like what Don has on his car above, but I want to pick up the repro Cox set to do that version, too.

 

Here's what Mr. Gurney's 1965 Ford looked like

 

121.jpg


Doug Azary
"We offer prompt service... no matter how long it takes!"
"We're not happy unless you're not happy"
"You want it when?"

#91 SlotStox#53

SlotStox#53

    Posting Leader

  • Full Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 4,084 posts
  • Joined: 13-March 13
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:TX

Posted 31 May 2014 - 10:37 PM

Sounds like you've got quite a few Stocker repros to get building Doug! Thanks for the picture of the Galaxie in '65 :good:



#92 Champion 507

Champion 507

    Checkered Flag in Hand

  • Full Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,521 posts
  • Joined: 06-March 09
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:OK

Posted 31 May 2014 - 11:53 PM

ford (290x400) (145x200).jpg

 

More pics of 1965 #121 Ford (and other Total Performance Fords) right here:

 

https://images.searc...rney 1965 ford[


Doug Azary
"We offer prompt service... no matter how long it takes!"
"We're not happy unless you're not happy"
"You want it when?"

#93 Champion 507

Champion 507

    Checkered Flag in Hand

  • Full Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,521 posts
  • Joined: 06-March 09
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:OK

Posted 01 June 2014 - 12:40 AM

Way to go Dan................................

 


  • strummer likes this
Doug Azary
"We offer prompt service... no matter how long it takes!"
"We're not happy unless you're not happy"
"You want it when?"

#94 don.siegel

don.siegel

    Grand Champion Poster

  • Subscriber
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 5,757 posts
  • Joined: 17-February 06
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Paris, France

Posted 01 June 2014 - 03:45 AM

Great clip Doug, thanks for that one! 

 

Had no memory at all that Foyt had that accident. 

 

Don 



#95 markus

markus

    Backmarker

  • Full Member
  • PipPip
  • 51 posts
  • Joined: 28-January 14
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Stuttgart, Germany

Posted 01 June 2014 - 05:31 AM

Here's what Mr. Gurney's 1965 Ford looked like

 
Thanks! And here a rare view (at least on the internet) from the driver's side.

 

nascar9-cropped.jpg


Markus Ward

#96 markus

markus

    Backmarker

  • Full Member
  • PipPip
  • 51 posts
  • Joined: 28-January 14
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Stuttgart, Germany

Posted 01 June 2014 - 05:43 AM

Very nice progress Markus :good: & Don.... Awesome :D These beasts just look soooo cool , consider me well and truly bitten by the Galaxie Stocker bug :laugh2:

thanks! Yes this is very contageous! What a cool little model these things are. As a "3 in 1" and "Trophy Series" veteran, building one that actually moves is a new experience to me!


Markus Ward

#97 markus

markus

    Backmarker

  • Full Member
  • PipPip
  • 51 posts
  • Joined: 28-January 14
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Stuttgart, Germany

Posted 01 June 2014 - 05:56 AM

Markus, that broken wheel would make a great wheel insert for a set screw wheel.

 

Awesome! But I don't have access to a lathe (yet). Beautiful work!


Markus Ward

#98 dc-65x

dc-65x

    Grand Champion Poster

  • Subscriber
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 6,822 posts
  • Joined: 14-February 06
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Captain Rick: The only vintage slot car nut in SW Oregon?

Posted 03 June 2014 - 04:26 PM

I had some requests for some basic chassis dimensions. Here are some ball park dimensions:

 

CoxGurneyStockerDimensions0001.jpg


  • Peter Horvath likes this

Rick Thigpen
Check out Steve Okeefe's great web site at its new home here at Slotblog:
The Independent Scratchbuilder
There's much more to come...


#99 SlotStox#53

SlotStox#53

    Posting Leader

  • Full Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 4,084 posts
  • Joined: 13-March 13
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:TX

Posted 03 June 2014 - 06:37 PM

Awesome sauce !!! Thank you very much for the dimensions Rick :D This will come in very handy :good:

#100 Champion 507

Champion 507

    Checkered Flag in Hand

  • Full Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,521 posts
  • Joined: 06-March 09
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:OK

Posted 03 June 2014 - 09:54 PM

Yessir, that really helps. Thanks, Rick! :good:


Doug Azary
"We offer prompt service... no matter how long it takes!"
"We're not happy unless you're not happy"
"You want it when?"





Electric Dreams Online Shop