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#151 Ron Hershman

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Posted 15 May 2012 - 06:43 PM

No problem with that. :)




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Posted 15 May 2012 - 07:00 PM

Going through my junk box looking for wheels, I found these rears, and want to check if they are OK to use.

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Going by the wheel specs, if they have at least one rib, they are OK to use. But these look to be more recent items, and want to check if acceptable or not.
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I thought I had some 'telescopic' style rims, but can't find them at this point.

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Posted 15 May 2012 - 07:42 PM

Parma W-66:
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Proposed Body:

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Different but not that much... :)

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Posted 15 May 2012 - 07:57 PM

Is the image around the "regular" driver in that mold supposed to be:

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Posted 15 May 2012 - 08:42 PM

Just a guess -

um ... Uterus N. Fallopian?

Symbolizing - women are back seat drivers.

Not in the spirit of "balls out"
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Posted 15 May 2012 - 09:14 PM

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This is the transitional design between #5 choit's & deepdish series. It is a little longer than the DD bodies, you know you got to start some where :laugh2:
3" width you say :dash2:
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Posted 15 May 2012 - 09:27 PM

Actually Ray, I would like to see this one in 3" width.
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Not that its any big deal. I have plenty of those bodies already. :)

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Posted 15 May 2012 - 09:40 PM

LOL just split it down the middle Ray LOL

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Posted 15 May 2012 - 09:43 PM

Or just take 1/8" off each side.
:huh: :ph34r:

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Posted 16 May 2012 - 06:22 AM

So judging from the messages I've gotten about this Proxy, there's definitely two schools of thought behind building the cars. One is big power (single 24, 25 and 26) in these light cars...figuring the straights into the bank will be where the race is won. The other is "driveability", with single 27, 28, 29 and maybe a double wind being considered. It should be do-able to get a big wire motor to live (?) with the better Mura endbells and strong single ceramic magnets in play...but it will take a "lot of driver" to manage those amp-suckers without something like a later anglewinder chassis to be able to put all that power to the track. I haven't figured out which way to go yet, and might just build myself a second motor (my first is a Mura #25). To a certain extent, I suppose this will all depend on who the drivers are (?). With the motor thing being pretty wide open thanks to Jairus' good choices with the rules (IMO), people will be juggling chassis, body and motor decisions...and it might not be the fastest car that wins! It's going to be interesting to see what people do with all this lattitude. What I like best about all this is that, even with the motor thing being wide open, it still will not be a matter of spending big bucks to build a potential winner. THAT is cool!

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Posted 16 May 2012 - 07:17 AM

...forgot to ask, if anyone has a couple of "spare" Mura "A" motor endbells for trade, PM me here.

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Posted 16 May 2012 - 07:44 AM

You should really get new glasses as that body IS NOT a Parma W-66 :) :sarcastic_hand:

I would know as I designed and raced the W-66 body back in it's day. :sarcastic_hand:


Yep, you would know. Here is a W-66 body. It is as anyone can read a PSE 70510.
It was sold in the 90's as a flexi wedge body.

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Let's compare. This body was a take off/rip off a W-66 made with even more 90's downforce.
Spirit of the 90's is what it is. I have new glasses and can clearly see this body is a thingie, a 90's thingie. :laugh2:

Ron is right. It is not a W-66. It is an even a worse 90's body.
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Posted 16 May 2012 - 07:50 AM

...the family resemblance is astonishing!

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Posted 16 May 2012 - 08:02 AM

The real question is: what is the width of this original body ??

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All depends on time to do it. It's a good point JW.

The mold you showed of the wedge? isn't the one I was thinking of- you have to go back to the 70's for that one. I'm wondering if that person will step forward ??? :D
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Posted 16 May 2012 - 08:16 AM

- you have to go back to the 70's for that one. I'm wondering if that person will step forward ??? :D


Ray, if no one steps forward . . . I'll go back. :D
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Posted 16 May 2012 - 09:44 AM

...the family resemblance is astonishing!

-john


exactly John. I agree. :good:
.....out of respect for Jairus and his efforts, I won't whine, as I figure he'll make a proper decision on this body.
Either way I wouldn't run it anyway, the Choiti's will smoke it. :)
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Posted 16 May 2012 - 10:51 AM

From previous posts... I am going to assume this motor is legal... are we allowed to install ball bearings?

Also... Brassrodman asked about tire width... any rule here... did not see one.

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Posted 16 May 2012 - 12:04 PM

If it ain't there Ray then it's open to what you want. BB's and what tire width you can get the car to turn with...

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Posted 16 May 2012 - 12:24 PM

Ray ray, read the last sentence in Rule # 17. Rear tire width must be < 3.0"

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Posted 16 May 2012 - 12:26 PM

I think he means each tire.

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Posted 16 May 2012 - 01:11 PM

Oh :laugh2: Sorry Ray, never mind :D

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Posted 16 May 2012 - 02:07 PM

Ball Bearings are okay.
That motor is perfect Ray.
I specified no max or minimum tire diameter or width because that is open.

Thank you Rich, but I am actually not crazy about the body either, as is.
The maker is reading this page and he told me he's seeing about creating some Thingie details to add to the body.
The width of that body is 3 1/8" btw.

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Posted 17 May 2012 - 08:19 AM

... but then Howmet, Zimmerman or Bond most likely won't come up with anything any different either.


Please don't wait on me to change the body rule if need be, I won't be able to participate this time around.
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Posted 17 May 2012 - 08:43 AM

Sorry to hear that Mike. I will remove your name from the list until I hear otherwise.

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Posted 18 May 2012 - 11:21 AM

Heya Jairus,

Been a while since i been here but since the other forum Thingie section kindah died it seems,
i guess i B bugging you guys a bit more here.

You can add me to the list.

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